discuss Domain Myths and Lies

[ThatNameGuy]

I'd like to start this thread with the statement I hear so often from "so called" professionals in the domain industry, "All the Good Domains, especially the .coms are already taken"

This couldn't be further from the truth Having started, operated and yes NAMED dozens of businesses in my lifetime, I know better. Regardless of the business you're looking to start, chances are I can find or locate a name that's more than satisfactory to run/operate your business within an hour. Seriously, naming a business isn't rocket science, but to listen to those who make a living from the domain industry, they would like for you to think it is

Having discovered this industry just a little over two years ago, I've hand registered a couple thousand names of which I still own a little over a thousand of which 80% are more than satisfactory for running a business.

Other myths to discuss;

"Shorter is better"

"Older is better"

"New gTLD's are garbage"

Please feel free to chime in. Thanks

 

[NickB]

You spoke to someone who knows nothing about this industry and lo and behold they didn't understand it

How many names do you have now @ThatNameGuy ? It must be in the 1000s If they all don't have a landing pages, how are you marketing them all? The time it would take to just market 1 name via phone calls, emails and trade shows would be counter productive - ask domain brokers about making phone calls or even people like myself who have spent most of they working life selling on the phone and see how "easy" it is, ask people on here who make a good living from emailing prospects how much work they put into it and then multiply that into the 1000s - it is not as easy as you are trying to make out...

You talk a good game, but all we see on here is talk and no results.

I know people who talk like you and act this way BUT they back it up with proven results because......

"“Talk without the support of action means nothing.”

"Talk is cheap"

“Ordinary People Promise To Do More. Extraordinary People Just Do More.”

etc etc etc

 

[BaileyUK]

Did you also mention in 2 years, you haven't listed your names at the various marketplaces or even setup proper landing pages so people can actually contact you to make an offer? Stuff newbies should pick up during month 1.

Some people just haven't got the time, What with all the New Ideas and concepts, Meetings, and Discussions they have taking place. Plus you do get to avoid that reality check - that nobody is even viewing your domains let alone making any offers

 

[dirk]

i think you might have difficulty trademarking initials?

Nope... Can easily be done.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

You spoke to someone who knows nothing about this industry and lo and behold they didn't understand it

How many names do you have now @ThatNameGuy ? It must be in the 1000s If they all don't have a landing pages, how are you marketing them all? The time it would take to just market 1 name via phone calls, emails and trade shows would be counter productive - ask domain brokers about making phone calls or even people like myself who have spent most of they working life selling on the phone and see how "easy" it is, ask people on here who make a good living from emailing prospects how much work they put into it and then multiply that into the 1000s - it is not as easy as you are trying to make out...

You talk a good game, but all we see on here is talk and no results.

I know people who talk like you and act this way BUT they back it up with proven results because......

"“Talk without the support of action means nothing.”

"Talk is cheap"

“Ordinary People Promise To Do More. Extraordinary People Just Do More.”

etc etc etc

You seem awfully bitter MrAcidic, but if the shoe fits The gentlemen I lunched with today has way more marketing experience than you or I will ever have. So, what does that have to do with the time of day?....Alot! Regardless of what you've been told or how you've been brainwashed, marketing or selling of domains isn't that much different than selling anything. Mike G. was quick to pick up on Verisigns "hoarding" comments from a year ago, and he totally understood the comment when he learned that 98% of domains are not sold each year. Lets take for example, you were kind enough to share on your information link that BusinessMortgages.com is not only your favorite domain, but you also consider it your most valuable domain. I don't know how long you've owned it, but I see where it has a landing page at Sedo, and they're asking $12,000 for it if I recall. Maybe the vernacular is different in the UK than the US, but in the US we call them Business Loans and not Business Mortgages. That said, most businesses in the US don't own their own building/property but maybe it's different in the UK? Furthermore, from my research on Namebio your beloved Domain is at least 20 years old meaning someone has hoarded it for all that long.

If it were me or even my new friend who you believe knows nothing about selling domains, I can assure you we wouldn't have bought your domain and sat on it for 20 years. My recommendation to you is to try and be a little more open minded, and the same goes for your friend from the UK who seems to take the same approach as you.

