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DAN or EFTY?

Labeled as discuss in Domain Parking and Traffic Monetization, started by DefinitelyDomains, Sep 2, 2019

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  1. legendarynames

    legendarynames Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    While I don't have statistics regarding the use of PPC landings, for my high traffic names I've always used such pages with an inquiry banner at the top. I have used all PPC systems out there and IMO Bodis is the best experience.

    Now if your names only make a few cents from PPC, don't trouble yourself going that route...
     
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  2. barybadrinath

    barybadrinath Established Member

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    Dan. They are the best in every sense.
     
  3. dande

    dande Gold & Silver VIP

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    None. Both doesn't make sense to me. I prefer selling at registrar's (Epik, Uniregistry, Godaddy) marketplaces. At worst, I sell at Sedo.
     
  4. Robin A.

    Robin A. Established Member

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    Efty for me. Importing domains, inquiries, adding logos, etc. - everything is just so easy. But I also list my domains on GD, Afternic, Sedo to get more exposure.
     
  5. namemarket

    namemarket Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Thank you so much for that valuable feedback. After reading it I fully realized (after only thinking about the issue before) by not sending most all of my traffic to ppc (which was going to landing pages) I was basically wasting the traffic to landing pages first to earn no possible ppc revenue, all for the not too likely better chance of a sale. Now instead it goes direct to good PPC pages

    As you pointed out the inquiry banner on top of the ppc page should still bring inquiries and not necessarily detract that much if at all from sales especially if the inquiry banner catches the attention of visitors and the ppc inquiry banner forwards to a very nice for-sale page (which they in fact do).

     
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  6. LLLL_Domains

    LLLL_Domains Established Member

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    I think between Efty and Dan (undeveloped) I'd go with Dan definitely, mainly because it's fast.
     
  7. biggie

    biggie Restricted (Chatroom)

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    there is no comparison, because….

    one is free to use
    and
    one you have to pay to use

    imo….
     
  8. tomcarl

    tomcarl Top Contributor VIP

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    They both have their pros/cons. Depends on the type of names.

    Personally, I prefer someone else handling the collection of payment/transferring of domain. Therefore it's easier to use DAN for that purpose, they're great for that. A lot less time, involvement and attention I have to put into the closing of the sale....less likely for things to fall through, and can leave my mood out of things :)

    Now if I'm selling a great name, a name with obvious value that I know the right buyer is going to want it sooner or later at high 4 figs - 5 figures, I'd go for dealing direct, where there's no commission, I can gather their info, and they're going to be serious so it's less likely the sale will fall through after negotiations, I'd opt for efty with these names. I want to see that contact info/I want to pay less commission with these.

    Serious names = serious buyers, usually more experience buyers, more patience for Escrow.com process/communication.

    Less serious names (Under 5K) = flaky buyers, usually less experienced with domains, leave it to pros/automated system to keep everything running/closing smoothly.

    IMO.
     
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  9. simran.net

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  10. karmaco

    karmaco Top Contributor VIP

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    Been using Efty for 2 years and am probably going to go 100% Dan shortly.

    There are too many things that don’t work for me with Efty at this point. It is good for record keeping but not great.

    Tons of spam fake offers from “verified” leads
    Insistence on using Escrow or PayPal for 2 lower tier plans (limited unsavory payment options)
    Sold names count against your portfolio number count
    Names I sold the last year I imported lead to Dan so might as well be there
    App is glitchy at times
    No substantive upgrades in a long time
    Sales and stats are in one big bucket you can’t look back to last year versus this year etc
    System requires you prove ownership when some idiot forgets to clear his portfolio( Dan has this issue too)
    Only way to get secured individual landers is Efty market
    I don’t do a store front so that’s a feature some may love but I have no use for

    I see a lot of people praising the client info aspect of Efty. Sure you get the info they put in which is 50 percent or more a fake name and throw away addy. I have had several sales there where later at Escrow/PP I saw their real name.
     
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  11. Kingslayer

    Kingslayer Top Contributor VIP

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    Never used Efty, but joined Dan a couple of weeks ago.

    Got my first offer last week, i like the whole negotiation process of Dan and how you can exchange messages back and forth instantly without waiting for messages to be approved.
     
  12. MasterOfMyDomains

    MasterOfMyDomains Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I am with @karmaco on this one. @dande hit nail on head too.
    Been using efty for 3 years. They make nice for sale landing pages, domain management is good.
    I have made sales through efty lander, payment paypal.
    However i noticed recently more inquiries coming via sedo/dan and these are .ca
    Really liked how i could add image to efty, and if i put link on face or linkedin the thumbnail would display image.
    However images are poor on mobile. I hope to get all data saved and switch my ns to epik or sedo has nice for sale page now. Last sale .ca was sedo 2 weeks ago.
    Efty has some great pro's but i would take dan, secure landers.
    Maybe people dont like/visit unsecure pages, with anti virus pop up blockers i dunno.
    Dan over efty any day.
     
