Do the double dotted (.eu.com etc) worth what?

[Genialnames]

Just a bit skeptic about the value of these extension with a double dot like .us.com eu.com and many many more etc...
What is your opinion?

 

[Badger]

youd be right to be sceptical...

All you are buying are sub domains that belong to centralnic.

IMHO they are worthless and destabilise the net

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Many a thread on centralnic domain names, but they just aren't marketable at this point in time (Barring any proof to the contrary by user "quality").
What's more, they are exponentially more risky to hold/invest in as is almost any other extension. (Not Icann governed, but their "parent" domains are)
-Allan :gl:

 

[Sam]

$0.00

 

[smub]

those are just nice subdomains .. if you get reg. price for that , you are lucky .. i would suggest if you are planning to register it don't do it

 

[Genialnames]

Oh, thanks
your comments have been very useful to me.

reps added.

 

[JoshHendo]

Most double dotted names are for countries (.com.au, .co.nz etc.). If the domain name is related to that country (like a company in that country), it could be worth a fair bit.

-Josh :tu:

 

[edwinfelix]

IMHO I'd rather register a free eu.pn at popnic.
Example:
http://www.clickbank.us.pn
free and even shorter than .eu.com

 

[gazzip]

Just a bit skeptic about the value of these extension with a double dot like .us.com eu.com and many many more etc...
What is your opinion?

I think if you are willing to take an "extra gamble" and you can get good keywords for reg fee - get a few and see what happens in the next two years. If you intend to develop a small site with adsense - go for it.

I have a few that are all parked at sedo - some of them get a small amount of traffic - but I have about 5 or 6 that receive between 50 > 100 Visitors to the Sedo Listing last month and the busiest one has had 45 Unique Visitors last month.
No offers as of yet though but I am in no hurry, they're reg'd for two years anyway. I am also in the process of developing 2 of them as non-profit sites.

I personally do not doubt that I will make reasonable money on a least 7 of them within the next two years. Sometimes it pays to go against the grain - time will tell

Sorry Badger :notme:

 

[Badger]

I personally do not doubt that I will make reasonable money on a least 7 of them within the next two years. Sometimes it pays to go against the grain - time will tell

Sorry Badger :notme:

But why bother wasting your time...

You said it all, "if you intend on building a small site with adsense" - correct because thats all they are good for..

Whats the best you can hope for with these sub (and im tempted to add here "human") domains (BS $15k sales withstanding)?

For as far as I see you get (at best) - No sales, no end users, a few intrigued passers-by visiting your parked page which just about covering your reg fee..

And you say wait 2 years.... Jeez man, the internet is only in its infancy, emerging techs come on the scene everyday, TV and the internet are fast emerging and you have broadband connections about to break in the shape of WiMax and WiBro......

And so my point is, you have all the juicy keywords available in .com and .tv that are likely and probably going to be worth a lot of money "in 2 years" and you sit here saying "i get 6 visitors here", "someone once clicked an ad once", "just wait and see" etc etc

Get with the now...

 

[gazzip]

But why bother wasting your time...

You said it all, "if you intend on building a small site with adsense" - correct because thats all they are good for..

Whats the best you can hope for with these sub (and im tempted to add here "human") domains (BS $15k sales withstanding)?

For as far as I see you get (at best) - No sales, no end users, a few intrigued passers-by visiting your parked page which just about covering your reg fee..

And you say wait 2 years.... Jeez man, the internet is only in its infancy, emerging techs come on the scene everyday, TV and the internet are fast emerging and you have broadband connections about to break in the shape of WiMax and WiBro......

And so my point is, you have all the juicy keywords available in .com and .tv that are likely and probably going to be worth a lot of money "in 2 years" and you sit here saying "i get 6 visitors here", "someone once clicked an ad once", "just wait and see" etc etc

Get with the now...

Hi Badger - I "may" be in a better position to build mini sites with them within the next two years" (for reasons I cannot explain to you at the moment)

I agree that alot of passer by's are just looking but not all my visitors are just passer by's.

annuity has had only 18 uniques (which is not alot but incidently the 3rd highest out of the 203 other annuity related domains parked at sedo in various extensions)

Invention has had 45 uniques which is also more than any of the other 264 invention related domains parked at sedo. (just how many people do you think would/could pay the minimum asking price of 1,000,500 $US for invention.com ???)

Considering they are parked and parking pages are pretty crap in general it is still more than I had expected in the first couple of months.

I do have about another 60 or so .coms - nets - info - co.in - oh, and some of those free .be's LOL that receive a "reasonable" amount of traffic.
The tech market is something I currently only have a couple of domains as most of mine are tourist - hotels - locations - property - travel - loan - phone related at the moment but I'm always looking

I do not expect to sell my subdomains straight away - in fact I would'nt want to anyway.
If I lost a couple hundred bucks on them it would'nt bother me much either to be honest - I do my best not to " sweat the small stuff " in life.

*removed*

Why do you think subdomains destabilize the web as a matter of interest ?

 

[Badger]

Why do you think subdomains destabilize the web as a matter of interest ?

article : UK.com subdomains

The benefit to the company is clear - increased sales and advertising revenue - but the system by which the redirection is carried out, called wildcard, has been criticised by the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) of Internet overseeing organisation ICANN as putting the stability of the Internet at risk.