Finally, I could probably help you to sell it, but not here in the states because we don't do many what your refer to as business mortgages. If I'm not making sense to you, I would recommend you get off my case, and look into a different line of work. Also remember, while we may all speak English, this doesn't mean we do business the same way....sometimes our business understanding is as different as night and day. Cheers! and Good Luck!

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Nope... Can easily be done.

I'm not so sure how easily it can be done? I've trademarked four, now five names with the last one being 9Time™. I'm far from an expert, and I'm sure you've had a lot more experience. I just know I can't trademark IBM, and as a VAR, I sold IBM systems for years

 

[NickB]

You seem awfully bitter MrAcidic, but if the shoe fits The gentlemen I lunched with today has way more marketing experience than you or I will ever have. So, what does that have to do with the time of day?....Alot! Regardless of what you've been told or how you've been brainwashed, marketing or selling of domains isn't that much different than selling anything. Mike G. was quick to pick up on Verisigns "hoarding" comments from a year ago, and he totally understood the comment when he learned that 98% of domains are not sold each year. Lets take for example, you were kind enough to share on your information link that BusinessMortgages.com is not only your favorite domain, but you also consider it your most valuable domain. I don't know how long you've owned it, but I see where it has a landing page at Sedo, and they're asking $12,000 for it if I recall. Maybe the vernacular is different in the UK than the US, but in the US we call them Business Loans and not Business Mortgages. That said, most businesses in the US don't own their own building/property but maybe it's different in the UK? Furthermore, from my research on Namebio your beloved Domain is at least 20 years old meaning someone has hoarded it for all that long.

If it were me or even my new friend who you believe knows nothing about selling domains, I can assure you we wouldn't have bought your domain and sat on it for 20 years. My recommendation to you is to try and be a little more open minded, and the same goes for your friend from the UK who seems to take the same approach as you.

Finally, I could probably help you to sell it, but not here in the states because we don't do many what your refer to as business mortgages. If I'm not making sense to you, I would recommend you get off my case, and look into a different line of work. Also remember, while we may all speak English, this doesn't mean we do business the same way....sometimes our business understanding is as different as night and day. Cheers! and Good Luck!

You do make me chuckle - nothing bitter at my end, it does make for good reading over my morning coffee though.

I have not been been told anything or brainwashed, I do my own research and come to my own conclusions. I raised the point that with your volume of names it would be counter productive going down this route. When you factor in the amount of time, resources and effort required to sell 1 name via outbound sales, marketing or whatever you want to call it then multiply that by a 1000 + it is not going to be worth it...

In the UK a business loan (https://www.businessloans.com) is not a commercial mortgage (http://commercialmortgages.com) both are already in use with BusinessLoan.com not resolving.

If Barclays are happy to use this phrase then it is good enough for me.........

My current favourite name is actually a hand registration, DefiMortgages.com - another finance related name, closely followed by Biura.com (offices in Polish) which was a recent acquisition . Funny how your favourite names change constantly....

The good thing with having a landing page (be it Sedo or any other one) is you can monitor where the traffic is coming from, how many people visit and more importantly get offers on your assets. In short you get to "market" your name for very little effort and no upfront costs (unless you use Efty), imagine that Just requires a little patience and the willingness to hold onto names that you believe in....

You implied your friend knew nothing about the industry when you first mentioned it to him You had to explain to him how it works, well your version of it anyway.....

Enjoy your weekend

 

[ThatNameGuy]

You do make me chuckle - nothing bitter at my end, it does make for good reading over my morning coffee though.

I have not been been told anything or brainwashed, I do my own research and come to my own conclusions. I raised the point that with your volume of names it would be counter productive going down this route. When you factor in the amount of time, resources and effort required to sell 1 name via outbound sales, marketing or whatever you want to call it then multiply that by a 1000 + it is not going to be worth it...

In the UK a business loan (https://www.businessloans.com) is not a commercial mortgage (http://commercialmortgages.com) both are already in use with BusinessLoan.com not resolving.

If Barclays are happy to use this phrase then it is good enough for me.........

My current favourite name is actually a hand registration, DefiMortgages.com - another finance related name, closely followed by Biura.com (offices in Polish) which was a recent acquisition . Funny how your favourite names change constantly....

The good thing with having a landing page (be it Sedo or any other one) is you can monitor where the traffic is coming from, how many people visit and more importantly get offers on your assets. In short you get to "market" your name for very little effort and no upfront costs (unless you use Efty), imagine that Just requires a little patience and the willingness to hold onto names that you believe in....