  13. domainicate

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    Just found this thread while looking for a comparison of Efty and DAN as landing pages. I have used Efty and I am now switching to DAN for the following reasons:

    1. I like the standard DAN landing page. I think it is very personable by showing a company rep to the end buyer.
    2. I don't want to take time to customize an Efty landing page. I have used a few of them, and I prefer the DAN standard landing page.
    3. A horrible experience with Escrow.com for a recent Efty sale. I would rather have it all handled for me and pay the 9%.
    4. If I get a buyer through DAN, it's a win as opposed to GD/Afternic which will take 20% commission.

    I may still use the Efty dashboard for domain analytics, but I am hoping to see better results using the DAN landing pages and sales process.
     
  14. DefinitelyDomains

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    Let us know how you get on! 👍
     
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  16. sircc

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    I've been trying efty for the past few days. Frustrating is the word I'd use to describe it. Any attempt to update in bulk will result in half the changes not appearing.

    Spam? You'd think they could weed them out but the inbox fills up with the same crap from the same senders over and over again. The real problem is there is no way to bulk delete them. You have to open them up one by one.

    Domainagents has a nice feature where potential buyers need to pay a fee in order to place an offer. The money spent is applied to the sale if they buy the domain. No more tire kickers and spam is gone. I certainly hope other marketplaces follow suit.
     
  17. CobraKai

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    Interesting. Did you get spam mail before using efty? or after?
     
  18. sircc

    sircc Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Spam mail goes into your inquiries at efty. You never receive spam mail at other market places, they're filtered out. Efty sends them to you so you can verify them yourself.

    Spammers/scammers never see my email, at least I hope they don't. That would be unforgivable.

    Efty is a valid choice for sure, if you want to control every step of the sale process. One option they have is the chat. If you get a lot of real traffic to your domains (as opposed to bots), this can be quite fun. You get to engage with your visitors, which is unique in the marketplace.
     
  19. CobraKai

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    Thanks for the reply and info. That's very unfortunate as with massive spam it can make you overlook legit inquiries. I have read some other complaints with the spam issue with Efty. They should work on getting that issue resolved. The chat sounds cool!
     
  20. Samer

    Samer Top Contributor VIP

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    You have to give to get
    Commissions (5-9%) eat into margins
    For some people, saves more money
    Weigh both opportunity costs

    DAN

    One is 9% commission flat (5% if self-lead)
    No monthly fees
    Great support @DAN.COM @LaszloSchenk

    Efty
    Monthly fee subscription model tho free to try
    Zero Commissions
    Owner@Doron Vermaat Great product support

    Both deserve shout-outs.
    Both quality markets continues update product
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2020
  21. sircc

    sircc Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    @CobraKai
    The spam is separate from legit inquiries, so that's not a problem for me. What bugs me is that spammers can still use the contact form, when it's obvious they're scammers. Efty has no way of filtering them out, that's my complaint.

    My reason to give efty another try (I paid for one month), was I wanted to add an extra layer of exposure. Experience tells me, the only 2 places (that I know of) that get inventory searches are, Afternic and Sedo. The rest are placeholders.
     
  22. Doron Vermaat

    Doron Vermaat Co-founder, Efty Efty Staff PRO VIP ICA Member

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    Sorry to hear about the bad experience with Escrow.com. They are one of our payment integrations besides PayPal and Stripe but the great thing about Efty is that you can use any other provider out there to close a deal once you have reached an agreement with a buyer. We have many sellers who use Efty's landing pages for their higher value domains and once they have agreed on a price with a buyer they use a third-party to facilitate the transfer and escrow process. For example, at Dan.com you can import an agreed lead for just 5% and many Efty sellers do that instead of using Escrow.com as the process at Dan.com is a lot faster and without less friction. It's a great way to combine the best of both platforms while saving an additional 4% in commissions.

    For us at Efty, the priority is giving our sellers full access to all inquiries at any time, rather than unintentionally blocking a legit inquiry that otherwise could have resulted in a sale. For this reason, we have a "spam" folder just like Gmail offers its users. These inquiries are not emailed to you, but by going into the folder, you can see each and every one of the inquiries that were "blocked" by our spam-filter software.

    Just like with Gmail, you might find a legit inquiry from there from time to time because the sender's IP or email was previously used for spam, but the inquiry for your domain name was legit. Think about the number of legit inquiries you might miss at marketplaces that choose to only provide you with access to inquiries that they have filtered.
     
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  23. biggie

    biggie Restricted (Chatroom)

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    i don't compare free to use services, with cost to use services.

    but you, can do whatever you want

    imo..
     
  24. DNGear

    DNGear Domainnaut VIP

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    Can you add DAN checkout like escrow, paypal?
     
  25. sircc

    sircc Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Yes, I understand why you add them. Potential customers should be willing to verify their email, if they are really interested.

    At least give us the opportunity to bulk delete spam. That shouldn't be too difficult to implement.
     

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