Domain Apprasial Scam Thread

Discussion in 'Warnings and Alerts' started by D. Wells, Dec 3, 2012.

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  1. nubuck

    nubuck New Member

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    He must be working for go-appraiser.com
    He is directing everyone to buy appraisal certificates.

    ---------- Post added at 09:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 PM ----------

    Is go-appraiser.com a legit site?
     
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  2. mmfood

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    Add Isaac Tuchman, CEO of Web Hosting Solutions, Inc to the list!!

    Didn't see this thread, I actually just posted the same stuff in the other thread that is old. I found these threads through google, anyhow...

    I basically just had the same exact email sent to me as well, asking for an appraisal, yadda yadda. Instead of a blog, he linked me to a ridiculous "archived forum" that he tried to disguise as part of sevenforum.com His fake forum address is seven-forums.net.

    Also, he tries to get you to get an appraisal from his company go-appraiser.com His name is Isaac Tuchman.

    Supposedly the CEO of Web Hosting Solutions, Inc.

    LOL, f'n ridiculous.

    Be aware everyone!

    Here was his first email to me...almost spot on to everyone elses' mail message.

     
  3. soniyo

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    Lol its david tuchman in mine lemme copy n post it , thanks u all for saving me :)

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    and second he knows about his scams online and asks me if im in any of hosting forums etc :)

    hope it helps others , im sad again but happy in a way :( , this mail had made me happy initially , but thats k its life :(
     
  4. tomriddlebaugh

    tomriddlebaugh New Member

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    And another name.......


    "to avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

    Please read this information:
    (edit: uses seven forums link)

    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.


    Best regards,

    J Justman

    CEO"
    Justman justman-at-lowcost-hosting.

    Has anyone told GoDaddy? The two comdomains he used and promoted:
    go-appraiser.
    lowcost-hosting.


    *
     
  5. pronamer

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    I received two of these appraisal scam e-mails today. One is from David Bortman CEO of Low Cost Hosting Solutions, and the other name he is using is David Rotman CEO of Effective Web Hosting Solutions Inc. :lol:
     
  6. laladomains

    laladomains Established Member

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    I also received an email from this guy, now his name is Adam Sorensen:

    that guy offered me a nice price, but after that he sent me the next message:

     
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  7. StoneRoses

    StoneRoses Active Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Todays name is david jacobsen


    Hello!

    I'm very interested in purchasing xxxxxxx.com.

    I found it listed for sale.

    Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    David Jacobson

    CEO

    VIP Hosting Solutions Swiss
     
  8. acidieus

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    Hi all,

    This guy has now shape-shifted in to Mark Zusman!

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    Hello!

    I'm very interested in purchasing xxxxxxx.com.

    I found it listed for sale.

    Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Mark Zusman

    Vice President

    Best Web Hosting Net-Host

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    CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.
     
  9. gaas

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    They sure have a lot of CEO's.

    Hello!

    I'm very interested in purchasing 3dfone.com.

    I found it listed for sale.

    Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Aaron Anderson

    CEO

    I've asked for 10000 bitcoins..
     
  10. lew247

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    I really should read more but being new to domains and websites etc I'm a genuine "rookie".

    I got the email from
    Aaron Anderson
    CEO
    Live Host Solutions

    Basically the same as the above

    However I went and got the appraisal from icaan and the valuation surpised me, it was more than I was expecting
    So as long as icaan valuations are genuine and not another scam he has actually done me a favour
    because I am selling my two sites and now have a proper valuation.

    Lewis
     
  11. Kate

    Kate Thinking inside the Box™ VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    You've been screwed. File a charge back now.
    Appraisals are pointless anyway, domains don't sell because they have nice appraisals.
    They sell because somebody wants them and will pay. Domains that nobody wants have no market value.
     
  12. pjb1978

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    Another one:


    From: berman@live-host.org
    To: ######@#######.com
    Subject: ########.com
    Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 08:21:47 -0700

    Hello!

    I'm very interested in purchasing ########.com.

