Dot Coms Only

[Orbital]

I was curious why there is so much talk on here of .us, .cc, .info, etc.

Just from personal experience, registering anything besides a .com is a waste of money unless it's a rare 2 or possible 3 (letter) character domain, and even then should preferrably be a .net, or .org.

Obviously dictionary terms and brandable words ending in .us, or whatever may be sellable, but are they developable? Would you build a costly website project on it? Probably not, why would you?

Also, buying and owning 100's of domains can be a serious waste of money from an investment standpoint. From experience learning from some of the greatest domain speculators who own thousands of domains and drop 100's a year, you should be extra careful what you register. You can be nearly certain that you will be disappointed and will drop a lot of those non .com domains, as professional domain speculators drop 100's of fairly good .com's per year because they aren't developable.

Some rules you should follow are:

Dot Coms Only

No dashes, numbers or variations (name-pros.com or go2hawaii.com)

avoid typos as tempting as they are for redirects (britnayspears.com)

focus on domains related to your trade/job/expertise

avoid long domains, too many syllables, and phrases (todayisawonderfulday.com)

avoid spelling errors, mixed words, or hard to spell words (transcendingood.com)

Attempt to coin (google.com) marketable dot coms words or word combos

If you find a great dot com that you want to develop, consider snapping up the .net and .org version not for development, but for protection.

In closing, register domains that you can visualize a profitable/brandable business model around. A website will lose credibilty as a business if its not a dot com. If everyone is shopping at amazon.com, ebay.com, walmart.com, and you come out with electronicstore .cc, .info, .biz, etc., you likely aren't going to get much business. People are already afraid of identity theft on the web. They want trusted sites.

And say you do develop a lucrative advertising campaign, you will likely push most of your traffic over time to the dot com version.

So you're only other option is an informative site (books.info) which generally is also very unprofitable.

If you disagree, that's fine, but please at least try to support your rationale or give some kind of example as to why you feel differently.

 

[mole]

Also, this is not the first inning. This is the internet business. Where everyone wants to sell you a .us, .biz, .cc, .info, but there isn't 1, not even 1 major internet focused corporation that uses these extensions.

I agree, you wouldn't call http://www.billboard.biz or http://www.gamesindustry.biz a "major internet focused" corporation.

There are many reasons why people are adopting new extensions like http://www.alberteinstein.info , parasiting on dodo .COM mentality ain't one of them.

However, I agree with all you said. I am into the market serious for .COM, can you sell me a few one word high traffic generics for $200 each? Thanks.

Yours truely,
Blindly in love with .COM

 

[snoop]

billboard.biz redirects to the .com

 

[-db-]

But in general, you have to admit, only dot coms are worth registering.

No. Why would anybody "admit" to something that is completely false?

That statement (along with some others you made) shows a lack of knowledge regarding the domain industry, the business world, web development, and the Internet in general. No offense, but "ignorance" is the only word that comes to mind to describe it. Perhaps you have been trapped in a cave for the last couple years with no Internet access? In that case, welcome back online. A lot happened while you were away.

My gut instinct tells me you only started this thread to troll and get a reaction from people. Your attitude is not one of open minded discussion. Anyway, I could be wrong. You may just lack the social graces of civilized communication, after being trapped in that cave, away from other people for so long.

Either way, welcome to NamePros, and welcome back to civilization.

NamePros.com - "Everybody is welcome here, even cavemen."

 

[DJ-Sound]

When I registered domains just to sell them, 80% were only .us domains. Why? cause there super easy to find a competitve market with a .us availabe. Also at the afternic bazaar they sell super easy. However for my own future development domain portofilo I like to keep mostly all .coms but I do have many .us domains and .infos (that were free at the time of regsitering) for future projects. I think .nets .us .org and a few others are fine. I just don't like the stupid extensions like .name and people using county extensions for a website not geared towards that country.
Thats my opinion...

 

[mole]

billboard.biz redirects to the .com

It says BILLBOARD.BIZ on the landing page? Maybe you have one of those new extension popup blockers? :hehe:

You may just lack the social graces of civilized communication, after being trapped in that cave, away from other people for so long.

Hey be fair, db :lala: Tunnel vision afflicts the best of us. .COM is good, .DE sucks, so long as you don't shout that in the streets of Germany you can get away with anything.

 

[Orbital]

No. Why would anybody "admit" to something that is completely false?

That statement (along with some others you made) shows a lack of knowledge regarding the domain industry, the business world, web development, and the Internet in general. No offense, but "ignorance" is the only word that comes to mind to describe it. Perhaps you have been trapped in a cave for the last couple years with no Internet access? In that case, welcome back online. A lot happened while you were away.