ICANN insisted that the owner of all dotcoms (and dotnets), VeriSign, pulls its version of the wildcard system, called SiteFinder, in late 2003 when it caused widespread disturbance across the Internet as email systems and spam filters stopped working.

The resulting report by the SSAC lambasted VeriSign for introducing SiteFinder and made a series of findings and recommendations, the first being that "synthesized responses should not be introduced into top-level domains or zones that serve the public".

Despite public claims by VeriSign that it will reintroduce the system, the method - created by making changes to the underlying DNS protocols of the Internet - was expected to become effectively blacklisted.

However, while CentralNic said it had "carefully examined all the potential implications" of introducing a wildcard service, including the SiteFinder considerations, the company's CTO, Gavin Brown, told us he had not read the SSAC report and that the company did not consider itself under the same contractual constraints as VeriSign with regard to ICANN and the wider Internet community.

"Given our relatively small footprint within the DNS system compared to, for example, any gTLD or ccTLD registry, and taking advice from our registrars, we concluded that introducing a wildcard under .uk.com would not have any serious implications for the stability of the Internet," Brown told us.

The SSAC report recognised that some wildcard systems are in place on the Internet, albeit in "generally small and well-organised domains". However, it said there remained shortcomings in the approach and recommended that "existing use of synthesized responses should be phased out in TLDs or zones that serve the public... and where delegations cross organisational boundaries".

Brown told us there had only been a very few problems since it introduced the system and most of them stemmed from wrongly configured Windows boxes trying to access the "uk.com" part of the Internet, rather than, presumably ".uk"or ".com". Since CentralNic does not run an email server on the main domains it owns either, email and spam problems have also not been the issue they were with VeriSign's SiteFinder.

However, with a clear profit incentive to introducing wildcard systems, it may be that CentralNic could act as a spur to more and more companies, especially if companies remain unchallenged by ICANN.

If large segments of the Internet start turning over to wildcard systems, there is a risk of the stability of the wider Internet being put at risk. And VeriSign is bound to argue for SiteFinder's re-inclusion if dozens of other companies are seen to benefit.

ICANN would then face the impossible task of either defining which domains may or may not use wildcard, or ban the system altogether. Either way, it is not a smooth road.

 

[gazzip]

Thanks Badger, Interesting - alot of it is a bit above my head at the moment but thanks for the info - rep added

By the way Badger - If I sell one for big bucks I won't come here and say
"Ha Ha - Told you they're not worthless" - I will just sneak off and buy some more :lol:

Happy Hunting

 

[Genialnames]

wow, I am simply amazed by these last comments!Thanks.

 

[MadAboutDomains]

They are not "double dotted". What you would be buying is a Subdomain... Subdomains very specific subdomains on this kind of domain can be very valuable. (Casino.web.com sold for alot)

Good Luck

 

[quality]

I suppose Badger would leave poker.uk.com......unregged ha ha ha

I tell you what I will happily reg it for £1000!!!

 

[America First]

Just a bit skeptic about the value of these extension with a double dot like .us.com eu.com and many many more etc...
What is your opinion?

First things first....Don`t bother, follow the trend and the money. Its a HUGE GAMBLE, and one that will not pay off :imho:

Many a thread on centralnic domain names, but they just aren't marketable at this point in time (Barring any proof to the contrary by user "quality").
What's more, they are exponentially more risky to hold/invest in as is almost any other extension. (Not Icann governed, but their "parent" domains are)
-Allan :gl:

And before you believe "quality" and his post about selling 1 or 15 subdomains (im not sure what he is preech`n) for $15,000 he never gave us proof and continues to avoid easy to answer questions about his post.

But why bother wasting your time...
Get with the now...

Says it all.

I suppose Badger would leave poker.uk.com......unregged ha ha ha
I tell you what I will happily reg it for £1000!!!

Quality please don`t put your "bogus" 2cents in, as far as many of us are concerned your a fraud, your rep is weak until you prove your sale or admit a no sale..Did i just read this post right, your still regging these?

:yell: :yell: :yell: im dying over here thats soooo funny..

 

[Zeeble]

Badger, I think you totally underestimate the value of .uk.com and other Centralnic domains. But uk.com in particular. You live in the UK, so I am sure you see many companies around which use the .uk.com extension. It is a great alternative to .co.uk.

 

[quality]

Quality please don`t put your "bogus" 2cents in, as far as many of us are concerned your a fraud, your rep is weak until you prove your sale or admit a no sale..Did i just read this post right, your still regging these?



Yes Joker I live in a free country the UK and I don't need your permission
to post on this site... So you seem to know better than me about my own sale.
Yes and I will continue to reg excellent subdomains as and when I can get them
its my money and I spend it as I want thanks........

I actually think you are a bit jealous joker....you missed the subdomain stuff and
are trying to justify to yourself how you missed the boat and the good stuff...

 

[gazzip]

"First things first....Don`t bother, follow the trend and the money. Its a HUGE GAMBLE, and one that will not pay off "

A few hundred bucks is hardly a HUGE GAMBLE - IMO