Domain + Parking = MEGA headache

[domexp]

Hi All,

Sorry for this newbie question, but I'm at a complete loss even after wading through tons of posts. Any insights/comments would be much appreciated.

Are the following observations correct?

1. Types of traffic accepted by Parking services (eg. sedo, parked.com, etc)

a) type-in traffic (visitor typed the url into his/her browser)

b) search engine traffic (visitor found a h clicked to the parked page from another site)


2. Question: does all parking services accept those 2 form of traffic?


3. For a newly registered domains (eg. worldgreatestdogtraining.com) - how in the world does it get 'typed-in' traffic? I mean, for a generic domain such as 'books.com' I can understand ... but for multiple word domains - is there such as thing as 'typed-in' traffic?


4. If typed-in traffic does NOT exist for newly registered domains, then it must only rely on 'search-engine' traffic? And if so, question #2 will come into play again when choosing which parking service to use - right?


Many thanks!
expdom
(... needing aspirin soon! ...)

 

[dbtbandit67]

yeah, i can tell that you are new at this. i reccommend you take things extremely slowly before jumping into anything. have you tried introducing yourself at the welcome center? there will be senior members that will offer their help to you

1. i'm not sure exactly what this question is asking. sedo allows any kind of traffic. i'm not sure why they would accept type-in/search traffic, but not accept traffic from links

2. all parking services accepts any kind of traffic. the only restriction you may come across is the quantity of the traffic, not the type. some parking services may restrict their services to sites getting high traffic

3. any domain that is also a search term has the potential to receive type in traffic

4. type-in traffic could exist for newly registered domains. depends on the situation. so that first statement wouldn't be true

and parking services don't care about the type of traffic as some would care of the quantity of traffic

 

[netmeg]

Actually, that's not true - most parking companies I've dealt with most definitely care about the type of traffic. You can't set up a link network and have them all pointing to your parked page. You can't do arbitrage in most cases. It's important to read the terms of service when you sign up.

That said, most if not all parking companies would accept type in or search engine traffic, if you can get it.

Newly registered domains can get type in traffic, and they can get search engine traffic, but the first is not usually going to be any great shakes, and if you get any search engine traffic at all, it could go away at any time. The search engines aren't crazy about sending people to parked domains. It happens, but it's happening less and less.

Bottom line - with a domain like worldgreatestdogtraining.com, you'll be hard put to make your reg fee back on pure parking. But if you developed it, you might be able to do much better.

 

[domexp]

Thanks for the input guys! So the best way is to ask the parking service provider what type of traffic they accept and then work towards it.

But I'm still puzzled about the typed-in traffic - how would newly registered domain get type-in traffic if it had never existing before?

thanks!
domexp
ps: err ... no, haven't introduced myself yet ... was so excited to find out about this buy and sell domain thing that I just jumped right in

 

[RicoShay]

Welcome to NP domexp.

First of all, I'd advise against buying domains with a view to park and earn. Its extremely difficult to hand-reg domains and get enough traffic/clicks and revenue from parking to even make up the reg-fee.

Type-in traffic comes if the name has high search value. ie. "Free Web Hosting" as a random search in the address bar of firefox/chrome (or other browsers) may lead to FreeWebHosting.com - they are also very good keywords and may rank in search engines (although it may not be for too long - as netmeg mentioned above).

You can't really expect much (if any) type-in traffic on 2-3 + word domains. The shorter they are the more likely they could get type-in. I have random (made up) five letter.com names such as "rolce.com", "eFobs.com" and "skego.com" which get type-in traffic despite being newly reg'd names.

However, getting the same type-in traffic to my newly reg'd keyword / longer names is much harder / non-existent.

As netmeg said, parking companies will allow type-in and search engine traffic... most will not allow any promotion or link-building to a parked page... except for WhyPark.com (which is a paid parking service). Do dig around the terms and cons of the parking sites to understand more... and continue to ask questions here as you have done already - its the best way to learn.

 

[domexp]

Thanks OneTime!

That make sense (type-in traffic) explaination!

As netmeg said, parking companies will allow type-in and search engine traffic... most will not allow any promotion or link-building to a parked page... except for WhyPark.com

This is a puzzle - how on earth would a domain get search engine traffic if one does not do any SEO on it? e.g. submitting domain to directories, article writing, etc?

Does the parking companies expect the search engine to cheerfully index these domains and show them in the result pages?

cheers,
domexp

 

[netmeg]

No, the parking companies know better. Domain parking is not the same business it was even a year ago. Advertisers don't tend to like their ads showing up on parked domains, even though in some cases they really do convert to sales. Search engines don't really want to return parked domains for search results, and they're extremely picky about what types of traffic they'll pay out for on parking feeds. We're kind of the red headed stepchild of the industry, heh.