You implied your friend knew nothing about the industry when you first mentioned it to him You had to explain to him how it works, well your version of it anyway.....

Enjoy your weekend

"nothing bitter on my end"?....are you saying that with a straight face MrAcidic It's interesting how we differ with the UK spelling the word "favourite" and the US spelling it "favorite". I was also telling the marketing professor yesterday how I own a portfolio of domains that use the keyword Savor like in SavorManhattan, but I also own domains with the keyword Savour like SavourtheDeep (note, this is available to buy at the moment).

Moving on...is your new favourite domain really DefiMortgages.com? I see where you just hand reg'd that domain in June, and you have it for sale at Sedo for 25K.....Seriously Again, this must be a UK thing because I doubt any mortgage company in the US would pay you any more than $25 for it. btw, in the neighborhood where I live we have at least a half dozen mortgage brokers who all work for different mortgage companies and I know each and everyone of them because I either workout, golf, fish, dine, and party with them, guys and gals

Curious, do you still have rotary dial phones in the UK? And are you only capable of sending one email at a time? Here in the US we have what are called predictive dialers that can dial thousands of numbers consecutively, but if that's too confusing for you, we simply have auto dialers where once you finish talking to a particular prospect you just click a key and voila! you have your next prospect on the phone. Then as for email, were you aware you can BLAST thousands of emails at once to a particular target audience like ALL the realtors in the world?

Come on MrAcidic, I'm twice your age, but even I understand automation, and I'm learning about AI, or Artificial Intelligence. I sorta like your avitar/moniker MrAcidic and I just learned that MrAcidic.com is available to register and GD values it at $1,066. I'd buy it for $8.50 to give to you, but you'd just take it as an insult btw, if I did buy it, you can bet I wouldn't rely on Sedo to sell it for me sometime in the next 20+ years. However, you could expect to get an email from me with the name MrAcidic.com prominently displayed. Do you get the concept?

Finally, you and fellow NP critics can doubt me all you want, but like with 9Time™ that will revolutionize golf, my ideas for "outbound" targeted marketing strategies will revolutionize the domain industry. I'm chuckling with you my brother from across the pond, but I'm afraid our chuckles represent entirely different things. Enjoy your weekend, and God Bless Guinness

 

[NickB]

"nothing bitter on my end"?....are you saying that with a straight face MrAcidic It's interesting how we differ with the UK spelling the word "favourite" and the US spelling it "favorite". I was also telling the marketing professor yesterday how I own a portfolio of domains that use the keyword Savor like in SavorManhattan, but I also own domains with the keyword Savour like SavourtheDeep (note, this is available to buy at the moment).

Moving on...is your new favourite domain really DefiMortgages.com? I see where you just hand reg'd that domain in June, and you have it for sale at Sedo for 25K.....Seriously Again, this must be a UK thing because I doubt any mortgage company in the US would pay you any more than $25 for it. btw, in the neighborhood where I live we have at least a half dozen mortgage brokers who all work for different mortgage companies and I know each and everyone of them because I either workout, golf, fish, dine, and party with them, guys and gals

Curious, do you still have rotary dial phones in the UK? And are you only capable of sending one email at a time? Here in the US we have what are called predictive dialers that can dial thousands of numbers consecutively, but if that's too confusing for you, we simply have auto dialers where once you finish talking to a particular prospect you just click a key and voila! you have your next prospect on the phone. Then as for email, were you aware you can BLAST thousands of emails at once to a particular target audience like ALL the realtors in the world?

Come on MrAcidic, I'm twice your age, but even I understand automation, and I'm learning about AI, or Artificial Intelligence. I sorta like your avitar/moniker MrAcidic and I just learned that MrAcidic.com is available to register and GD values it at $1,066. I'd buy it for $8.50 to give to you, but you'd just take it as an insult btw, if I did buy it, you can bet I wouldn't rely on Sedo to sell it for me sometime in the next 20+ years. However, you could expect to get an email from me with the name MrAcidic.com prominently displayed. Do you get the concept?