    I found it listed for sale.

    Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    David Berman

    CEO

    Live Host Services

    ***************************

    CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.[/I]
     
  13. pjb1978

    pjb1978 Established Member

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    Not going to lie.. I had a bit of fun with this one... (read from top to bottom)

    ___________________________________________________

    Paul,

    I may offer up to 7500 usd for this domain but the final price will depend on official appraisal results. I have 75,000 usd budget for 10-12 domains.

    How can I pay you (PayPal, Western Union, escrow.com etc.)? If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

    Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?


    Best regards,
    David Berman
    CEO
    _________________________________________________

    Ok, feel free to have the domain appraised, and let me know the final results.

    Payment should be escrow.com, to ensure that we're both covered.

    Regards,

    Paul

    __________________________________________________

    Before we go further I will ask about two small things:

    1. We both need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this verification.

    2. I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. You should not worry about it. Some good appraisers include this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

    Please read this information:
    http://www.seven-forums.biz/Archive/61894705320.htm

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.
    Best regards,
    David Berman
    CEO
    _________________________________________________

    I'm quite busy. Why don't you go ahead and have the domain appraised, and deduct the cost of the appraisal from the amount you are going to pay for the domain?

    _________________________________________________

    I cannot afford to pay for each and every appraisal. I buy 30-40 domains
    every month. If I don't buy you still can use the appraisal to sell to other
    buyers. But what will I do with the appraisal if you decide to sell to
    another buyer? Please try to understand me.

    Best regards,
    David Berman
    CEO
    __________________________________________________

    Please understand this:

    I've been in this game way too long to fall for your appraisal scam. I've fully aware of all of the different alias names you use. This is well documented on namepros, and several other online forums.

    Want to keep playing?
     
  14. jamesbooth

    jamesbooth Established Member

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    Nearly fell for it!

    Same guy.
    I may offer up to 5000 usd for this domain but the final price will depend on official appraisal results. I have 75,000 usd budget for 10-12 domains. I'm also interested in
    ProFootballLessons.com
    SimplyQatar.com
    SingaporeJobs.com
    MySingapore.com
    SingaporeClubNights.com
    Vehicles4Rent.com


    How can I pay you (PayPal, Western Union, escrow.com etc.)? If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

    Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?

    Best regards,
    David Berman
    CEO
     
  15. Ivannnn

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    zusman@net​-host.org (zusman@net-host.org) 3/25/2013


    Hello!

    I'm very interested in purchasing fitnessstuttgart.com.

    I found it listed for sale.

    Please respond with a desired price for your domain in the subject line (in USD, Euros or other currency).

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Mark Zusman

    Vice President

    Best Web Hosting Net-Host
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Before we go further I will ask about two small things:

    1. We both need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this verification.

    2. I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. You should not worry about it. Some good appraisers include this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

    Please read this information:
    http://www.seven-forums.biz/Archive/49672583108.htm

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.
    Best regards,
    Mark Zusman
    Vice President

    ---------- Post added at 12:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:13 PM ----------

    If someone can tell me what to write in that GoDaddy report or has a template for those scamers I would appriciate. I want to report him but do not want to waste my time on this.
     
  16. procanic

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    I got a new name ..But same scam.

    It has been so long since I got one .. It almost fooled me until He sent the request for appraisal..

    came from - liberman(at)live-host.org

    Isaac Liberman

    CEO

    Live Web Hosting Clue Services

    I have no doubt he is on this forum.
    He asked - "Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?"
     
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  17. fballoni

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    just happened to me today.... the same guy... with me his name is "Isaac Roitman"... you can read my story here

    thank you for posting this!
     
  18. OriginalDN

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    He or someone like him is still at again. I just got one of these messages...Probably the same lame guy, new name....same codewords....'sedo' saying I know you through 'nicknames' 'appraisal' fake forum page, with link for appraisal.

    He also asks for list of your domains with prices....Before he knows your price, he will probably ask you to tell him how much you want for it.

