.tv Do Dnjournal & Sedo have an agenda against .TV?

[virtuali]

I would like others opinions on these two platforms... is it just me or do these two have some kind of agenda against .TV. For as long as I can remember the .TV has been, and is used for media rich websites and is being marketed as such. Yet, everytime I see .TV mentioned by DNjournal it is being passed off as the country code of Tuvalu and shoved down to the bottom of the sales, granted, technically this is true.. but lets get realistic who is using this name as the country code of Tuvalu, maybe Tuvalu.tv if we are lucky... and with sedo... everyday there is auctions going on for .TV and more and more getting up there in price... yet we have sedo showcasing "ebook-store.net" for $300 instead of Web.TV for 25000Euros..???

I dont know.. maybe its just me..

Cheers.

 

[ipodxpert]

Virtuali, i think i agree with you on this. I have observed it too. Specially sedo seems to be biased against .tv extension.

Last month i had sold 3 .tv names at Sedo but none of it got reflected in Recent sales section on front page. At the same time at DnJournal.com too one of the name was mentioned at the bottom of the page,at the very last.

I sold Yosemite.tv for $1200 at Sedo last month and it was mentioned in DnJournal.com but at the bottom of the page.

Sedo never showcased the name Yosemite.tv sold for $1200 in Recent Sales section.

Similarly i have experienced the same thing while submitting my name for Traffic auctions at Moniker.I had submitted one name in .tv and moniker selected the same name to be included in the live bidding but with a different and good for nothing ext.

I maybe wrong, but even i get the same feeling that Sedo,Moniker seems to be biased towards .tv ext.

 

[Kate]

.tv is a ccTLD period...

Just because .ws is marketed as websites and .cc is sometimes marketed as 'credit cards' does not mean they should also be treated as global TLDs.

 

[virtuali]

Disagree. Period. To even compare .TV and .WS is just beyond me. I am not even going to justify that argument.

Actually.. I will... when you have .WS being taken up huge corporations and a grassroots movement talk to me about .TV and .WS.

The whole point is that .TV IS being used for this type of media extension in what is becoming masses... is .WS even in the same arena..??? edit... the same country code..?? no pun intended..

Cheers.

 

[jeffoverman]

.tv is by far much more better then .ws....

my thoughts...

the only foreign extensions i like are .de, .vc (cater to venture capital niche )

sedo went on record saying they dislike .tv.

 

[smashfactory]

i dont think ron has a thing against .tv- i think he views sales as sales, and gets all he can that can fit- nothing under 1000.00 gets listed for a cctld- i think if he did not have room for say 10 names, they would not all be .tv- they would be random-

sedo, on the other hand- that is a different story i actually emailed hugh just today asking why the spotlight on extensions like .nu and .sh????? makes no sense to me cept that i think those names come from the company that were held-

it would be a JOKE if they tried to hook up with richard and sell the premiums at those renewals-

so, sedo would have to do an open submission auction-

still waiting on hughs response

 

[Makis.TV]

6 months ago i was told by a sedo rep that .tv are not picked up for auctions because tey dont sell and because their renewal pricing is mixed up.
So i think they still think the same.

 

[jeffoverman]

thanks dottie in emailing sedo!!

 

[Sull]

sedo, on the other hand- that is a different story i actually emailed hugh just today asking why the spotlight on extensions like .nu and .sh????? makes no sense to me cept that i think those names come from the company that were held-

Could not agree more with you Smash. :bingo:

 

[TVMeltUp]

I talked with Ron @ DNJ personally at TRAFFIC New York in 2007. He has no axe to grind with .TV - he has regged quite a few .US domains. However, b/c the big boyz like Frank, Kevin & Rick and company don't think much of .TV, Ron doesn't proactively discuss the merits of .TV extension.

SEDO is a different story. Pres Tim Schumacher gave a presentation and was very openly Bearish on .TV extension - but that was in May 2007. But, things may be a changin'.

.TV is gaining traction now - and with godaddy .TV 17.99 special - .TV is gaining in acceptance and credibility. I think that special ends tonight. Does godaddy extend special?

 

[dreamscometrue]

...just relax.

TVMELTUP...

Exactly.

"B/c the big boyz like Fank, Kevin & Rick and company don't think much of .TV, Ron doesn't proactively discuss the merits of .TV extension"

...However, Commercials.TV is for sale on Kevin's site for $50,000 and Rick has said in (2) different conversations the thinks Geo .tv's are in fact viable. The Castello Brothers, CCIN.COM have mentioned .TV several times and actually said recently they think it's the 2nd best TLD.

Listen people,...it's happening, right before *everyones eyes, period. Sedo, Moniker and a few others WILL change their ways with time. It might take a while but the interest, acceptance and developments are NOT a fad, nor are they going away.

