Estibot Reliable?

[MaguirePhD]

Is estibot a fairly reliable, with a margin of course, indicator of domain value?

I punched a domain in and received the following:

Frequency (MSN) 3670000
Backlinks 0
PageRank
Alexa Rank Not Ranked
Traffic (Visits / Day) N/A


http://EstiBot.com Valuation : USD 2,500

I am assuming that as a parked domain this would be capable of generating traffic, correct?

Secondly, can anyone come up with a figure whereby it would not be economically cost beneficial to purchase a domain based on the valuation.

For example: A domain that estibot states it is worth $200.
My question is should it generate parked revenue? Lastly, I assume that if it is valued at $200, there must be a resale market that would, at a minimum recapture the cost of the domain, assuming it was purchased for reg. fee.

Respectfully,

Doc

 

[Alan Glennon]

Do not make purchasing decisions based on estibot value. Do your own business reconnaissance on one or two domains, gathering information about them from every source you can find, create your own valuation model, execute your business plan, and then make an evaluation.

 

[Jeff]

:wave:

My answer to you, Doc, is as follows ... Estibot is one tool in your arsenal, IMHO. It's a good system, but it should not be relied up solely ... rather, it should complement your other research (one being the #1 Namepros Appraisals Forum™ for Wholesale "Quick Sale" range/pricing) and such as monitoring your domain's actual traffic / stats - and should not delay you from seeking marketings and sales at the End user level and your website developments, as well! :gl: :talk: :imho:

Just my two sense.
-Jeff

 

[owntype]

create your own valuation model

Ditto.

Valuation for domain name only : USD 50, and I sold this one for $4000 last month.

http://EstiBot.com Valuation : USD 22,000, and I won this name from an auction for $84

 

[MaguirePhD]

Jagusa:

I use precisely that type of modeling in my real business; however, I am just looking for the quick barometer here.

Jeff:



I am only looking to park these domains not develop them at all, so is esitibot's evauation marginally sufficient in that regard?

I would not be developing any of them ever.

Doc

 

[Traveler]

According to that estibot appraisal, the name in question does not get any search traffic. That makes me think it won't get any type in traffic either.

 

[Jeff]

Jeff:
I am only looking to park these domains not develop them at all, so is esitibot's evauation marginally sufficient in that regard?

I would not be developing any of them ever.

Doc

Development potential - near term or more long-term - and potential sales to End users now or in the future are integral parts of my Lean and Mean by 2009™ personal registration / acquisition criteria, so I do not know the answer to your specifc question. :red:
If Estibot can accurately provide potential or probable traffic / parking revenue figures in advance of registering the domain name(s), obviously that could be a big PLUS for your consideration! :gl: :imho:

Best of Luck.
-Jeff

 

[MaguirePhD]

Owntype:


Estibot did a valuation of 50 USD and you sold for $4,000?

Excellent.

I am ony evaluating domains bought at reg. fee. I will not develop them and will only park them, so I think estibots evaluatons will be okay with what I am doing.

They evaluated a reg. fee domain at $2,500. No, whether that is accurate or off by $2,000, I can always recapture the cost of the domain.

My root question is: Should a domain evaluated by estibot at $300, $400 or $500 produce parking revenue, as that is all I want them for?

Doc

 

[Alan Glennon]

Here is some estibot data for you. Parked, these three domains make between $1 and $3 per month.

Frequency (Google) 253000000
in Anchor Text 8030000
in Title 2370000
in URL 22300000
Backlinks 0
PageRank 0
Alexa Rank Not Ranked
Traffic (Visits / Day) N/A
PPC Ads # 2
Max PPC Bid $1.04
MAX PPC Income/day $6.93
Overture/mo 8717
Wordtracker/day 857
http://EstiBot.com Valuation : USD 2,200

Frequency (MSN) 343
Backlinks 34
PageRank 0
Alexa Rank Not Ranked
Traffic (Visits / Day) N/A
http://EstiBot.com Valuation : USD 50

Frequency (Google) 242000000
in Anchor Text 1400000
in Title 1600000
in URL 4370000
Backlinks 0
PageRank 0
Alexa Rank Not Ranked
Traffic (Visits / Day) N/A
PPC Ads # 0
Max PPC Bid $4.16
MAX PPC Income/day $20.8
Overture/mo 6300
Wordtracker/day 143
http://EstiBot.com Valuation : USD 1,800

 

[MaguirePhD]

Now that gives me cause to think about.
Is the traffic stats they key?

Because $1-3$ a month will not do.

