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Labeled as .ca in ccTLD Discussion started by whitebark, Jul 7, 2008.

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  1. DomainRecap

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    I know, but I'm a loser with no time.
     
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  2. DomainRecap

    DomainRecap Top Member VIP

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    A bit late, but the TBR Results & Leftovers have been served:

    Lots of Single-Words Left!
     
  3. Soofi

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    I picked up BKU some 10-12 hours ago. Thank you :)
     
  4. rlm

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    Just to be clear here, when maple says "one word generic" it is a bit misleading. What is 100% accurate is that the domains that get the most traffic are the ones that are confusingly similar to popular brands.

    Specifically:

    1. Typos of popular websites. These can generally be legit or not legit and even some gray area between which is open to interpretation. Example: Gogle.com isn't a real word and Google probably won that in a domain dispute. Whereas Goggle.com is a legit dictionary word and can be safely used and owned providing that you don't use the domain name in a trademark infringing way. Obviously finding easy-to-make typos of large websites that are simultaneously a legit dictionary word is a lucky find. You get free spillover traffic. It's like buying real estate next to another successful busy store, you benefit from free increased foot traffic walking by.

    2. Purposely misspelled brand names: If you owned Tumbler.com you'd get a lot of traffic from Tumblr.com

    3. One-word domains being confused with established multi-word websites. Example: The owner of tesla.com got a sh*t-ton of traffic until TeslaMotors.com finally bought Tesla.com for $11M... One word domains almost always have some other businesses using the same word but in a multi-word domain name, so one word domains tend to get a little traffic spillover from those sites, which may or may not amount to much, depending on how popular those other websites are themselves.

    4. Acronyms get traffic from the countless businesses with long multi-word names, people guess that businesses were smart enough to shorten their long names to an acronym based domain name. A great example is RBC.ca getting traffic from RBCRoyalBank.com. Works the other way too, where AE.com inadvertently sends traffic to AmericanEagle.com since their brand is actually American Eagle.

    5. Otherwise confusing brands, such as Victoria's Secret and their sister stores Pink which you can find side-by-side in almost any mall. They just choose to sell both stores products on VictoriasSecret.ca rather than running two different online stores for both brands. Clearly they're confusing their customers and both pink.com and pink.ca get a lot of traffic because of it.

    6. One word domains that describe a product or service will also get _some_ traffic, for example, insurance.ca or pizza.ca or laptops.ca or whatever. They don't usually get much traffic though, if they do, its typically only if it is developed and essentially branded itself. Example: hotels.com/hotels.ca. And then of course, Hotel.com/Hotel.ca benefited from hotels.com so much that they were smart enough to buy those too.

    7. Provincial/Govt domains. Like jobs.gc.ca is going to inadvertently drive some traffic to jobs.ca (which I used to own).

    There are probably some other scenarios I'm not thinking of here, but by now you get the gist.

    For the most part, these scenarios have been pretty well picked over for anything of value. There is the rare gem to be had though.

    In the end, the undeveloped domains that do get any significant traffic are almost getting it from confusion with another domain that is branded/promoted on a large scale or is otherwise well established. If your domain isn't infringing on another trademarked brand and you get some free "confusion traffic", it is a nice bonus - although its generally not going to be targeted traffic, but not useless either. Just like in the brick and mortar world, unknown businesses benefit from the foot traffic going to the known businesses nearby.
     
  5. DomainRecap

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    And:

    People typing in the domain to see if it's free to register or for sale, but that's hard to gauge as a type-in metric. There is still that "Gee, I wonder..." crowd and it happens a lot more with words and 2-4 letter acronyms.
     
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  6. rlm

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    Yes, definitely a bit of those hits too.

    And I guess I should mention the hackers and bots too. Incredible amounts of hackers trying to exploit anything they can, ssh, ftp, mail services and of course the website itself. My main server gets hit with thousands of hits per minute of pure bullsh*t. I've gotten to the point that I have a honeypot and temporarily firewall off entire network blocks from non Canadian or US countries.
     
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    Domains are creeping up in number again, looking to move some, anyone looking for domains in a particular niche? I can send a list if interested.
    Dan
     
  8. Soofi

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    I'd be happy to look at one words, product names and LLL.ca's :)
     
  9. esdiel

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    I know you've been here a long time already but are you aware that .CAs have a Canadian presence requirement? Perhaps you do, and do indeed meet the requirement, but I only bring it up because i recently saw a thread where someone from India paid a decent amount of money to buy a couple premium .CAs only to have CIRA take them away when they couldn't prove that they meet the Canadian presence requirement. Anyway, just a heads up in case this is news to you.
     
  10. Soofi

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    Thanks for the heads up. Just because I am currently based out of India doesnt mean I dont do my homework while investing in domain names ;)

    Oh and I went to school in Kamloops, BC. Plus my wife and kids live in Vancouver :)
     
  11. esdiel

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    I figured given your time in the industry but just wanted to make sure!
     
  12. Soofi

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    You are a good man!
     
  13. dtagr

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    Saw CIRA's commercial during the Canucks game last night. I'm surprised to admit that it's growing on me. Maybe it's the big screen or the wobbly pops that changed my mind, not sure.

    Anyway, I have to give credit where credit is due. CIRA is raising the profile of the extension with that TV campaign and they're also all over my Facebook feed.

    Kudos to CIRA.
     
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    Their Facebook ads are quite punny and the guys/girls who run their Facebook page are quite entertaining.
     
  15. cabotower

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    doteasy.com states that they only take credit cards but they invite a call to discuss alternative payment options. anyone know if you can set up paypal with them?
     
  16. MasterOfMyDomains

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    doteasy is netsol little brother
    Any promo’s read the fine print
    Bulk renewal only if you call. Only been able to use cc
    Worst registrar north of 49 for sure
     
  17. esdiel

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    Can't say i've used them before. And apparently you need to buy a domain there as part of their sign up process.

    For those who don't know, they are offering .CA registrations and transfer-ins for only $5 CAD (up to 5 domains), so I'm half tempted to transfer a few domains there... I just can't find anything on their website which speaks to the process for transferring out, which makes me a bit skeptical. I may just wait till black friday/cyber monday comes along before i make any decisions.
     
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    To Be Released (TBR) Weekly .CA Picks for November 20

    Too Tired for Anything Witty
     
  19. cabotower

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    the process to request an auth code seems to be pretty straight forward. it's all there in my domain info. i have one name registered with them and i have some .cas up for renewal and the promos are attractive except the lack of paypal.
     
  20. esdiel

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    Thanks for letting me know! I just read bad things about netsol (when trying to transfer-out), so hopefully they aren't the same. They do indeed have good deals happening there so I think i'll try them out soon.
     
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    i can't speak for others but i have transferred out from netsol with no problems.
     
  22. esdiel

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    Aside from domains "allegedly" being stolen from there, the main complaint I heard about netsol was that it took at least 3 days to get the authorization code, and you had to fill out a form etc in order to do so.
     
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    yes it can take up to 3 days. i prefer something like ionos.ca where the auth code is right there in you acct details.
     
  24. MasterOfMyDomains

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    Read the fine print. For promo you either pay the $15 renewal or $15 to unlock the name. I jumped on their promo. Transfers. They also told me if i transfer out within 60 days of renewal i would lose that year.lie lol
    go try unlock your domain cabotower
    I renewed at $15cad cause is 15usd to unlock and transfer if you didnt renew at regular price. Fine print. Cira should be slapped for allowing them on promotions page
    Edit: had to renew each one individually on cc cause of netsol type support
     
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  25. cabotower

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    it's under 60 day lock. i only regd 'sched.ca' two weeks ago.
     

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