Finally, you and fellow NP critics can doubt me all you want, but like with 9Time™ that will revolutionize golf, my ideas for "outbound" targeted marketing strategies will revolutionize the domain industry. I'm chuckling with you my brother from across the pond, but I'm afraid our chuckles represent entirely different things. Enjoy your weekend, and God Bless Guinness

 

[NickB]

"nothing bitter on my end"?....are you saying that with a straight face MrAcidic It's interesting how we differ with the UK spelling the word "favourite" and the US spelling it "favorite". I was also telling the marketing professor yesterday how I own a portfolio of domains that use the keyword Savor like in SavorManhattan, but I also own domains with the keyword Savour like SavourtheDeep (note, this is available to buy at the moment).

Moving on...is your new favourite domain really DefiMortgages.com? I see where you just hand reg'd that domain in June, and you have it for sale at Sedo for 25K.....Seriously Again, this must be a UK thing because I doubt any mortgage company in the US would pay you any more than $25 for it. btw, in the neighborhood where I live we have at least a half dozen mortgage brokers who all work for different mortgage companies and I know each and everyone of them because I either workout, golf, fish, dine, and party with them, guys and gals

Curious, do you still have rotary dial phones in the UK? And are you only capable of sending one email at a time? Here in the US we have what are called predictive dialers that can dial thousands of numbers consecutively, but if that's too confusing for you, we simply have auto dialers where once you finish talking to a particular prospect you just click a key and voila! you have your next prospect on the phone. Then as for email, were you aware you can BLAST thousands of emails at once to a particular target audience like ALL the realtors in the world?

Come on MrAcidic, I'm twice your age, but even I understand automation, and I'm learning about AI, or Artificial Intelligence. I sorta like your avitar/moniker MrAcidic and I just learned that MrAcidic.com is available to register and GD values it at $1,066. I'd buy it for $8.50 to give to you, but you'd just take it as an insult btw, if I did buy it, you can bet I wouldn't rely on Sedo to sell it for me sometime in the next 20+ years. However, you could expect to get an email from me with the name MrAcidic.com prominently displayed. Do you get the concept?

Finally, you and fellow NP critics can doubt me all you want, but like with 9Time™ that will revolutionize golf, my ideas for "outbound" targeted marketing strategies will revolutionize the domain industry. I'm chuckling with you my brother from across the pond, but I'm afraid our chuckles represent entirely different things. Enjoy your weekend, and God Bless Guinness

You do make me laugh!

Go and do some reading up on Decentralized Finance (American Spelling here!) and then we can talk seriously about Defi.

Auto dialers and mass email shots is spamming - good luck with this model, which pisses off the majority of people

Do you what the conversion rates are for mass emails are? The average click through rate in the States in just under 3% and the average sales conversion is below 1% - compare this with the domain industry average for selling good domains at 1% - 3% I know what I would rather be focusing my attention on - good old fashion landers

No more Guinness for me - I stopped drinking 3 months ago, stopped smoking 2 years ago and have been a miserable bastard every since

 

[ThatNameGuy]

You do make me laugh!

Go and do some reading up on Decentralized Finance (American Spelling here!) and then we can talk seriously about Defi.

Auto dialers and mass email shots is spamming - good luck with this model, which pisses off the majority of people

Do you what the conversion rates are for mass emails are? The average click through rate in the States in just under 3% and the average sales conversion is below 1% - compare this with the domain industry average for selling good domains at 1% - 3% I know what I would rather be focusing my attention on - good old fashion landers

No more Guinness for me - I stopped drinking 3 months ago, stopped smoking 2 years ago and have been a miserable bastard every since

Well...you've owned BusinessMortgages.com for 20+ years using "good old fashion landers"...how has that worked for you?
Moving on...i'd already read up on Decentralized Finance before I responded to your new favourite domain. At first I thought you meant RefiMortgages that happens to be for sale at GD for $7,900, but when I Googled Defi Mortgages i learned what you know. It took me all of about 60 seconds to learn DefiMortgages could have some possibilites, but 25K at Sedo

Moving on......i don't think you understand the difference between spamming and strategic targeted marketing. You would probably need to go back to school to learn the difference. I see you're into "finance" and "mortgage domains", and I'm guessing you may own a few? You can ask Marek, the lolwarrior who owns Brands.International out of Prague about me. He knows me, and he also knows I owned about 50 new gTLD's that had the extension .loans like Balloon.loans, SportsCar.loans, and others that were pretty damn good. Marek even recognized that I knew the industry, and I owned some decent names. So what happened?....I was buying them so fast and furious I didn't have time to implement the targeted marketing strategy I had for them. Marek knows this too...while I really liked the new gTLD concept for domains, I knew that time was of the essence, and if I were to succeed I'd need to transition my portfolio of domains from gTLD's to .coms. Well, it took about a year, but mission accomplished. Now my portfolio consists of 80% .coms and 20% gTLD's.

