Domain Name Analyzer - THIS IS STRANGE

[Kamloops]

I downloaded the freeware Domain Name Analyzer two days ago. I found about 200 names I liked that were avail. That was June 1st. Today June 3rd I went to reg some, all gone and regged to:

Registrant:
Name Administration Inc. (BVI)
Box 10518 A.P.O.
Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands B.W.I.
KY
Domain name: SEATTLEHOMETHEATERS.COM

I find this too much of a coincidence.All 200 names regged 2 days after I check them with this free software!

 

[markmiddleton]

Thanks for bringing it to our attention, rep added.

If it turns out they have some how taken your idea's, I'd say its worth an email to the company in question saying your considering your position (or more directly consider legal action) in regards to those particular names. It works in some cases I hear.

- (Edited to remove the obvious question, quite early when I posted this )

 

[briman1970]

Hmmmm... I've never had a problem with DNA before and I've used it to look up thousands of names. That sucks. :td:

 

[.X.]

That a bummer, I have been using DNA for years now, never had that problem, I changed my whois to check Internic.com's system instead of the default checkers.

 

[htmlindex]

Ouch, that sucks. Which site did you download it from? I've seen a few different versions of it on different sites

 

[airwav]

I use Domain Analyzer Pro and have never had a problem. I think it only queries the name servers.

 

[verbster]

Those guys based out of the Caymans are becoming the black hole of domaining...they're sucking up tons of domains.

 

[Kamloops]

Ok I did a little test last night, I checked all these names using the program and they were all avail. This mornng all gone, not the caymen dudes this time but all regged at moniker. So coicidence? I think not!

Cincinnatiarbitration.com
Cincinnatibikerentals.com
Cincinnaticabinet.com
Cincinnatideck.com
Cincinnatidecking.com
Cincinnatiengineer.com
Cincinnatiengineering.com
Cincinnatiengineers.com
Cincinnatihomeimprovements.com
Cincinnatihottub.com
Cincinnatihottubs.com
Cincinnatiinns.com
Cincinnatilawn.com
Cincinnatinursery.com
Cincinnatioil.com
Cincinnatioptician.com
Cincinnatiopticians.com
Cincinnatipersonalinjurylaw.com
Cincinnatipsychotheraphy.com
Cincinnatirestoration.com
Cincinnatished.com
Cincinnatisheds.com
Cincinnatisign.com
Portlandpersonalinjurylaw.com
Baltimorepersonalinjurylaw.com
Sacramentopersonalinjurylaw.com
Minneapolispersonalinjurylaw.com

 

[briman1970]

Ok I did a little test last night, I checked all these names using the program and they were all avail. This mornng all gone, not the caymen dudes this time but all regged at moniker. So coicidence? I think not!

Cincinnatiarbitration.com
Cincinnatibikerentals.com
Cincinnaticabinet.com
Cincinnatideck.com
Cincinnatidecking.com
Cincinnatiengineer.com
Cincinnatiengineering.com
Cincinnatiengineers.com
Cincinnatihomeimprovements.com
Cincinnatihottub.com
Cincinnatihottubs.com
Cincinnatiinns.com
Cincinnatilawn.com
Cincinnatinursery.com
Cincinnatioil.com
Cincinnatioptician.com
Cincinnatiopticians.com
Cincinnatipersonalinjurylaw.com
Cincinnatipsychotheraphy.com
Cincinnatirestoration.com
Cincinnatished.com
Cincinnatisheds.com
Cincinnatisign.com
Portlandpersonalinjurylaw.com
Baltimorepersonalinjurylaw.com
Sacramentopersonalinjurylaw.com
Minneapolispersonalinjurylaw.com

Oh man, this is awful. I'll try to do a test using my DNA (which I thought was rock solid). I have several names on a "wanted" list which I've checked multiple times over the past several months and they were all still available last time I checked. Where did you download your version?

 

[Kamloops]

Ya it sucks. First time I ever used it downloaded it from here. Must be a reason why its free and I think I know why. Beware. I had some great names I was going to reg.

http://www.domainpunch.com/products/dna/

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Every DNA is "rebadged" to a certain extent; the version I use is idotz , if I remember correctly, although I had used hostingdude's in the past. It could very well have to do with the whois server you use for your .com queries: please post. It could be more malicious, as well, on the side of the "rebadgers", if you will.

-Allan

 

[yandig]

That's insane

I checked the expiry date just to be sure. Sure would be nice to know who was spying on you and how they did it...

 

[Kamloops]

I see it is using [Whois Source: whois.crsnic.net] how do I change that?

 

[kwan]

You can't change it. That's the verisign whois server. This does make me wonder if the tool is sending the requests or traffic to the verisign server being watched. That has been suggested before.

I see it is using [Whois Source: whois.crsnic.net] how do I change that?

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Well you can change it, certainly, but you are using the "correct" server (Hostingdude's version for a long time used a different server, if I remember correctly).

Retry your test after running this program: http://www.dnaz.net/ (Same program, different vendor.)

-Allan

 

[dgridley]

That's what I'm thinking.. seems his version is porting the searches back to someone..

Every DNA is "rebadged" to a certain extent; the version I use is idotz , if I remember correctly, although I had used hostingdude's in the past. It could very well have to do with the whois server you use for your .com queries: please post. It could be more malicious, as well, on the side of the "rebadgers", if you will.

