discuss Decentralised Aviation Domain Names

[VURG]

I am investigating a first principles based argument that Decentralised Aviation (Decentralized Aviation) could lead to reduction in #WorldAviationMortalityRates by as much as 20%. If it can, this could be transformational in the Aviation industry and open Aviation domaining opportunities. As it is first principles, it is very blunt science at the moment. It is a very interesting theory.

 

[Eric Lyon]

Never heard of it, so I took a peek and found that decentralized aviation refers to an approach to air traffic management and other aviation systems that shifts control and decision-making away from a single, central authority to individual aircraft or local agents. Instead of a ground-based system dictating flight paths, aircraft can autonomously manage their own routes and resolve conflicts with other planes in real-time using peer-to-peer communication. This decentralized model is also being applied to other areas like airport taxiing and managing operational data through distributed technologies like blockchain for increased transparency and efficiency.

The correlation to the domain industry appears to be that decentralized aviation has already spurred the creation of new, specialized Web3 TLDs. For example, a new .derad TLD was launched specifically to provide secure, verifiable on-chain identities for aviation professionals and platforms operating within the Derad Network's decentralized flight tracking system.

Reference to .derad: https://www.globenewswire.com/news-...nch-derad-TLD-for-Web3-Aviation-Identity.html

Not sure if that will catch on or not, but it's interesting, non the less.

With my findings above, I think this topic would be best suited in the NON-ICANN TLD discussion section, so i'm going to report it and request it be moved there for more targeted discussion and engagement on such a decentralized topic.

I look forward you posting an update of your research

 

[Future Sensors]

Thanks for the explanation.

Yeah, let's add more vague dependencies to the critical systems and call it resilience.

 

[VURG]

My definition of #DecentralisedAviation involves replacing land based city centralised airports to skyports (airports in the sky) in a decentralised format around flight paths. From what I understand 20-30% of flight costs are lift-off related and a significant percentage of crashes and landing related. I believe that it is safer to land planes on skyports than ground-based airports and it is cheaper to launch planes from the sky. This is more based on intuitive reasoning than data based analysis.

The aviation industry is a $4trillion dollar industry and my estimates are that the fuel savings in switching to a skyport system would open the door for more than $50Billion/year in savings. I have been aware of the cost savings of a skyport system for years however, I have never thought of challenging the safety of traditional safety benefits of a traditional system. I now hold the conviction that a skyport system with modern and emerging technology has the potential to dramatically improve the safety of flight systems.

The issue is that it is counter intuitive to the average person that having airports in the sky will increase the safety of airflight. However, when pragmatically analysing flight as a worldwide system and the engineering logistics of the system, I believe that by taking planes out of the altitude transition process of flight, planes can operate a lot more effectively and alternative technology that is safer for the altitude transition process can allow for cheaper safer travel.

Now that I see a clear case for improvements in safety, I see a doorway for transitioning aviation away from the huge centralised land based airports to larger decentralised sky-based airport networks that are faster, safer and quicker ways for people to travel across the world. There is a massive amount of engineering in this transition and so I see it as a 40 year project.

I see #DecentralisedAviation as a #GatewayTechnology to build and grow sky cities.

 

[VURG]

Thanks for the explanation.

Yeah, let's add more vague dependencies to the critical systems and call it resilience.

This is not a vague claim

I am saying that #SkyAirports have the potential to be safer than #LandAirports and I am drawing a line at a 20% reduction in mortality rates. As a mathematician I take mortality rate claims as serious business.

 

[Future Sensors]

This is not a vague claim

I am saying that #SkyAirports have the potential to be safer than #LandAirports and I am drawing a line at a 20% reduction in mortality rates. As a mathematician I take mortality rate claims as serious business.

Nothing wrong with being a mathematician. But it's important to integrate different domain expertise. Could you share the feedback you've received from engineers currently working on similar systems? Their input on the practical implications, particularly concerning the stability and performance of the additional blockchain layer, would be highly beneficial for moving forward.

 

[bmugford]

My definition of #DecentralisedAviation involves replacing land based city centralised airports to skyports (airports in the sky) in a decentralised format around flight paths. From what I understand 20-30% of flight costs are lift-off related and a significant percentage of crashes and landing related. I believe that it is safer to land planes on skyports than ground-based airports and it is cheaper to launch planes from the sky. This is more based on intuitive reasoning than data based analysis.

The aviation industry is a $4trillion dollar industry and my estimates are that the fuel savings in switching to a skyport system would open the door for more than $50Billion/year in savings. I have been aware of the cost savings of a skyport system for years however, I have never thought of challenging the safety of traditional safety benefits of a traditional system. I now hold the conviction that a skyport system with modern and emerging technology has the potential to dramatically improve the safety of flight systems.

