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Derek Peterson

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All this BS about making the checks more stringent on transfers away are completely misguided. They should be done at the front end not at the backend. IMHO.
They know their servers are still wide open and now everyone else knows as well. They're probably just trying to protect from having domains stolen.
 

HotKey

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Absolute proof of the biased mods here. Most of your posts are recycled trash that you've spewed ad nauseum. But I've made posts that go against you and the other creatures of habit in this thread and I get deleted because I'm not nice. Oh well. I'm glad I'm capable of an original thought at least. Let's see how long it takes the mods to delete this when you go crying to them
Completely agree on the recycled trash in this thread. Really the only thing I've gleaned is the hatred towards Rob Monster from users like @Derek Peterson , @Molly White and @bmugford based on.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hacks will be hacks there is never anything good that comes from them other than proof that there are losers with nothing better to do than, umm.. break and enter?

Most of the BS posted in this thread has nothing to do with a registrar hack, but a hatred towards a person and their beliefs. Even the person who wrote of the Wikipedia article for Epik even goes by the pseudonym "gorilla warfare", I mean how professional is that as a representative for the world's online encyclopedia?

These people have some sort of personal agendas, which I think shouldn't be totally discredited, but we all should be mindful of.

Epik was hacked, they won't be losing my business because of it just as any other company would. @Rob Monster has been an integral part of our domaining community for a long time, and I'm sure that I and countless others won't lose sight of that but rather support him and his company through this. The people that gave away our personal information were the one's in the wrong. Point blank.

The majority often doesn't have the time to commit to disproving online falsehoods, but rest assured, we are here and watching. I do appreciate the inputs by the likes of @Future Sensors that seem to be unbiased and geared towards the greater good in a security sense.
 

Derek Peterson

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Completely agree on the recycled trash in this thread. Really the only thing I've gleaned is the hatred towards Rob Monster from users like @Derek Peterson , @Molly White and @bmugford based on.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hacks will be hacks there is never anything good that comes from them other than proof that there are losers with nothing better to do than, umm.. break and enter?

Most of the BS posted in this thread has nothing to do with a registrar hack, but a hatred towards a person and their beliefs. Even the person who wrote of the Wikipedia article for Epik even goes by the pseudonym "gorilla warfare", I mean how professional is that as a representative for the world's online encyclopedia?

These people have some sort of personal agendas, which I think shouldn't be totally discredited, but we all should be mindful of.

Epik was hacked, they won't be losing my business because of it just as any other company would. @Rob Monster has been an integral part of our domaining community for a long time, and I'm sure that I and countless others won't lose sight of that but rather support him and his company through this. The people that gave away our personal information were the one's in the wrong. Point blank.

The majority often doesn't have the time to commit to disproving online falsehoods, but rest assured, we are here and watching. I do appreciate the inputs by the likes of @Future Sensors that seem to be unbiased and geared towards the greater good in a security sense.

You are missing the point of the entire thread. I have never said hacks are good and I am certainly not a fan of the "hackers" but the issue at hand, HERE, is that Rob Monster LIED about his products and services. He claimed to have his own VPN, when in fact he was reselling another service, he claimed to be swiss bank of domain names when in fact he had not only never seen the code or had it reviewed he didn't even have access to it and his elite security team was storing full credit card details, un and weakly encrypted passwords, api login creds in code, etc etc. It is his dishonesty and deceit that allowed a hack of this magnitude to occur.

Nice try to deflect.
 
Completely agree on the recycled trash in this thread. Really the only thing I've gleaned is the hatred towards Rob Monster from users like @Derek Peterson , @Molly White and @bmugford based on.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The good thing is that facts don't care about bias.

Those facts are that "shitty Russian code" that was more than a decade old and terrible security protocols in general by Epik, lead to the breach that effected thousands of customers and the data of millions of total people.

Bias is irrelevant to those facts.

Brad
 
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Derek Peterson

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The good thing is that facts don't care about bias.

Those facts are that "shitty Russian code" that was more than a decade old and terrible security protocols in general, lead to the breach that effected thousands of customers and the data of millions of total people.

Bias is irrelevant to those facts.

Brad

It wasn't just incompetence tho, Monster LIED about his security and products. That is the real issue for me. And then when exposed by people for his lies, he tries to censor, defame and even threaten.
 

