"Define Legit Traffic"

[Kenny]

This is carried over from another thread...

Have at it boys and girls.

Cy

 

[Keral_Patel]

I'm going to give my take on this.
And this is only in reference to parked pages, not developed sites.

Legit Traffic
Type In
Natural Search Traffic *
Directories (Paid or Otherwise)
Links on sites (Paid or otherwise - including NP)

So according to this I can start a Directory submission campaign for my parked pages?

Can even pay them for listing and can get the free ones just for free

Thanks.

 

[mwzd]

PARKING COMPANY OWNED BY REGULAR DOMAINER WHO WILL BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE FOR REGURAL DOMAINERS!

100% revenue at Bodis.

So according to this I can start a Directory submission campaign for my parked pages?

It is unethical to submit a parked page.
I don't really know if it's illegal for parking services.
Should be though.

Directory traffic is for dropped names and the like.
You know the ones you catch at tdnam?

:hehe:

 

[Keral_Patel]

Friend you just mentioned that it is legit in above post and now you are mentioning it is unethical. So I am confused which one is your right answer. If you are suggesting that dropped domains then friend I will have to laugh on that kind of rules. Because why would a dropped domains Links will be allowed and not the links from the owned domains. Is there any logical explanation towards it.

 

[mwzd]

-Nick- I think all of us are exploring here.

Read my second post, I said imho it is unethical
am not sure about it being illegal.

Domains that were developed websites and have links because of that are more valuable than a hand reg of the same variety. That is an established fact.

Therefore anything done while it was or is a developed site helps you reap benefits of parking, but it does not make promoting/buying traffic for a parked page ethical.

Hence the differentiation.

How many people you see on NP selling 'traffic' domains, a part of which are duds with bought traffic, the person who buys them loses and that could be any one of us.

Hence illegal in my books, but then I never said I know everything...
am just trying to learn, like all the rest of us who are new to this.

 

[Keral_Patel]

Me too friend that is why this thread was started in first place I think and Kenny was knowing that this was going to be a long long thread that is why he already mentioned "Have at it boys and girls."

I also think it might not be illegal but it is unethical.

I said imho it is unethical
am not sure about it being illegal.

Domains that were developed websites and have links because of that are more valuable than a hand reg of the same variety. That is an established fact.

Therefore anything done while it was or is a developed site helps you reap benefits of parking, but it does not make promoting/buying traffic for a parked page ethical.

Hence the differentiation.

So according to this I can make 10 blogs submit them to 5000 directories each and then someday I will wake up and think I am fed up of this blogs and just park them.

Now this train is going in another direction "Pump and Dump"

 

[mwzd]

So according to this I can make 10 blogs submit them to 5000 directories each and then someday I will wake up and think I am fed up of this blogs and just park them.

Now this train is going in another direction "Pump and Dump"

So we agree on the unethical thing.

I mean if you have developed a website, promoted it sufficiently to qualify it as a valid site. And then it turns unviable for whatever reason you could park the domain and reap the benefits instead of someone else doing it.

Am by no means promoting a 'pump and dump' policy for websites, or anything else for that matter.

 

[.X.]

"Pump And Dump" , I hadn't thought about that, Excellent to bring it in to the equation -NICK-...... That method has hurt many peoples wallet, Meaning the person who purchases a name, That has been "Pumped" , I remember a sale of 51K on another forum, That method was used, The buyer lost 51K, Because after they purchased the name, The traffic stopped, That is the reason when i have inquired about a traffic name for sale, I always want to see the "Referred" url's, aswell as the region of the traffic, In my expierences, People usually stop dealing with me right there, That is a sure sign they are using the "Pump And Dump" Method.

I don't know if it is truly illegal, But is just as much of a scam as if they sold a person fraudulent goods. And i despise scammers :red:

So that is definatly an excellent point to bring into this thread.

 

[Donny]

The "pump and dump" method is one I hear about all of the time. The ones that I laugh about are the "pump and park" domains. Build up a blog for 2-3 months and then park the domain. I even saw one guy who only parked his blog on the weekends.

To me adwords traffic is legit traffic if it's going to the correct company. If you send it to a Google based parking company, it's called garbitrage and Google will kick you out and your parking company will kick you out as well. But if that traffic was going to a Yahoo based parking company, the traffic in about 85% of the cases is excepted without any problems. Natural or paid Google traffic is good traffic.

Remember not all parking companies have the same rules.

Donny

 

[.X.]

The "pump and dump" method is one I hear about all of the time. The ones that I laugh about are the "pump and park" domains. Build up a blog for 2-3 months and then park the domain. I even saw one guy who only parked his blog on the weekends.

To me adwords traffic is legit traffic if it's going to the correct company. If you send it to a Google based parking company, it's called garbitrage and Google will kick you out and your parking company will kick you out as well. But if that traffic was going to a Yahoo based parking company, the traffic in about 85% of the cases is excepted without any problems. Natural or paid Google traffic is good traffic.

Remember not all parking companies have the same rules.

Donny

Thanks for the insight Donny

So to me, It seems as competitors ..Google and Yahoo have personal issues, predominantly google having the issues,Not pertaing to the traffic, But it is the companies it comes from, In turn, Taking thier personal issues out on the domainer...Hmm...Go figure....that is just about googles style to do such a thing.

I have one quick question Donny.....Does Parked.com accept "Web Directory" Traffic to be satisfactory traffic?

 

[slim]

The "pump and dump" method is one I hear about all of the time. The ones that I laugh about are the "pump and park" domains. Build up a blog for 2-3 months and then park the domain. I even saw one guy who only parked his blog on the weekends.