Finally, when Verisign confirmed my thinking about domains being hoarded, I just knew I was on the right track. I'm not saying you or domainers in general "hoard" intentionally, but it's the Nature of the Beast btw, I know I have a following here on NP because of my outspoken nature, my transparency and willingness to share. I know this as well as I know "outbound" targeted marketing will work, and now that my friend Rob Monster is somehow involved with NP?, I'm hoping he may realize my passion, and maybe he can create a place where some of us can freely discuss and share ideas and strategies for how a brokerage like this might work to the benefit of everyone. And by everyone, I also mean Epik

 

[Joe N]

Moving on......i don't think you understand the difference between spamming and strategic targeted marketing. You would probably need to go back to school to learn the difference.

I'd actually be interested in hearing some more about this, Rich. I had the same concerns as @MrAcidic when you mentioned predictive dialers and email blasts.

Spam is actually defined to be any unsolicited bulk email, so email blasts would certainly qualify. The practice isn't illegal in the US as long as you follow certain rules, but the conversion rates are definitely extremely low (also mentioned above).

One of your issues will be that many people already use this tactic to attempt to sell domain names, so unless you customize each email (time-consuming) and select only very relevant potential buyers (can be tricky, and also time-consuming), your emails become part of the white noise that is internet spam.

As an example... Let's say you email 100 NYC businesses about the name SavorManhattan.com, and a couple days later I email the same businesses about the name AmazingNYC.com, then a couple days after that they get an email about NewYorkDream.com. How will your name be the one that stands out? Why are these businesses going to subjectively feel that SavorManhattan is such a good brand that they: a) must pay a premium to own it, and b) don't mind being spammed about it?

I know you don't think much about the domain industry, Rich. But I do think it's important to acknowledge that there are many many smart people (marketers, business owners, etc) who have already experimented with all these ideas. If you ignore what's already been done, and don't benefit from the knowledge already available, you'll ultimately be spinning your wheels. Work smarter not harder, right?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I'd actually be interested in hearing some more about this, Rich. I had the same concerns as @MrAcidic when you mentioned predictive dialers and email blasts.

Spam is actually defined to be any unsolicited bulk email, so email blasts would certainly qualify. The practice isn't illegal in the US as long as you follow certain rules, but the conversion rates are definitely extremely low (also mentioned above).

One of your issues will be that many people already use this tactic to attempt to sell domain names, so unless you customize each email (time-consuming) and select only very relevant potential buyers (can be tricky, and also time-consuming), your emails become part of the white noise that is internet spam.

As an example... Let's say you email 100 NYC businesses about the name SavorManhattan.com, and a couple days later I email the same businesses about the name AmazingNYC.com, then a couple days after that they get an email about NewYorkDream.com. How will your name be the one that stands out? Why are these businesses going to subjectively feel that SavorManhattan is such a good brand that they: a) must pay a premium to own it, and b) don't mind being spammed about it?

I know you don't think much about the domain industry, Rich. But I do think it's important to acknowledge that there are many many smart people (marketers, business owners, etc) who have already experimented with all these ideas. If you ignore what's already been done, and don't benefit from the knowledge already available, you'll ultimately be spinning your wheels. Work smarter not harder, right?

OK Joe...i don't have much time to address your concerns, but while having a 2 hour lunch with the recently retired marketing professor, he too found it hard to believe how the domain business model works, or doesn't work? Keep in mind, like me he knew very little about the domain industry having taught marketing to many thousands of students over the years.

So let me share with you his response when I told him the typical domainer who might own SavorManhattan.com may have bought it from another domainer or at auction, but in my case I hand registered the name for $8.50 about six months ago. Then what the typical domainer would do, is list it for sale at registries "end users" never heard of like Sedo, Uniregistry, Flippa etc., and then forget about it. Then he asked, what do you mean "forget about it"? Then I explained the 1-2% annual sales rate, and the fact the domainer needs to pay to re-register each domain annually, I thought he would fall off his chair Then when he asked if I owned any other domains using the "keyword" Savor/Savour, and I explained that I own 25 - 30 domains using the keyword Savor he understood immediately WHY.