DN Playbook

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Hacks will be hacks there is never anything good that comes from them other than proof that there are losers with nothing better to do than, umm.. break and enter?
Wow. Lots to unpack in your post. But lets start here. Not all hacks are the same. I am against hacking. However, in this case Epik was warned about their security hole back in February and did nothing. @Rob Monster continued in his narrative about and support of far-right extremist websites. His views are well documented here and elsewhere, I don't want to regurgitate them as it gives me nausea. This is dragging his customers and staff down with him. Not to mention he calls his staff whores, unless they pay their allegiance to Epik. I am not surprised that members of Anonymous targeted Epik because of Rob.

BTW, I am Canadian as well. I hope you don't want to go down this rabbit hole further.
 
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Derek Peterson

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Epik is a launching a new browser that will store all your login creds in one place. What could possibly go wrong.
 

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Windoms

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Completely agree on the recycled trash in this thread. Really the only thing I've gleaned is the hatred towards Rob Monster from users like @Derek Peterson , @Molly White and @bmugford based on.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The fact that he was riding the dragon wielding a big shotgun shooting at industry stakeholders, claiming to be the fundamental most innovative and secure registrar in the world.

While lying.

With a $5.99 .com transfer candy bag.

Is not likeable.

Plus, they leaked the data.

(Because of nazi KKK friendship.)
(And leaving most secure doors wide open.)
 

Derek Peterson

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DirkS

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(I had to log out of Twitter because Mr Freeze Peach has me banned.)

Rob also mentioned valido will replace current federated identity. This was mentioned in the 3 hour long chat. From @Molly White 's transcript:

One good news is that the single sign-on, and you guys would have figured it out by now, we have a single sign-on product called Federated Identity. That product is going to be rebranded soon, it’ll be called Valido.com…
 

DirkS

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Well they've lost me as a customer, even before my experiment with SAV is over. BTW SAV won another domain today. SAV have won 3 out of 4 so far. So the trend is clear. So there are two domains left on my trial @DirkS, which drop in the next drop.

I don't have a problem with them asking for my PIN number, which is designed for this purpose. But I have a big problem asking for my email of my account, written in an email from that same email account which I correspond with them almost daily. That is too much to bear, writing that almost every day. It's not supports fault. They are just follow orders. They've gone from requesting expedited transfer, to requesting my PIN number (which I have no problem with) to requesting my PIN number AND my email address written down in the same email I'm sending to them. Just to expedite a transfer. Which used to take minutes, but now takes days (along with the 2 days they've added to the transfer process). They could just look at the email address and compare that with the email address on file instead of asking me to write the same email address down in the email address I'm writing from. And then just ask me if it doesn't match the email on file. It's probably less work for them.

Agreed. More importantly though, you seem to have found an alternative that works nicely for your intended use :)
 

DN Playbook

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Derek Peterson

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Rob also mentioned valido will replace current federated identity. This was mentioned in the 3 hour long chat. From @Molly White 's transcript:

Federated ID run by Epik/Rob Monster is a scary thought. I can't imagine anyone trusting Epic or Rob Monster with anything ever again. I can hear the "hackers", now we can get access to all sites these notsees use, not just the ones hosted by Epik.
 

HotKey

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BTW, I am Canadian as well. I hope you don't want to go down this rabbit hole further.
Not particularly. I grew disgusted with the thread pages ago and disappointed at the path some of you have chosen. Revealing of the innards too, some really just embrace hate.

You guys keep on your path of self-destruction, but just know the company you keep becomes you.
 

Derek Peterson

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Not particularly. I grew disgusted with the thread pages ago and disappointed at the path some of you have chosen. Revealing of the innards too, some really just embrace hate.

You guys keep on your path of self-destruction, but just know the company you keep becomes you.

Be great if you could speak the facts that have been presented instead of very odd monsteresque gaslighting.

Let me give you a few examples to start with:
1) Monster said he made his own VPN. He lied.
2) Monster said that Epik was swiss bank of registrars. He lied. He didn't even have access to the code.
3) Monster tried to censor and threatened anyone who expressed these facts.

You should be careful of the company you keep.
 

Windoms

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Not particularly. I grew disgusted with the thread pages ago and disappointed at the path some of you have chosen. Revealing of the innards too, some really just embrace hate.

You guys keep on your path of self-destruction, but just know the company you keep becomes you.
Thats wise talk but I dont think people are into it like into hate.
When you do bad things, you have to be brought to account.
That's why you see people manifesting themselves. It's actually very healthy to be against criminals.
 

