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How long do you work with Overture? (If you actually DO)
Do you think it really shows quality results?

Do you have a website in Top10 Google, Yahoo and MSN search results for some keyword, which is being searched a lot (if to trust Overture statistics)? Does it represent the facts?

By the way, why doesn't Overture say where it takes the data from?
 
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Obviously, overture only gets the data from the search engines it is in the same company as. Yahoo is one of them, I think.

I trust them, they've got no real reason to fabricate results...
 
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Shorty said:
Obviously, overture only gets the data from the search engines it is in the same company as. Yahoo is one of them, I think.

I trust them, they've got no real reason to fabricate results...
Where does Overture takes the data from? Where does Overture say about it by itself?
 
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Shorty said:
Obviously, overture only gets the data from the search engines it is in the same company as. Yahoo is one of them, I think.

I trust them, they've got no real reason to fabricate results...
a) they ARE yahoo - they are a yahoo company. They will get the results from yahoo most probably. There is a section of google where you can get keyword stats as well.
b) If they were to fabricate results it would put yahoo in a pretty risky position. Not only would the case of them being found out spark a fuse starting the destruction of yahoo itself, but it would make the search engine less trustworthy.
c) yahoo is the most popular site in the world. I doubt that they would fabricate the results. If they collect enough data (which obviouslly they would do) then they would have no reason to make them up.
 
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I don't really trust them. I mainly worked with expiring domains and the Overture score for a lot of domains are high, but only because other domainers begin looking at the domain's backlinks, indexed pages, and other metrics. The Overture score is up because of that. As soon as the domain is registered, the score begins to drop until it is down to zero, which only takes about a month. Because of that, I stopped carring about the Overture score.
 
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PoorDoggie said:
a) they ARE yahoo - they are a yahoo company. They will get the results from yahoo most probably. There is a section of google where you can get keyword stats as well.
b) If they were to fabricate results it would put yahoo in a pretty risky position. Not only would the case of them being found out spark a fuse starting the destruction of yahoo itself, but it would make the search engine less trustworthy.
c) yahoo is the most popular site in the world. I doubt that they would fabricate the results. If they collect enough data (which obviouslly they would do) then they would have no reason to make them up.
Do you have a website in Top10 Google, Yahoo and MSN search results for some keyword, which is being searched a lot (if to trust Overture statistics)? Does it represent the facts?
 
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We have domains/sites in the top 10 on MSN, Google, Yahoo and yes, Overture has been very accurate in the scores it shows. Overture have no reason NOT to be trusted, especially being part of Yahoo, they would tarnish there reputation aswell. Overture gets there data from searches made on Yahoo and yes you can fake OVT scores by looking up that domain a number of times in Yahoo. Overture is an automated script which just grabs the search data from Yahoo and pins it to the web.

I very much doubt that Yahoo would allow that being a direct competitor of Google.

Thank you

Sin
 
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Why you not be trusted. I had worked on one project which are now top tem in four keywrods based on jewelry related KW.
 
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For people who votes "What is it?" - Overture
 
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I never really use overture, but then again my mate does and he has a lot of sites in the top ten of google and yahoo, (not sure about msn, but then again they are rubbish). Its not all down to overture though, you have to optimise your keyword after that. It is all relative. It is not whether you trust overture or not, it is how you use the information.
 
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It's not Overture I don't trust, it's the cultlike following of Domaineers applying weight and value to domains because of OVT. More like DEvaluation.

Huge sites get little or no OVT. Small sites get alot. I've got sites that get 400 OVT one month and 100 the next. I've got sites that are #1 everywhere else showing 1000s of daily hits while OVT shows little or none sometimes.

I also take exception to the WIDE variety of backpeddling regarding OVT... on one hand, people say that a site has little or no value because it has a low OVT. Then, you produce a site with HIGH OVT and the same people say it has no value because they didn't type the extention with the domain. Then you produce a site that has high OVT with extention and the SAME people say it has no value because although it has been searched it doesn't mean people are actually GOING there.

Make up your minds!!!! Either that, or be HONEST with yourselves. Quit using OVT as a tool to demean other people's website, hopes and dreams. If YOU PERSONALLY don't like a domain name, just say so. It's not a big deal.

NamePros, for instance, has an OVT of only 42. FORTY-TWO

By most standards, the knee jerk OVT zombies would declare with complete confidence that the domain NamePros.com has almost NO value because the OVT is so low.

However... HOW many members does NP have? How many uniques and total impressions per month? I'd be curious what the Adsense earnings are for NP. I'd bet that it's sizeable.

When it's all boiled down, OVT measures how many times a word or phrase was searched at Yahoo in a Month's time. If you, as a domain owner, go to the various yahoo related search sites and typed in your own name every day, you could generate 100s of OVT results for your own site. What does that mean?

Also,the MYTH that people search with EXTENSION. I think that is completely rediculous and just another way for your competition to devaluate your domain.

I can't think of any time that I have chosen to go to a search engine to type in a complete domain rather than just type in the complete domain and go there directly. Can you?

If you want to find sites about snowmobiles, you go to GOOGLE and type Snowmobiles and then click through the resulting hits.... don't you? The variations come in what search engine you might use but MOST use Google and that alone skews the OVT results and almost nobody that wants to see any VARIETY of results will use an extention because you will get ONE site rather than them all.

So POO on those that say an domain is worthless because it is not searched with extention. That's the most STUPID way to search for anything on the internet and if those are the people hitting your site, you don't want them anyway because they are competely and totally mental.

IF you are trying to get a TRUE and HONEST read on what's being searched and what that means for your domain interests, try and think about how YOU searched for things before some "professional domain reseller" sold you this song and dance about OVT results.

You got along pretty well before... just as all the customers you hope will find YOUR site... and that was searching wide and general terms without extentions.

Moneky See, Monkey Do... that is why OVT has a cultlike following and why so many domaineers get roped into the hope and belief that they will make living (or die trying) based on OVT results why the rest of the End-User world goes on making a living selling products, goods and services from their "rediculously low OVT scoring" websites.

I believe OVT is honest in their reporting. I just think it's the interpretations that are NOT so honest.

GoPC
 
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exactlly what I am saying. You don't just look at a keyword's popularity, its what you do with that keyword, or website. I could take namepros.com and get into the top of google for the keyword "aardvark", its not all about the domain. Overture is a useful tool for looking up keywords, but not necessarily for the domain. Obviouslly, if a search engine is your only source of traffic, and you have a domain with a high searched for keyword in it, then it will help your ranking, but there is a lot more factors. Overture should be a tool for looking up keywords, not valuing a domain. Domain valuations are personal opinion.
 
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trust no one, but its pretty accurate.
 
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Sometimes yes when it allows me to perform a search and sometimes no Bcoz My IP is banned due to huge amount of queries. :D
 
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I actually am talking about Overture keyword suggestion tool.
 
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As are we :)

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