.tv Daily .TV Drop Lists (Pending Deletes)

[MicroGuy]

Does anyone know of a good source for daily .TV drop lists?

I've been creating my own which is time consuming. It would be nice to find a site offering a daily list available for download.

 

[cityforums.com]

Oh absolutely, someone lost their mind. Because LLL.tv have always been $500 a year, if one wants to argue that $500 is a joke then that's fine. IMO that was reasonable with the min wholesale for a .com being $7000 to $8000. But now these lunatics are making LLL.tv $5000, $10,000. MGM.tv dropped obvious limited use and they made it $10,000. MGM could have regged it 8 years ago so they are not putting up $10,000. Anyone else interested has a potential UDRP unless they have a legitimate business using the acronym MGM. They are lost at Demand Media IMO, they just want the market to get better so they can go public and Rosenblatt and the VC can cash out. I have no problem with that been around that business a lot longer than domains. But they should have a clue at marketing an extension. AGAIN IMO

The Einsteins at .TV lost it when they priced their domains far greater

than what the .com sells for ... equally interesting is those domainers that

argue in their favor saying that they are only interested in developers. :cy:

 

[TheBulldog]

Hope you don't mean me......

While I have said they are going after developers, I in no way mean that to say that I am in their favor.

I personally, and this is MY OPINION ONLY, think that the premium pricing is stupid. There is no argument that will convince me otherwise.

The market should decide what is premium and what isn't. Having a company tell you their products are superior and demand a higher price when there is plenty of competition around is an elitest stupid move.

Demand media/Verisign(who the **** ever): "We think XXX.tv is premium, and price it at $70,000"
Top Level Competion: "Goody for you. XXXTV.com is $7.50 and will sell for 10 times what you are asking."

 

[Len]

Hmmmm.....I've been following a domain for three weeks and sat up at 4;00am for the last 3 nights waiting for it to drop and frantically trying to reg. It finally dropped this morning only to be snatched up by Polin.... I'm really dissapointed as I now realise I had no possibility of regging this domain anyway.
What chance do us mere mortals have in this game now that a handful hold all the cards??

 

[gutsnglory]

Yup, happened the same thing to me... its a bit frustrating
I think this guy (Polin) have a script or something?? 4h 00 minutes 00 seconds and my name was regged

 

[MicroGuy]

.. equally interesting is those domainers that argue in their favor .. :cy:

These are the folks taking the gamble that all the money they're sending to Demand Media every year for premiums will be returned when .TV domains start selling like hotcakes and fetching huge prices.

Even if that does happen, in 5 years a $1000 premium must bring $5000 to reach break even and that's only going to happen "IF" the speculator picked a great domain "AND THEN" finds an interested buyer. It is possible but so is picking the winning horse at the track. Only at the track you can get 3:1 from time to time.

The new trend seems to be, the owner (registrant arguing in favor of premium prices) figures out he's losing money, drops the domain at which time Demand Media (aka Enom, aka domain hustlers) raises the renewal and waits patiently for another pocket to pick.

 

[Steven]

Yup, happened the same thing to me... its a bit frustrating
I think this guy (Polin) have a script or something?? 4h 00 minutes 00 seconds and my name was regged

Maybe Dynadot API drop catch script. I've tried it out once or twice before. It will scan many times per second that is not humanly possible (I think) and register the name as soon as it becomes available.
There is a few scripts out there for catching dropped names.
I think one of them is tastedrop.com.

 

[MicroGuy]

Edited.

 

[equity78]

The only interested in developers is an exact Verisign line, Discussing premium pricing the person from Verisign " We do not care what domainers think, .tv is a developers extension. We do not want someone owning 500 LLL.tv like is common in .com."

Verisign bought the whole company, so like you can price your domains at whatever you like, they are doing the same.

People coming to .tv in 2007 are way behind in the timing factor compared to those from 2000 to 2006, especially in 2006 when the Golden Age took place and many here got 70 % discounts, I do not think people like Searching TV or John TV or Millers etc... would argue with premium pricing since they have made big sales and if those names were $30 avail in 2000 they would have never regged. Bottom line is if .tv was a cctld priced at $30 To $100 all the good names would have been gone in 2002.

If you don't like premium pricing great, probably best to move along go invest in another tld because premium pricing is here in .tv and not going away. The fact that this same conversation goes on and on and on and on and on, is the very definition of insanity IMO. It has been written about a million times. Because you do not like premium pricing does not mean those who do are wrong, its an opinion, and at the end of the day its a domain extension, I hope there are much more important things in peoples lives. Again IMO

 

[MicroGuy]

If you don't like premium pricing great, probably best to move along go invest in another tld because premium pricing is here in .tv and not going away.