 

[Tribulatio]

With a name such as the one you have chosen, definitely don't go for parking, revenue would be unlikely. Since you focus just on one domain, build a small website, not a big one, a few pages with good content, including a small directory of links - even if only a fe, but well-selected. Then start to get backlinks, submit to a few search engines, get listed on some websites which are working in the same field. Submit also your URL (once you have a small website) to search engines (Google first, but other ones as well).
You will then see your traffic start.
And then, apply to AdSense for an account, and start putting their banners on your webpages.
You might also apply to other affiliates programs, or build a small Amazon bookshop with books and other material related to your field.
Even if you don't have much knowledge of HTML, there are tools these days allowing you to build a website quite easily, or you could also go for a blog-like solution if you prefer (but with an hosting service). If you are on Mac, try Rapid Weaver, a wonderful tool for website creation, a product of RealMacSoftware (www.realmacsoftware.com).
Of course, if you have several websites, that might become time consuming. Then build possibly one or two websites - which you will submit to Adsense for getting accepted (after that you can add more sites on your own), and park the rest of your websites with an account at WhyPark.com - a one-time fee of $100, up to 100 websites, and you can put your own Adsense ads, and also - what parking services otherwise do not allow - build links toward your website.
Good luck, you will enjoy doing it, even it won't make you rich, probably!

 

[Wearing Grey]

Hi Dome,

Sounds like you are just getting into domaining.

PM me your email and I will send you some references to help you on your way through domaining.

Regards,

G

 

[blaknite]

how on earth would a domain get search engine traffic if one does not do any SEO on it?

As an example, I hand regged a six letter acronym. Every day 50+ people search for this acronym looking for information related to its field. The name doesn't get any type-in (acronym.com) traffic. However since acronym.com is viewed as "the" authority site for people searching for that acronym and there is little competition I usually appear on the first page of search engines. The fact that my name is exactly what people are searching for leads them to choose my domain first out of the search results. For the first few months I easily captured 20 of those 50 daily searches.

In case you are wondering, I'm not going to tell you what the acronym is. Why? Because All it would take is one or two more minisites that are seo optimized for my keyword and I wouldn't get any of those visits. I've already started getting less of them. For the right hand reg, the traffic can be there but unless you plan to develop it simply isn't going to last. Don't expect to register many of these gems either. In my time here as a domainer, this is the only hand reg I've found that actually made money.

 

[domexp]

@ Tribulatio,
Many thanks for the detailed reply, appreciate it! Looks like I got my work cut out for me

@ Wearing Grey
Thanks, going to pm you now.

@ Blaknite
Thanks for the explaination - so basically this type of traffic is non-existent for newbies (or rather, these type of domains are super-duper-extremely rare! )

Many thanks again for all the replies guys/ladies!


cheers,
domexp

 

[fatter]

@ Tribulatio,
Many thanks for the detailed reply, appreciate it! Looks like I got my work cut out for me

@ Wearing Grey
Thanks, going to pm you now.

@ Blaknite
Thanks for the explaination - so basically this type of traffic is non-existent for newbies (or rather, these type of domains are super-duper-extremely rare! )

Many thanks again for all the replies guys/ladies!


cheers,
domexp

I think regging names with a lot of typein traffic is super duper rare, but regging names with a few typeins a week is not so rare and if you just get a one or two clicks a week names can be profitable and better chance for a resale. this is how I build my portfolio one small traffic name at a time

 

[Tribulatio]

I think regging names with a lot of typein traffic is super duper rare, but regging names with a few typeins a week is not so rare and if you just get a one or two clicks a week names can be profitable and better chance for a resale. this is how I build my portfolio one small traffic name at a time

This indeed is a reasonable approach with a long-term perspective: making more or less sure that there will be at least enough traffic to pay for registration fees. A good way to build a portfolio without going bankrupt. The question in domaining is indeed to assess how far to go and where to stop (i.e. how many domain names to buy, before making sure some of them can really be sold with a good profit). Some risk-taking is part of the excitement of that game - but one should keep a cool mind.

 

[domexp]

Thanks again guys for all the fabulous answers! Sorry for the sudden absence - caught the flu bug.

Looks like a long journey ahead in this game.

cheers,
domexp.

 

[Tribulatio]

Best wishes for a full recovery!

Thanks again guys for all the fabulous answers! Sorry for the sudden absence - caught the flu bug.