Joe, you probably don't remember this, but when I saw a brilliant publication/magazine called "Savor Virginia", with "Virginia" inside the "O" on the cover of the magazine, I thought, how cool

The point I want to make here Joe is that domains like SavorRome.com, SavortheGrape.com and even SavorGolf.com are PERFECT names for publications/magazines. So who might you target for these domains Joe? If you don't know, or don't know how to get an email or call magazine publishers world wide, you'll never understand.

This is all I have time for Joe

 

[xynames]

Almost all of the domains he picks such as savormanhattan pass some sort of radio test in his head but fail a basic analysis of ... what is the market? To be fair most domaining newcomers make the same mistake but these newcomers eventually sharpen their picking skills or suffer a Darwinian demise.

savormanhattan’s market would be...as he more or less points out himself, some kind of startup that wants to write about or explore in some way what manhattan has to offer. Problem is it’s a micro set (those wanting to expand on manhattan) of a small subset to begin with (the subset being the geo centric not even city, of manhattan). Before buying such a domain I’d take a look and see how many “exploremanhattan” type sites there are and whether there’s even much of a need for a site with such a narrow focus, using a term like “savor.” And then I’d think about whether the term savor is even that great of a defining verb in this context and whether other verbs “like” “enjoy” “love” “explore” couldn’t do the job just as well making the domain less unique less valuable and more interchangeable with a lot of other domains that might even be available to hand register.

Finally the fact that the domain was available to hand register and has been passed on by countless billions of brains in the history of the internet makes most experienced domainers at least pause and think about why this might be - and whether it’s due to that the name just plain stinks or might have been passed by because of a new need market or expansion on the words in question (think i.e. crypto domains etc.). In the former case (“stinks”), you pass, in the latter case (new emerging market) you might buy.

With ThatNameGuy I’d wager that none of these filtering thoughts come into play - as long as the domain “sounds brilliant to him,” he pulls the trigger, to the tune now, of thousands of domains. If there’s any benefit to following this nameguy, it’s in learning not to be too eager to assume that we know everything and to think more deeply on buying hand regs that no one in the history of the internet has bothered to pick up.

 

[BaileyUK]

Trying to leave personalities aside, It isn't hard to recognize that this particular member sees one example of a particular word, Usually a 'descriptive' in a particular context, then goes overboard on varying applications of that said 'Word' and unfortunately most (If not all) are just not any good.

It probably all comes down to an over stimulated imagination. God knows where he would be if there were 48 hours in a day. I think most of us would recognize when it's time to stop registering domains and take stock. Unfortunately in this particular members mindset that 'Pause' just seems to be a cue to change-direction to whatever the next 'Attention grabber' (or should that be lack-of attention) is that enters his head.

I admire his persistence in trying to reach-out to prospective partners. but unfortunately there appears to be nothing on the table for a perspective partner other than just a lot of hot-air . I suppose the one good thing about making so many posts about all these ideas (mostly just repeats of the same thing) is that everyone gets lots of opportunity to become aware of how NOT to get into the Domaining.

I can only liken it to 'Attention deficit disorder' I do wonder how long it will take for the inevitable outcome and awareness to finally come home to roost

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Almost all of the domains he picks such as savormanhattan pass some sort of radio test in his head but fail a basic analysis of ... what is the market? To be fair most domaining newcomers make the same mistake but these newcomers eventually sharpen their picking skills or suffer a Darwinian demise.

savormanhattan’s market would be...as he more or less points out himself, some kind of startup that wants to write about or explore in some way what manhattan has to offer. Problem is it’s a micro set (those wanting to expand on manhattan) of a small subset to begin with (the subset being the geo centric not even city, of manhattan). Before buying such a domain I’d take a look and see how many “exploremanhattan” type sites there are and whether there’s even much of a need for a site with such a narrow focus, using a term like “savor.” And then I’d think about whether the term savor is even that great of a defining verb in this context and whether other verbs “like” “enjoy” “love” “explore” couldn’t do the job just as well making the domain less unique less valuable and more interchangeable with a lot of other domains that might even be available to hand register.