The issue is that it is counter intuitive to the average person that having airports in the sky will increase the safety of airflight. However, when pragmatically analysing flight as a worldwide system and the engineering logistics of the system, I believe that by taking planes out of the altitude transition process of flight, planes can operate a lot more effectively and alternative technology that is safer for the altitude transition process can allow for cheaper safer travel.

Now that I see a clear case for improvements in safety, I see a doorway for transitioning aviation away from the huge centralised land based airports to larger decentralised sky-based airport networks that are faster, safer and quicker ways for people to travel across the world. There is a massive amount of engineering in this transition and so I see it as a 40 year project.

I see #DecentralisedAviation as a #GatewayTechnology to build and grow sky cities.

You really have some wild ideas.

I have no idea what a "skyport" is. Are we talking like a physical airport in the sky?

What is the mechanism in physics where you are going to float massive objects in the sky?

Not to mention, at some point passengers are going to have to get to the ground somehow.

Also, I have no clue where the decentralized part comes in. That seems like a word that has lost meaning at this point.

Let's just throw decentralized in front of whatever...

Decentralized = magic.

On a side note, the world needs dreamers.

Brad

 

[Future Sensors]

Not to mention, at some point passengers are going to have to get to the ground somehow.

Why?

 

[bmugford]

Why?

Good point.

I guess, once we figure out anti-gravity tech we can all live like the Jetsons.

Honestly, air travel is already incredibly safe.

The amount of people that die a year in airplane accidents is such a tiny number.

From Google -

The number of deaths from plane crashes varies by year, with recent global figures around 100–500 per year, while a 2024 report noted 296 fatalities from commercial air transport accidents worldwide. The total number of aviation fatalities, including small aircraft and general aviation, is higher, with the Aviation Safety Network reporting 1,571 deaths in 2024

Brad

 

[Kyle Tully]

Great movie. Wake me up when we have flying airports.

 

[cooljub]

Great movie. Wake me up when we have flying airports.

I'll give you a call from Mars.

 

[VURG]

You really have some wild ideas.

I have no idea what a "skyport" is. Are we talking like a physical airport in the sky?

What is the mechanism in physics where you are going to float massive objects in the sky?

Not to mention, at some point passengers are going to have to get to the ground somehow.

Also, I have no clue where the decentralized part comes in. That seems like a word that has lost meaning at this point.

Let's just throw decentralized in front of whatever...

Decentralized = magic.

On a side note, the world needs dreamers.

Brad

Skyport = Physical airport in the sky
Use of decentralised term - Decentralising airport network away from large city based airports. Lots of smaller skyports form a decentralised network that operates more efficiently than large centralised airports.
Getting to and from the ground - I am picturing wire based elevators. There are other options.
Safety Claim - The focus is of the safety argument is a justification to address the financial savings of the Decentralised Aviation business model. What I am positioning is a case for a multi-trillion dollar makeover of the aviation industry. If there is not a safety claim, then the cost savings argument could be buried.

Future Sensors - My claim is speculative as I am using very blunt engineering and I don't have sources. A lot of engineering work is needed to validate my theory. In terms of the blockchain issues, this relates to the research by Eric on the definition of Decentralised Aviation. This definition is more accounting based. My definition is more physics based. I am open to use a different term than decentralised aviation but I do like it. I am more comfortable with the criticism of my model being speculative rather than being vague. A lot of what I do is highly speculative as I prefer to aim for the moon shot projects rather than low hanging fruit.

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I see what I am doing is a contrasting narrative to Elon Musk's approach on how to work towards a multi-planetary culture. My focus is to work towards growth through identifying cost savings in the aviation industry to move towards developing sky cities. This is what I call a more financially sustainable pathway to expand civilisation away from the land and towards space. This is a contrast to the huge debt based investment required to build a civilisation on Mars. This is also a contrast to Bezos' approach to building civilisation on the moon. I like the idea of expanding into space through investing profits through working towards developing sky city civilisations. I think that the aviation industry is taken for granted in the Astro-community as I see what I am doing is developing a #HareAndTheTortoise style argument that sky cities are a clear stepping stone towards moving technology forward. I have some ideas on how to accelerate the fundraising for the huge aviation makeover that I am pitching.

For me, unlike other entrepreneurs, I am not somebody who enjoys working with deadlines. I like the attitude of leaving some work for the next generation to work on. Hence, the stepping stone goal of mastering sky cities seems to me to better goal for humanity to focus on now rather than rushing to expand civilisation outside Earth. I see mastering sky cities as a great project for the current and emerging generations. This is where, addressing the fact that there is a mortality rate argument that this is project has long term potential to be a lot safer than people realise. This is what I have recently realised. What humanity can do today is a lot more advanced than what could be done 40 years ago. This is where I am trying to address that many of the safety threats of yesterday don't apply any more and a fresh case for building sky cities can be built.