Doc

Domain: newyorkbank.com
Keywords (User-Defined) new york bank
Frequency (MSN) 118000
Backlinks 0
PageRank
Alexa Rank Not Ranked
Traffic (Visits / Day) N/A


http://EstiBot.com Valuation : USD 360

New York Bank shows no traffic and worth ony $360

 

[Traveler]

1-3 a month would pay for renewals and generate a profit. I would take as many names as I could that had the ability to do that.

 

[MaguirePhD]

neobodhi:

If the domain shows no traffic stats and what is estibot using to determine a value of $2,500.

Can it be key words? Do thye matter for something>

Everything I read talks about keywords.

Doc

 

[Domagon]

First, ditto on what others have said...

Estibot considers variables, such as keyword counts, Overture score, Alexa ranking, etc that have little to sometimes even nothing to do with the actual amount of real (as opposed to artificial, such as bots) traffic a domain may get.

You mention seeking domains for parking monetization ... you may first want to read up on pending litigation against some major parking companies...

Class Action TM and Anti Cybersquatting against Google, Sedo, IREIT and more
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=457607

Regardless of how that litigation plays out, parking payouts are under pressure due to numerous reasons - among the top ones being that many advertisers, such as those using google adwords, are excluding parking pages from their ad campaigns.

If you are planning to spend a lot of money buying traffic domains, you should make contacts with folks who own such domains, and learn the ins and outs of the business - and be prepared to spend big, as in 5-figures minimum for even moderate traffic domains.

Ron

 

[MaguirePhD]

Domagon:

I will take your adice and do some reading. I was just looking for the quick fix.

Neobodhi:

I understand the math of a $10 domain renewal from a site that can generate $1.50 a month is a 50% annual return.

When I type a key word into google it brings up 4,123,000,000 pages.

Woud that count for anything?

Doc

 

[Traveler]

When I type a key word into google it brings up 4,123,000,000 pages.

Woud that count for anything?

Doc

It means the word is extremely common, but outside of that I can't read much into the number.

 

[weblord]

I think they have improved with new functionality but still consider it as one of your tools and guide not the concluding factor.

 

[Archangel]

I like estibot for research but I wouldn't base my entire decisions on it.

If you are trying to get traffic domains and all, you should research the keyword/key phrase with a tool like the one Google Adwords uses (or is it Adsense? I get them mixed up). I think that's the "quickest fix" you can get.

Oh, remember to use double quotes (These: " ) around a search term in Yahoo/Google. If you search for "fast computers" you'll get results that use the exact term. If you search for fast computers alone, you'll get results for both keywords.

 

[MaguirePhD]

Archangel:

Thanks for your response.
When you say double quotes are you talking ""money"" or "money" ???

 

[randomo]

On its site, Estibot says, "Do not make a purchase or sale decision based on this appraisal". I would agree, though I do use it as one tool to help me assess domains.

I was just bidding on a domain at eBay - Estibot valued it at $490, and it sold for <$5. (Not to me, as I forgot to be online for the last-minute sniping.)

Incidentally, I recommend paying a little money to become an Estibot member. Nice bulk appraisals, and many other tools I haven't even gotten around to trying yet!

 

[metronome]

according to my experience after using estibot for quite somewhile, there is no clear connection between the level of price at estibot and the level of traffic when you park the domain name.

so, how do u use estibot?
well........
if estibot say your domain name is crap, then it is really crap, since ones that's apraised at 10,000 USD can turn into 85 USD:P
or
if you have A.com and you wonder if you want to buy B.com, let's say A.com is apraised by estibot for 1000 USD and B.com is apraised at 100 USD, it is quite obvious that estibot thinks that your A.com is 10 times better than B.com

but will the 10,000 USD get good traffic?
nah......not always.

I have this domain name:
Frequency (Google) 478000
in Anchor Text 22000
in Title 20000
in URL 3660
Backlinks 0
PageRank
Alexa Rank Not Ranked
Traffic (Visits / Day) N/A
PPC Ads # 0
Max PPC Bid $0.05
Overture/mo 2994
Wordtracker/day 207


http://EstiBot.com Valuation : USD 14,000

how much traffic it gets? 2-4 visits per day.....
revenue? 2 USD permonth at most, mostly 0.75 - 1.25 USD per month, if I see 2 USD, it will be 3-4 times per year, may be haha.

while I saw some domain names with no google frequency, at most 20 msn frequency, 0 backlink, 0 ovt, 0 wordtracker, 0 pr, regfee estibot aprraisal value, generates 20 - 30 visits per day with at least 4 USD per month revenue lolz~~

EDIT:
after a lot of thinking, there might be NO correlation between price and traffic the domain name get.

it is not like price = (estibot value)* traffic
it is not like price = traffic revenue * 3 months/12months/40 months, etc

I saw some guy can sell domain name with no traffic at all or a little traffic for high price, like the LLLL.com and so on.