    I will be posting specifics on this guy soon...once I know more....Until than, be careful not to get scammed.

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    Got this one today:


    Before we proceed may l ask for one thing?

    First of all, we need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale and based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this valuation.

    I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won't be a problem for you since some good appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

    Please read this information:
    http: // www .seven-forums. biz /Archive / 49672583108 .htm

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.




    Best regards,

    Jacob Friedman

    CEO
     
  19. shatner

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    Live Hosting Services LLC appraisal scam

    I was contacted by Joshua Friedman, Initially I thought wicked I’ll sell the domains. After an e-mail exchange he asked me to get the domains appraised. I did think to myself this looks doggy, but then clicked on the links he sent me and did the paypal payment for the appraisal.

    Then thank god PayPal would not process the payment as they deemed it to be a scam.

    Then I found this forum and sent the scammer Joshua Friedman an e-mail with my findings and a link to this site.

    Guess what, no reply from him.



    Hello!

    I'm interested in buying xxxxxxxxxxx.com.

    I've found it through Sedo.

    Please respond with how much you are looking for it. Just specify this price in the subject line.

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Joshua Friedman

    CEO

    Live Hosting Services LLC

    ***************************

    Ok. Great! Before we proceed may l ask for one thing?

    First of all, we need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale and based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this valuation.

    I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won't be a problem for you since some good appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

    Please read this information:
    seven-forums.biz/Archive/49672583108.htm

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.
     
  20. Organized Chaos

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    Thanks!

    Just wanted to register and thank the OP and everyone in this thread for your contributions. I was contacted a couple days ago and my research led me here.

    Here are the emails I've received and I reported them at godaddy as well.
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    Hello!

    I'm interested in buying domain_removed

    I've found it through Sedo.

    Please respond with how much you are looking for it. Just specify this price in the subject line.

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Abram Weinstein, Ph.D.

    Best Web Hosting Services

    ***************************

    CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Before we go further we need the following:

    Please send me an official appraisal (certificate of price).

    Please don't worry, it will take only 2 minutes to order it. I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won't be a problem for you since some good appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

    Without it we cannot be 100% sure in the final sale price. The appraisal will help determine the true value of your domain's worth so you can maximize profits during the sale. On the other hand, it will minimize my risks too.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless automated services I asked in the forum about reliable manual valuation/TM verification services. Please read this:
    cnet-forum[dot]biz/Archive/1639250875.htm <-- I adjusted since I cannot post links as a new member. The site doesn't appear to be malicious, just a stupid way to make it look like his scam is valid.

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Basically, it leads back to iccan.info, a domain that was registered in Feb of this year.

    Thanks again to all who shared their experiences and helped people save some $$
     
  21. amelia

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    I got this email in May, didn't fall for it...

    baumgartner@host-live.org

    May 15

    to me
    Hello!

    I'm interested in buying **name removed**com.

    I've found it through Sedo.

    Please respond with how much you are looking for it. Just specify this price in the subject line.

    If you have other names for sale please email me your list with prices.

    Regards,

    Adam Baumgartner

    CEO

    Live Hosting Services LLC

    ***************************

    CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email communication may contain private, confidential, or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the designated and/or duly authorized recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient or have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and permanently delete all copies of this email including all attachments without reading them.


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I may offer up to 500 usd but the final offer will be based on a professional valuation. I have 4500 usd budget for 12-15 domain names.

    How can I pay you (PayPal, Western Union, escrow.com etc.)? If this is your first time domain sale I may help you with the sale/transfer process.

    Are you a member of domain seller communities/forums? Probably, we know each other under some nicknames?

    Best regards,

    Adam Baumgartner


    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Before we proceed let me ask for one little thing:

    First of all, we need a valuation (appraisal of your domain made by independent experts). It will show me you are a legitimate seller and the price of your domain is reasonale and based on the last market trends. Please don't worry, it will take only 1-2 minutes to get this valuation.