 

[alop]

of course you can assume investigate and drift from reality...

 

[Eric Lyon]

Curious @VURG ,

1. Is there more to tie the domain industry into this decentralized aviation topic than a handshake/decentralized extension or two on the blockchain?
2. Will the blockchain domains, themselves, be assisting in the controlling of air traffic?
3. Could the decentralized aviation related websites work with an ICANN backed and protected TLD?
4. Your investigating appears to be referencing accounting and the saving of monies, but it still doesn't differentiate on how a handshake domain will save more money than an ICANN backed TLD, nor does it cover how a handshake domain would be more protected/secure than an ICANN backed domain that has clearly outlined regulations and bylaws. Could you explain that a bit more?

 

[URL Stream]

It doesn't even seem to be AI created content.

 

[bmugford]

Skyport = Physical airport in the sky

Oh, ok.

I am still not sure of the physics to make it happen.

Let's take a random airport, like Denver. The airport is 53 square miles and weighs hundreds of millions of tons.

How are you going to float that? If we have the tech to do that, then we would never be traveling in normal airplanes.

Brad

 

[VURG]

Curious @VURG ,

1. Is there more to tie the domain industry into this decentralized aviation topic than a handshake/decentralized extension or two on the blockchain?
2. Will the blockchain domains, themselves, be assisting in the controlling of air traffic?
3. Could the decentralized aviation related websites work with an ICANN backed and protected TLD?
4. Your investigating appears to be referencing accounting and the saving of monies, but it still doesn't differentiate on how a handshake domain will save more money than an ICANN backed TLD, nor does it cover how a handshake domain would be more protected/secure than an ICANN backed domain that has clearly outlined regulations and bylaws. Could you explain that a bit more?

I don't have answers for your questions. I have no interest in blockchain domains. My justification for the term decentralised has nothing to do with blockchain. I understand that other people have a different definition of decentralised aviation. That is a coincidence.

My reason for correlating this discussion with domains is that I am discussing domains of a $4trillion dollar industry.(Aviation Industry) Many people on Namepros start domain threads on industries of this size. Domains related to disruption in multi-trillion dollar industries can be flipped for a good profit. I am making a speculative pitch. I am addressing that this is what I believe as a potential 40 year makeover in the aviation industry. As I am talking big time frames, the flipping opportunity is for patient domainers who can afford to wait. This is a subpopulation of domainers that I am appealing to as transformations like this don't happen overnight. There may be a flaw in my argument for an opportunity that somebody with the right engineering knowledge can find. I am not afraid of being proven wrong. I am a fan of the space elevator dream to get low cost space exploration through space elevators and I believe that this dream has been a catalyst in seeing if applying some of these costs into the aviation industry could reduce the cost of flying across the world.

 

[Eric Lyon]

I don't have answers for your questions. I have no interest in blockchain domains. My justification for the term decentralised has nothing to do with blockchain. I understand that other people have a different definition of decentralised aviation. That is a coincidence.

My reason for correlating this discussion with domains is that I am discussing domains of a $4trillion dollar industry.(Aviation Industry) Many people on Namepros start domain threads on industries of this size. Domains related to disruption in multi-trillion dollar industries can be flipped for a good profit. I am making a speculative pitch. I am addressing that this is what I believe as a potential 40 year makeover in the aviation industry. As I am talking big time frames, the flipping opportunity is for patient domainers who can afford to wait. This is a subpopulation of domainers that I am appealing to as transformations like this don't happen overnight. There may be a flaw in my argument for an opportunity that somebody with the right engineering knowledge can find. I am not afraid of being proven wrong. I am a fan of the space elevator dream to get low cost space exploration through space elevators and I believe that this dream has been a catalyst in seeing if applying some of these costs into the aviation industry could reduce the cost of flying across the world.

So, basically, the relation to the domain industry, is simply a new niche of domains to register that mirror "Decentralized Aviation", like, BlockChainFlights.com, OnChainTransport.com, DecentralizedTaxi.com, etc...?

Just trying to understand the relation to the domain industry better. Am I on the right track now?

 

[VURG]

Something like that. I would put more emphasis on the "Sky City" like terms than the "Decentralisation" like terms. I may have picked the wrong terminology to use. I have a lot of homework to do in this so I don't want to go into too much detail to this niche ATM. I wanted to put out a thought bubble on the issue while the idea was fresh in mind. I am specifically interested in opportunities in Western Australia and seeing if this discussion will attract interest from the mining communities.

 

[VURG]

Eric, I am taking note that I am late to the game with the #DecentralisedAviation name and hence I am using the name #SkyportAviation for my model from now on.