domain DOMAIN SCAMMERs :securenamesale.com

[frank]

An email comes to your address with your domain name in my case :alepage.com

BY this emailer named connelly, [email protected] gives and accepts out of this world price which looks a bit reasonable 4250 Euros for a low xxxx domain and tells to appraise it by his site and spoils the name of other appraisers..

Actual email :

Hello,

Please send the lowest acceptable price for your virtual property (domain name).

Our company develops software for multiple video systems. Domain names is not
our business but a new way to earn on reselling. We are going to buy domains to
resell them at higher prices. Our company has a large database of clients
interested in good domains.

If you offer more domains for sale with good reselling potential please email
us your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Jacob Connelly
CEO
FJS Solutions

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>> THEN THE reply after accepting 4250 Euros.. IN my case i did a appraisal.

Hello Thanks for the reply.
Domain sellers always provide buyers with appraisal certificates. This is a
common practice.

It's hard to believe that someone from GoDaddy will do a research for only
$14. It means their service is automated. I trust manual services only.

I thought about several companies including Afternic.com, but found very
interesting information:

http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a
recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

I also found the following information about them
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630


So Afternic.com is NOT acceptable.

Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
"Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $50-$55 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust
auto-generated appraisals."

The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They
are just collecting money using their well-known names.

I heard many appraisal companies often overpriced domains. So I cannot
accept appraisal from each and every site.

To avoid mistakes I asked about reputable appraisers in a forum. Several
experts recommended me Securenamesale's appraisal service -
http://www.securenamesale.com/appraise.asp as a fast, accurate and
non-expensive manual service.

BE WARE NEW COMERS by these emails.

:kickass:

 

[ToryC103]

I've received that one too. This time, his name is Abram Connelly.

Hello,

Please send the lowest acceptable price for your virtual property (domain name).

Our company develops software for multiple video systems. Domain names is not our business but a new way to earn on reselling. We are going to buy domains to resell them at higher prices. Our company has a large database of clients interested in good domains.

If you offer more domains for sale with good reselling potential please email us your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Abram Connelly
CEO
FJO Solutions

 

[whitebark]

Classic appraisal scam.

 

[YoL]

I've gotten a couple of these too... One even sent me a link to a "forum" thread that wasn't an actual forum... it was hilarious I called him out on his bogus vBulletin forum and told him I would take his original offer of $5k or so and then never heard from him again.

:kickass:

 

[frank]

ANY good appraisal service ?

THIS scammers service :
securenamesale.com THIS service is not Reliable and is not recommended for an appraisal.

IS there any good service besides sedo and other whose domains name actually sold on the appraised value or even nearer to it . I have always heard domains getting appraised for eg : 12000 Euros and cannot even sell for just 1200 euros not even 1 / 10 the price of appraisal. eg. are on tdnam.com and many other sites.. AND many appraised domain which are really worth it sell for half the appraised price.


Has anyone experienced the same ? CAN i have one good .com sale in which the domain is sold on appraised value by a good company ?

 

[TheBulldog]

Just post your name here, and people will be pretty honest about it's value.

Don't bother with the appraisal services, they really don't have any worth.

 

[Domainboy]

Good day domainers...
I received emails with almost a copycat of those emails.
Just this week. I receive an email like this:
(this is already his second message coz i have deleted the first mail.)


Fri, 29 Jun 2007 01:23:22 +0400

Have you heard about recent big sales on the domain market?
Porn.com Sells for $9.5 Million in Cash-
http://seoblackhat.com/2007/05/16/porncom-sells-for-95-million-in-cash

Looks like the market is very hot

Ok. Let's talk about our deal.

Can you accept 3500 USD for all seven domains?

Do you offer a web site or domain name only? I'm mostly interested in names.

Have you had your domains appraised already? Can you show me your valuation certificates? As fas I know it's a common practice to show appraisal of domain name (even without traffic and web site) before doing business.

Without appraisal I risk to overpay. In other words I won't be able to make a profit on reselling this name. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domains.

Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging an appraisal company with REAL manual service. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate auto-generated appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/497586.htm

Just check this posting.

If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value.

After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

How do you prefer to get paid: www.escrow.com, www.PayPal.com check or wire?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.