DN Playbook

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Not particularly. I grew disgusted with the thread pages ago and disappointed at the path some of you have chosen. Revealing of the innards too, some really just embrace hate.

You guys keep on your path of self-destruction, but just know the company you keep becomes you.
Your charge of hate is misdirected. And your disgust is misplaced. Please read my original reply to your second to last post again. Unless you can address the points raised and counter them, what is the point of using adjectives that carry little weight. That's gaslighting. You are following Rob's playbook.
 
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Molly White

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Even the person who wrote of the Wikipedia article for Epik even goes by the pseudonym "gorilla warfare", I mean how professional is that as a representative for the world's online encyclopedia?
I am not some sort of official representative for Wikipedia, I am a volunteer like all other editors. I fail to see how the nickname is less professional than any other pseudonym, such as "HotKey".

Anyway, the SPLC published two reports based on the Epik data today:
I wondered why Epik.com's Twitter account suddenly returned to activity today after another lull.
 

Derek Peterson

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The irony of all this drama is that the antifa woke hacker types are the exact same sort of people as Rob Monster. They are both committing crimes with no concern for others and they both just want fame, money and to force their ideas and themselves on others and they have no problem using intimidation or threats or censorship against anyone who stands in their way.
 

DN Playbook

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Most of the BS posted in this thread has nothing to do with a registrar hack, but a hatred towards a person and their beliefs. Even the person who wrote of the Wikipedia article for Epik even goes by the pseudonym "gorilla warfare", I mean how professional is that as a representative for the world's online encyclopedia?
C'mon, come up with real arguments. Not just attacks. If you have read something you feel that is not substantiated then simply ask for supporting evidence, source, proof, etc. Either the person will provide such or retract the statement in question.
 

HotKey

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C'mon, come up with real arguments. Not just attacks. If you have read something you feel that is not substantiated then simply ask for supporting evidence, source, proof, etc. Either the person will provide such or retract the statement in question.
It doesn't matter DN Playbook. You know as well as I do with these people there is no aha! moment, there is no end to these arguments, attacks whatever you call them because circularity is what they thrive on.

There is a difference between disparagement and objectivity, I only expect the latter when I use a source like Wikipedia. Perhaps that bar should be lowered. Which ties in to; you can literally look at the post above yours that I just quoted, and it is all there in one nicely packed little post.

Nothing else has to be be said, lol. If you or others really need "arguments" presented to see what's clearly in front of you, you're looking to the wrong dude.
 
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DN Playbook

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It doesn't matter DN Playbook. You know as well as I do with these people there is no aha! moment, there is no end to these arguments, attacks whatever you call them because circularity is what they thrive on.
You have to pick which posts to challenge. Sure, some contain subjective commentary. Others are more compelling. If you disagree, then counter with a factual argument rather than more commentary. I've asked for source support to statements and the response is generally satisfactory. Circular argumentation is the result of commentary. Facts speak for themselves to reasonable people. It is hard to argue facts. Having said that, it is IMHO and I am not telling you what to do. Take it as you will.
 
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Pick a side folks. Like the Adam Dicker saga. What a 🤪 business
Even the drug trade there is accountability.
Any updates on the whores you were referring to earlier in this thread Peterson? That was kinda sick.
Surprised there are still ladies present.
I dont like how Rob runs and hides after making this “ platform” his podium
Hotkey you would see a bit more of compassion, actually he seems to have vanished. You would see more compassion if Rob took some accountability and help guide us through this. Sorry you picked wrong side 😔
 

Derek Peterson

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It doesn't matter DN Playbook. You know as well as I do with these people there is no aha! moment, there is no end to these arguments, attacks whatever you call them because circularity is what they thrive on.

There is a difference between disparagement and objectivity, I only expect the latter when I use a source like Wikipedia. Perhaps that bar should be lowered. Which ties in to; you can literally look at the post above yours that I just quoted, and it is all there in one nicely packed little post.

Nothing else has to be be said, lol. If you or others really need "arguments" presented to see what's clearly in front of you, you're looking to the wrong dude.

You still haven't commented a single point regarding the lies and fraud that have come from Epik and Rob Monster and you have not made a single point. You are just complaining about people telling the truth, based on actual facts, about Epik and Rob Monster.

Are you afraid to lie about known facts because of legal ramifications and simply trying to cover up for Monster/yourself?
 
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