It would be foolish for anyone to stray away from their "gut" feeling at this point. Registration and renewal numbers are growing like crazy and *many, *MANY things are happening behind the scenes by major media companies worldwide. Like anything, change takes time...but rest assured the *ONLY reason they aren't pumping the TLD is because they figure ignoring it altogether would benefit them more in the short time.

People like DNTV.TV, (sold Seniors.com for $1.8 million), and several others I can not mention, ARE INVESTING IN DOT TV DOMAINS. OTHERS are HERDING MASSIVE amounts of DOT TV domain names...but surly you don't have to listen to me.

 

[jeffoverman]

Going keep saying this. The trend is your friend and were growing 50 percent growth rates in .tv and etc.

I know we have some anti demand media people here and I feel mixed on them but they are bringing awareness out and end users buying a .tv name and have there own site. Yes, we all know the format is not the greatest but things don't occure overnight.

Hawaii gets .tv, branding is getting out and more .tv awareness.

If I see a trend curve go south with .tv growth then I would be worried. But things are going up and up.

I am sure in couple years the well known demainers will realize the new future of video and keyword tv.com. Old habits are hard to break and there type in names and higher ppc rates they cut.

I like what I am seeing in .tv and I have surly learned a lot in .tv with a few my names and some of my good names I will hold on forever and hopefully get some developements off the ground.

 

[TheBulldog]

Well, can't speak for dnjournal....

For Sedo, how many auctions sales have tanked from the problems with premium names? We may think it is a dozen or so, but I imagine over the last few years, it is probably more like 100+.

Now if I was running a business, and 99% of my sales went through with no problems with confusing premium pricing, and 1% were a real pain in my ass and it took longer to complete the transaction because of this......well time is money. I would be paying my workers based on the thought that they could complete a transaction in xx number of minutes which translated into xx amount of profit per domain traded.

Now I get some country code extension that thinks it is better then all the others, so it set's up a premium pricing structure that is NOT locked. In other words, what is not premium today, may get dropped and become premium tomorrow.

I don't have a staff of people to track these insane changes, and now my productive workers are no longer producing because they are working with clients who are pissed off that they bought a $500 domain, only to find out it is $5000 a year and it is locked at enom.


I don't know, but if it was me, I wouldn't showcase an extension that costs me a dip in my profits.

Again, that is my opinion. It is not meant to imply the extension is not viable, not good, etc etc etc, it is just me looking at it from a business cost/benefit analysis perspective.

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

Well, can't speak for dnjournal....

For Sedo, how many auctions sales have tanked from the problems with premium names? We may think it is a dozen or so, but I imagine over the last few years, it is probably more like 100+.

Now if I was running a business, and 99% of my sales went through with no problems with confusing premium pricing, and 1% were a real pain in my ass and it took longer to complete the transaction because of this......well time is money. I would be paying my workers based on the thought that they could complete a transaction in xx number of minutes which translated into xx amount of profit per domain traded.

Now I get some country code extension that thinks it is better then all the others, so it set's up a premium pricing structure that is NOT locked. In other words, what is not premium today, may get dropped and become premium tomorrow.

I don't have a staff of people to track these insane changes, and now my productive workers are no longer producing because they are working with clients who are pissed off that they bought a $500 domain, only to find out it is $5000 a year and it is locked at enom.


I don't know, but if it was me, I wouldn't showcase an extension that costs me a dip in my profits.

Again, that is my opinion. It is not meant to imply the extension is not viable, not good, etc etc etc, it is just me looking at it from a business cost/benefit analysis perspective.

Very well said Bulldog.

 

[virtuali]

Bulldog.. good points.. but if I am a business man working at sedo and taking 10% of every .TV domain that sells on there I am thinking hmmm.. if I can work with this extension there is some BIG money to made quite easily and buys alot of workers hours very easily as well. The changes sedo would have to make to embrace the extension are not drastic. It took them how long just to put the premium notice up for .TV domains. Anybody that knows slightly anything about programming etc knows this is not difficult, especially with their resources. Which gets back to my point.. it seems like they dont want to embrace the ext.

 

[DnEbook]

whether they like it or not sedo need to deal with the '.tv problem they have'

 

[Makis.TV]

It took them how long just to put the premium notice up for .TV domains. Anybody that knows slightly anything about programming etc knows this is not difficult, especially with their resources. Which gets back to my point.. it seems like they dont want to embrace the ext.

ths change is s small change of plans for sedo,
they ll do more in the months to come.

 

[RPK]

Ron has always treated my .tv sales with great respect and usually posted something about them above the listings.

 

[smashfactory]

hulls pointed this out in another post- look where domainchannel.tv points to-
see, ron owns a .tv

 

[Kate]

I don't see a lot of reported .tv sales in Dnjournal. Does it have to do with the fact that they usually don't report sales < $2000 ?