To me adwords traffic is legit traffic if it's going to the correct company. If you send it to a Google based parking company, it's called garbitrage and Google will kick you out and your parking company will kick you out as well. But if that traffic was going to a Yahoo based parking company, the traffic in about 85% of the cases is excepted without any problems. Natural or paid Google traffic is good traffic.

Remember not all parking companies have the same rules.

Donny

Thank you for joining in Donny we need people like you in this thread,You as one of the executive on parking company what is your opinion for regular domainers( small size portifolio with few traffic) . which way is not illegit (may be you can not talk for all companies ) for boosting our Traffics=Clicks=revenues?
You can even give an advice if you would pls

 

[.X.]

It would be totally awesome, and extremly benificial, If Ron could put together a tarffic parking conference in the chat room, Invite reps from all parking companies to attend, Questions pertaining to how to increase your CTR and ect aren't even relevent, More like...What we can, and can not do to drive traffic to our landing pages would be the ideal topic, So we as domainers will know what parking companies we may consider to use, Based on thier answers to simple questions, It will probably never happen...Such a parking traffic conference, But it would be so benificial if it did.

 

[Donny]

Actually I'm at a parking conference in Seattle Washington right now. Yesterday I was on a panel with Domain Sponsor, Sedo, Namedrive, Revenue Direct, Active Audience, Trafficz and Fabulous. But nobody really asked us many hard questions. Each of us have our differences in opinions about how things should work, but that's what makes us all different.

I'm not really sure what type of "web directory" you are talking about, but if it's like dmoz or something like that it's normally fine. The problem comes in when a large portion of your traffic is coming from one source.

Boosting traffic at least in my opinion is the most important thing you need to do to make money. If you don't have much traffic you won't make much money. I could write a book about all of the different options to boost traffic, but many are being mentioned here all of the time.

The second most important thing that I see is relevancy. If you have a domain about cars,the keywords on the domain should be about cars not forex trading. Give them what they came looking for and you will make lots of money in the business, it may just take some time.

Donny

 

[Kenny]

Actually I'm at a parking conference in Seattle Washington right now. Yesterday I was on a panel with Domain Sponsor, Sedo, Namedrive, Revenue Direct, Active Audience, Trafficz and Fabulous. But nobody really asked us many hard questions. Each of us have our differences in opinions about how things should work, but that's what makes us all different.

I'm not really sure what type of "web directory" you are talking about, but if it's like dmoz or something like that it's normally fine. The problem comes in when a large portion of your traffic is coming from one source.

Boosting traffic at least in my opinion is the most important thing you need to do to make money. If you don't have much traffic you won't make much money. I could write a book about all of the different options to boost traffic, but many are being mentioned here all of the time.

The second most important thing that I see is relevancy. If you have a domain about cars,the keywords on the domain should be about cars not forex trading. Give them what they came looking for and you will make lots of money in the business, it may just take some time.

Donny

Donny,

Thanks for weighing in. Your input is vital to this thread.
-X- has asked a couple of times for reps from the different services to join this thread... since you are right there with them, could you ask them to at least have a look and if they feel they can contribute in any way or just give us a their companies version of "Legit Traffic" it would really clear up a lot of the mystery and may save some domainer from make a fatal (TOS wise) mistake.

Thanks,
Kenny

 

[Mark]

- Type in
- Search Engine (Not Sponsored)
- Directories
- Long term Links from Relevant Sites


Whats not legit to me :

Traffic Exchanges (Of ALL kinds - Even manual types)
I cringe over Digg/Stumble/MySpam Etc ... type traffic - It's all a joke IMO now.

 

[copper]

I am still not clear about Parked.com's TOS about using adwords.
Donny, Can I use adword to bring traffic for domains parked at Parked.com?

 

[slim]

Actually I'm at a parking conference in Seattle Washington right now. Yesterday I was on a panel with Domain Sponsor, Sedo, Namedrive, Revenue Direct, Active Audience, Trafficz and Fabulous. But nobody really asked us many hard questions. Each of us have our differences in opinions about how things should work, but that's what makes us all different.

I'm not really sure what type of "web directory" you are talking about, but if it's like dmoz or something like that it's normally fine. The problem comes in when a large portion of your traffic is coming from one source.

Boosting traffic at least in my opinion is the most important thing you need to do to make money. If you don't have much traffic you won't make much money. I could write a book about all of the different options to boost traffic, but many are being mentioned here all of the time.

The second most important thing that I see is relevancy. If you have a domain about cars,the keywords on the domain should be about cars not forex trading. Give them what they came looking for and you will make lots of money in the business, it may just take some time.

Donny

Great contribution Thank you Donny,your fast response speaks by itself how much you care your clients.

 

[Varon]

It would be totally awesome, and extremly benificial, If Ron could put together a tarffic parking conference in the chat room, Invite reps from all parking companies to attend, Questions pertaining to how to increase your CTR and ect aren't even relevent, More like...What we can, and can not do to drive traffic to our landing pages would be the ideal topic, So we as domainers will know what parking companies we may consider to use, Based on thier answers to simple questions, It will probably never happen...Such a parking traffic conference, But it would be so benificial if it did.

That is an awesome suggestion. It should help us get a clearer picture. The chat logs could later be posted as a reference guide. Would be very beneficial.

 

[Donny]

I am still not clear about Parked.com's TOS about using adwords.
Donny, Can I use adword to bring traffic for domains parked at Parked.com?

yes.

Donny

 

[copper]

yes.

Donny

TQ!
Here comes arbitrage :D

 

[Varon]

TQ!
Here comes arbitrage :D

lol.... nice going