-Allan

 

[dhscott]

I've never had much trouble with DNA, but then again I don't search many TLDs with it, I think that's what they're interested in.

I've been thinking of trying to create my own program to make sure there's no spying on my searches, but the time to create it puts me back.

 

[markmiddleton]

Okay I really don't like these kinds of systems so i'm running a little to test to see if its an automated script, I just checked:

whattheyregisteredthisonetoo.com
randomnumbers18181818181818xx.com
TDAFASNEF.COM (In case there is a character limit)
1112414141.COM
hopethiswastesalittleofyourmoney.com

Obviously no human will register them (I hope), so if they are gone tomorrow we know something fishy is going on in an automated capacity.

 

[Phronesis]

If they have no traffic, they will probably cancel them within a few days.

 

[tricolorro]

I downloaded the freeware Domain Name Analyzer two days ago. I found about 200 names I liked that were avail. That was June 1st. Today June 3rd I went to reg some, all gone and regged to:

Registrant:
Name Administration Inc. (BVI)
Box 10518 A.P.O.
Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands B.W.I.
KY
Domain name: SEATTLEHOMETHEATERS.COM

I find this too much of a coincidence.All 200 names regged 2 days after I check them with this free software!

:hi:

I do not believe there is anything wrong with the Domain Name Analyzer
software.

You can blame Dan Warner of Fabulous.com and Frank Schilling of Name Administration Inc for the sudden mass registration of "city name" + "keyword" domains.

Here's why:

Frank Schilling of Name Administration Inc. has a relatively new domaining blog which has deservedly become very popular among domainers.

http://frankschilling.typepad.com/

On June 1st ,Frank wrote about "The Great Domain Name Boom Ahead".
http://frankschilling.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/06/the_great_domai.html

His commentary was in response to an email from Fabulous.com regarding the great success they are having with "The Domain Distribution Network (DDN)".

Excerpt from the email that appeared on Frank's blog:
"The Domain Distribution Network (DDN), managed by Fabulous.com, has been running aftermarket domains distribution via the registrar channel for a month now. We are pleased to announce that there has been proof of concept for this new paradigm in domain sales. The program has had strong sales and is showing promising results. It is fully expected that aftermarket domain sales via registrars will become a major part of the market, with registrars becoming the natural home for the bulk of aftermarket sales.".

There's much more so be sure to visit Frank's blog.

It's Frank's comments that appeared afterwards that I believe set off the domain registration frenzy.

Excerpts from Frank's comments:

"Now you can take 50,000 names which make less than $6.00 a year on PPC, plug them into this system and generate more than $15,000 a day in domain name sales... This is on names which make no money via traffic!!"

"Folks, this is a game-changer."

"...based on what I'm seeing here, nothing is going to expire anymore in future and your names are going to become much more valuable -- Heck .. many of your best names are probably still sitting in the available pool right now, unregistered!! Go!"

(Bolding and red lettering added by me).

What will sell?

"...Any product or service with cityname".

"...comb Google for a list of the 100 biggest US cities and add the most popular yellow-page listings..".

And that is exactly what many of his followers have done.

As did Frank.

On June 03, he followed up with this blog posting:
"I Just Registered Some Names..."

http://frankschilling.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/06/i_just_register.html

"...I see some of you were busy -- many in my list were taken June 1st .. good for you".
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So it was a coincidence.

You happened to search for domains on the very day Frank Schilling
published "The Great Domain Name Boom Ahead".

Many more domains were regged between June 01 and now than
just the one's you researched as you will see if you do a
Who Is look up for "...Any product or service with cityname".

Frank also "lost" domains that were on his 'to register list' as
he stated in his blog.

If this was a case of domain spying then within 5 days of the registration date many of the domains would drop and be available to reg again.

Domain Spyers and Tasters measure domain traffic and release the domains that won't earn the renewal fee. They don't register domains to resell.

I hope this helps solve the puzzle.

Read Frank Schilling's blog.

It's quite an education in domaining. :imho:

Patrick

Ok I did a little test last night, I checked all these names using the program and they were all avail. This mornng all gone, not the caymen dudes this time but all regged at moniker. So coicidence? I think not!

Cincinnatiarbitration.com
Cincinnatibikerentals.com
Cincinnaticabinet.com
Cincinnatideck.com
Cincinnatidecking.com
Cincinnatiengineer.com
Cincinnatiengineering.com
Cincinnatiengineers.com
Cincinnatihomeimprovements.com
Cincinnatihottub.com
Cincinnatihottubs.com
Cincinnatiinns.com
Cincinnatilawn.com
Cincinnatinursery.com
Cincinnatioil.com
Cincinnatioptician.com
Cincinnatiopticians.com
Cincinnatipersonalinjurylaw.com
Cincinnatipsychotheraphy.com
Cincinnatirestoration.com
Cincinnatished.com
Cincinnatisheds.com
Cincinnatisign.com
Portlandpersonalinjurylaw.com
Baltimorepersonalinjurylaw.com
Sacramentopersonalinjurylaw.com
Minneapolispersonalinjurylaw.com

:hi:

All are regged via Moniker.

Is it domain spying?

Or a follower of Frank Schilling's blog?

See my other posting.

Also check the domains again on June 09.

If spying most or all will drop.

Patrick