My gut instinct tells me you only started this thread to troll and get a reaction from people. Your attitude is not one of open minded discussion. Anyway, I could be wrong. You may just lack the social graces of civilized communication, after being trapped in that cave, away from other people for so long.

Either way, welcome to NamePros, and welcome back to civilization.

NamePros.com - "Everybody is welcome here, even cavemen."

I really enjoyed that. Seems like you stir in your emotions on this issue, that's good. Considering you're avatar says "powered by .US", I can only assume you are passionate and very enthusiastic about domain speculation.

But regarding the business world, if you are familiar with it, it's very cut throat and blunt, but not in that way. If someone has an idea you don't like, you can't attack them, you'll lose credibility as a businessman or get fired. You have to attack their idea, dismantling it. Think of this as a roundtable business meeting discussion.

I'm leading a presentation and listing points and reasons, releasing my personal standards for an excellent domain which most people don't share. Others say they agree with this but not that. Others say they like this, but this may be better. It's a natural discussion debating a very common and shared belief by professional investors and business developers. I'll leave thinking a little different about some things, and others will too.

If this was a trolling post, others wouldn't be responding that they agree with parts of it. See how I completely dismantled your argument without calling you names and even complimenting your passion or enthusiasm. That's how it's done my friend. :D

 

[mole]

If someone has an idea you don't like, you can't attack them, you'll lose credibility as a businessman or get fired. You have to attack their idea, dismantling it.

What about rearranging it? It's like saying the world has no place for any other meat than steak. :cy:

 

[Orbital]

What about rearranging it? It's like saying the world has no place for any other meat than steak. :cy:

That's the thing about marketing campaigns. Imagine what kind of reverse programming would have to be done to get people in general to look at steak and lobster like ground beef. Or to look at diamonds like they are glass. Or to look at gold like it's aluminum foil.

It's all perception and herd mentality. Obviously there is value in .us, .biz, .pro, .whatever. Especially to the professional speculator.

I've met a lot of people who own stocks that don't go up. And they always ask, why. I've met short sellers who also ask, why does this stock keep going up. They don't realize that they don't make the market, the market makes the market.

There is obviously room for other players in the game. But you are going to have to run a serious marketing campaign to change the perspective of the domain speculation market and web developers and business owners in general.

It will be like turning gold into aluminum foil, and then aluminum foil into gold.

 

[-db-]

Sorry Orbital, but some of you comments were of the trolling type. I've been around the web long enough to recognize it. Some of your comments were also completely false. Whether those were intentional (to get a rise from people), or just the lack of your own knowledge and experience on the subject, I'm not sure. But false is false. I'm quite sure of that.

Since your initial post(s), you have become more realistic (even friendly) with your comments, and I give you credit for that. In fact, instead of saying that you have backed off from your earlier claims, or done a political type flip-flop, I'm going to instead say.... Congratulations for seeing the error of your ways, and correcting some of your previous mistaken statements. You have grown, and show great potential.

That's a compliment.

 

[mole]

But you are going to have to run a serious marketing campaign to change the perspective of the domain speculation market and web developers and business owners in general.
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.BIZ doesn't need Sunday parades down main street, it would rather be adopted on the side by B2B SMEs who know better than to spend exorbitant money just to get the same name on .COM.

Some people like the unique difference .BIZ makes to their web address, setting them apart from the riff raff of common space.

 

[floatingworld]

Orbital's case is over-stated. eg with domain name 'love', .com may be best for exchange value, but there is value in .net, .info, .biz and most importantly the ccTLDs. If you are a domain reseller focussing exclusively on major corporations then yes they will focus on .com, but they would also be interested in the ccTLD, eg banks need to have a national identity. Also, major corporations are not the only story.....

 

[mole]

Also, major corporations are not the only story.....

That's a good reminder, wara. SMEs have been exploiting the WWW for ages, they easily from 90% plus of all company web-sites out there.

 

[Jeffrey]

The argument here is .US, .INFO, .IN, .BIZ, .SC, .DE, .CC, .WS, .ORG, .NET, etc are practically good only in domain reselling.

While .COM is both good in domain reselling and developement/business e-commerce.

 

[mole]

Strange argument I must admit :music:

 

[calian]

robertjr's point about whois.sc was good. The presence of the new TLDs is coming to be more accepted. I am reminded of the .fm site of a major radio station I used to listen to. However, their subtagline after stating the address was "online, but not a .com" No matter what happens we will continue to live under the shadow of .com