    I prefer appraisal service that also verifies possible trademark infringements. It's important for me to know that your domain has no problems with trademarks. It won't be a problem for you since some good appraisers offer this option (trademark infringement verification) as a free bonus to the appraisal service.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless services I asked in the forum about reliable valuation/TM verification services.

    Please read this information:
    http://www.seven-forums.biz/Archive/38561472097.htm

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Please resend these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal.

    If the evaluation comes higher you can change your asking price. After you send me the professional evaluation via email (usually it takes one day to get the results) we'll be doing business.


    Best regards,
    Adam Baumgartner
    CEO
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2013
  22. domainicate

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    I got a similar dialogue from someone using the following info (he switched it up throughout the convo). It seemed spammy/scammy, but I figured my email is public so I had nothing to lose by hearing what he had to say.

    First, he offered me $7k over what I asked for, saying he wanted a bigger commission from his client. I told him to buy it from me for $2k and sell it to his client for $9k.

    Secondly, he told me that "the industry practice" is to provide appraisals and trademark info. I told him he was mistaken and that I have been in the business for well over a decade. As the buyer he was free to do whatever due diligence he wanted. (His reply was to make sure I didn't miss out on a deal).

    Here is his contact info (as if all of the different contact info wasn't a red flag):

    The Google searches turned up nothing for any of his contacts. He's not even smart enough to create a fake online persona.

    I compared his email to the last email I got from a lawyer looking to buy one of my legal domains. He had a full email signature with all of his contact info... image that!

    If it sounds like a scam, it probably is.

    And as the captain used to say on Hill Street Blues... HEY.... be careful out there!
     
  23. elias75

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    this came in the mail today:

    btw the domain he is "interested" was sold on ebay for 3 bucks last week!
     
  24. grahamdpa

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    Hi guys...
    Can't believe these are still going...

    Can we add Joshua Goldstein ,Vice President to the list of scammers?
    His client had an apparent $470,000 to invest in domains but didn't have the common sense or knowledge to value what he was buying himself....
    Have to wonder how he managed to get that money in the first place - or even get dressed in the mornings....anyway told him very politely to 'go away'....:)
     
  25. starsmith

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    Scam alert

    Recently got emails from a man named Michael Wasserman claiming that he is the Vice President of Investor Relations for "vpspace.com"

    After doing some research its another appraisal scam. Glad I did that research.

    Our email conversations lead to this and I immediately know it was a scam:

    Ok. Great! Before we send you the money my investor needs only one thing from you:

    As you may know all major domain brokers does not allow listing above $1000 or higher if you don't have an official appraisal. Since the sale price is not low in our case, my client needs an official certificate of price (appraisal). He also needs to know you have no trademark problems. It won't be a problem since I know an official appraiser that offers this option (trademark infringement verification) for free as a part of the appraisal service.

    I'm also interested in a good valuation and a high sale price because my client pays me a commission (10-15% of the sale price) on every domain purchase. So I'm not interested in low sales too. I will suggest you an appraiser who can give you a good value. Unfortunately, without the appraisal my client won't proceed.

    Of course, you should not use a free automated service like Estibot or similar services. My client does not accept them. I was working for Estibot and knew they were using automated scripts for free appraisals. In our case we need a real manual valuation.

    To avoid mistakes and wasting money on useless automated services I asked in Google Answers about reliable manual valuation/TM verification services. Please read this:

    The process is very easy:

    1. Go to the appraisal site and order the valuation with the TM verification. Submit your domains to them and let them know you have a buyer with $X,XXX offer so you need the appraisal near this value. After several hours you will get the results.

    2. Then send these results via email and we'll proceed with the deal. You can increase the final price by $500 to cover your time and money expenses.

    If you are new to the appraisal process I can help you with step by step instructions.

    Best regards,

    Michael Wasserman

    Vice President Investor Relations

    Cloud Hosting Portal

    Switzerland
    Basel
    Centralbahnstrasse 39
    Phone: 061 206 09 52
     

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