Finally the fact that the domain was available to hand register and has been passed on by countless billions of brains in the history of the internet makes most experienced domainers at least pause and think about why this might be - and whether it’s due to that the name just plain stinks or might have been passed by because of a new need market or expansion on the words in question (think i.e. crypto domains etc.). In the former case (“stinks”), you pass, in the latter case (new emerging market) you might buy.

With ThatNameGuy I’d wager that none of these filtering thoughts come into play - as long as the domain “sounds brilliant to him,” he pulls the trigger, to the tune now, of thousands of domains. If there’s any benefit to following this nameguy, it’s in learning not to be too eager to assume that we know everything and to think more deeply on buying hand regs that no one in the history of the internet has bothered to pick up.

So do you know who this guy is: https://www.namepros.com/threads/domain-myths-and-lies.1162896/page-2#post-7493266

Don't you know how "sexy" the words "Savor" and "Savour" are?

and SavorManhattan wouldn't make a great name for the finest in cuisine in Manhattan?

I know you enjoy critiquing my every move, but while you were in law school I was starting, operating and yes NAMING businesses for a living. Now you will have to excuse me because I just learned that SavorParis.com and SavorMaine.com are available. You may not know anything about either Paris or Maine, but I've been to Paris twice and Maine a half dozen times so there's a long shot chance the $17 I spend to add these names to my portfolio just may be worth the risk

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Trying to leave personalities aside, It isn't hard to recognize that this particular member sees one example of a particular word, Usually a 'descriptive' in a particular context, then goes overboard on varying applications of that said 'Word' and unfortunately most (If not all) are just not any good.

It probably all comes down to an over stimulated imagination. God knows where he would be if there were 48 hours in a day. I think most of us would recognize when it's time to stop registering domains and take stock. Unfortunately in this particular members mindset that 'Pause' just seems to be a cue to change-direction to whatever the next 'Attention grabber' (or should that be lack-of attention) is that enters his head.

I admire his persistence in trying to reach-out to prospective partners. but unfortunately there appears to be nothing on the table for a perspective partner other than just a lot of hot-air . I suppose the one good thing about making so many posts about all these ideas (mostly just repeats of the same thing) is that everyone gets lots of opportunity to become aware of how NOT to get into the Domaining.

I can only liken it to 'Attention deficit disorder' I do wonder how long it will take for the inevitable outcome and awareness to finally come home to roost

As for you Bailey, do you know this guy? https://www.namepros.com/threads/domain-myths-and-lies.1162896/page-2#post-7493266
Have you ever been to Maine?, Manhattan?. Now I know there's a chance you've been to Paris. How do they say it there? Savor or Savour....inquiring minds would luv to know. Cheers 'ol chap!

 

[NickB]

Done with this thread.......

 

[ForexTopNews]

As with any commerce or sale, an item or service is only as valuable as what the purchaser is willing to pay for it.

 

[Windoms]

@ThatNameGuy he's right when he says

Almost all of the domains he picks such as savormanhattan pass some sort of radio test in his head but fail a basic analysis of ... what is the market? To be fair most domaining newcomers make the same mistake

Your domains are not bad, they all sound good and because you might have a lot, maybe some are good.
Here is the thing.
You haven't started selling them, meaning no landers or / listing them on marketplaces.
You should do that right away, for all your domains. With make offer, at least, if for some reason you don't want to ruin your valuation or whatever.
You can also set bin and activate afternic fast transfer with a lander set on make offer, no future customer from the time when your plan is ready will be able to know about previous pricing.
Using conventional methods, you could have already had 2 years of expertise. If you don't try to sell your domains the conventional way, you won't learn what sells and what doesn't.

I like domain investing because even if you have expertise from another industry, you still have to spend time and money before you know what you are acquiring and how to price it correctly.
Having $1.000 vs $50.000 on day 1 won't help with that learning curve.

You learn faster and better when you actually put them for sale, the conventional way.
Not trying to sell them only slows you down.
Also a critical fact is that a good brand is not the same as a good domain name.
You have experience naming businesses, your names sound good, but your targeted markets might be too narrow to make your names good domains that sell.
List them for sale and see what sells / gets offers, while following your original plan.

 

[Joe N]

So who might you target for these domains Joe? If you don't know, or don't know how to get an email or call magazine publishers world wide, you'll never understand.

Ok, but can you help me understand? In the name of helping/teaching those of us who don't have your same vision and experience?