Either that or embrace the extension and focus on domains without premium renewals.

( Agreed, this conversation gets VERY tiring. :D )

 

[equity78]

Oh right Greg, there are plenty of people including you and I that have non premium .tv that easily are better than a lot of premium .tv. That's the key finding the great names that are non premium pricing.

 

[MicroGuy]

Just to clarify, my frustration is with Enom and not premium investors, I'm sure there are many who will do well. It's the novice that jumps in and gets burned that suffers.

I must admit there's a premium domain available right now, and it's calling my name. It's hard for me to believe it's just sitting there, looking at me saying "what are you waiting for". :D

 

[gwkg]

These are the folks taking the gamble that all the money they're sending to Demand Media every year for premiums will be returned when .TV domains start selling like hotcakes and fetching huge prices.

Even if that does happen, in 5 years a $1000 premium must bring $5000 to reach break even and that's only going to happen "IF" the speculator picked a great domain "AND THEN" finds an interested buyer. It is possible but so is picking the winning horse at the track. Only at the track you can get 3:1 from time to time.

The new trend seems to be, the owner (registrant arguing in favor of premium prices) figures out he's losing money, drops the domain at which time Demand Media (aka Enom, aka domain hustlers) raises the renewal and waits patiently for another pocket to pick.

That seems to fit in line with the idea that they don't want domainers holding on to their names.

To use a previous example:

Why would they want someone holding on to Hardcore.tv trying to make a profit by a attaching a premimum on top of their premium? They priced it at $3K and that's what happened. So this time they priced it at $4500/yr to try and keep another domainer from grabbing it.

Having a middleman trying to make a profit makes it harder for them to get the domain in the hands of a company that will develop it, like Penthouse or Hustler.

 

[MicroGuy]

That seems to fit in line with the idea that they don't want domainers holding on to their names.

To use a previous example:

Why would they want someone holding on to Hardcore.tv trying to make a profit by a attaching a premimum on top of their premium? They priced it at $3K and that's what happened. So this time they priced it at $4500/yr to try and keep another domainer from grabbing it.

Having a middleman trying to make a profit makes it harder for them to get the domain in the hands of a company that will develop it, like Penthouse or Hustler.

Take a look at Channel Me and then tell me they're concerned about development. They don't care who registers a domain as long as the buyer has the premium renewal fee. IMO.

 

[equity78]

I would say Hardcore.tv was overpriced at $3000, but the fact of the matter is that Demand Media has caused this nonsense. When Demand Media was getting involved back in Dec 06, I said I did not think it was a good thing to have another middleman. Verisign already had the premium pricing but Verisign did not pay attention to a lot and had many glitches. I regged LCD.tv in 2004 for non premium pricing, there were plenty of glitches one could find like LL.tv for $400. I even pointed out glitches to Verisign sometime, did they raise the price ? NO, the guy I spoke to said that is a good price you should register it.

Demand Media came in and read the forum, spotted interest in certain names and categories and marked them up to prices Verisign never asked for. NO *** TV.tv was a premium until DEMAND MEDIA.

LLL.tv were mostly $500 under just Verisign not $3000 to $10,000 except in a couple domains priced improperly.

Verisign has its flaws absolutely but IMO it was better with just Verisign running .tv.

 

[gr8trfoo]

Anyone else interested has a potential UDRP unless they have a legitimate business using the acronym MGM.

It could be a lot worse than UDRP.

But on the brightside, one wouldn't neccesarily need to have a pre-existing business to capture and make legitimate use of a name like this. JUST DONT PARK IT ON PPC!!!

BTW, a US corporation (Oregon) can be as cheap as 50 bucks to setup. Please someone let me know if they're aware of an even cheaper jurisdiction. I love saving money.

Hmmmm.....I've been following a domain for three weeks and sat up at 4;00am for the last 3 nights waiting for it to drop and frantically trying to reg. It finally dropped this morning only to be snatched up by Polin.... I'm really dissapointed as I now realise I had no possibility of regging this domain anyway.
What chance do us mere mortals have in this game now that a handful hold all the cards??

Might as well just hang up the ol' hat, eh? At least we know that Polin has more edge than just the reverse-engineered list. At least I assume its re'd. Has anyone spotted a name dropping that WASNT on the list??


Its F**** AMAZING how similar the evolution of this extension is to .com.

 

[MicroGuy]

Demand Media came in and read the forum, spotted interest in certain names and categories and marked them up to prices Verisign never asked for. NO *** TV.tv was a premium until DEMAND MEDIA.

Right on brother. :bingo:

 

[MicroGuy]

There are some gems on the list tonight. Great service Polin. %%-