Creation of Earth

[0lgi]

Hello !

I was discussing with my classmates today about the creation of Earth and everyone had his own opinion , please what do you think ?
Do you believe in God and was He the creator of this Planet ?

What is My Opinion ?

Personally i dont believe in God , i also dont believe that weird Ev & Adam theory because then the question is how , from 2 people we are nowdays 6 billion ? You know perfectly that incest would occur (when you have relationship with your sister or cousin your children would be with problems)

So that is an absurd theory for me!

I believe everything was created by itself ! You will ask how ? Well there is a simple example , listen how it works :

Get a piece of cheese , let it for one or two months in the middle of a table and you will see that after a period of time there will be some worm-like structures! But also this theory isnt really valid as we all know that humans are multi-cellular organisms where as bacterias and worms are unicellular!

I have more to write

Olgi

 

[HHDomains]

Still, you only mention the BAD things.

What about the "hundreds of thousands" of GOOD things?

If you are going to shout the problems, why aren't you singing the praises of an "entity" that brings healthy babies into the world, that brings love and kindness to so many people, that helps cancer patients survive years after doctors predicted their death, etc. etc. etc. etc.

No offense, but your argument seems one-sided and narrow minded to me.

If this entity is all knowing and all powerful and had the ability to create the universe and the earth and mankind, why is there even any discussion of the bad things?
Why do these bad things exist when the entity has the power to prevent them?
Wouldn't the existence of a great and good power be far more believable if the bad in the world was not so evident?

 

[-db-]

If this entity is all knowing and all powerful and had the ability to create the universe and the earth and mankind, why is there even any discussion of the bad things?
Why do these bad things exist when the entity has the power to prevent them?
Wouldn't the existence of a great and good power be far more believable if the bad in the world was not so evident?

If there was no BAD in the world.... how would you know what's GOOD? :gl:

And if God wanted to hold our hands all the time, and make the world a perfect place where bad things (or challenges) never happen, then why would he put us here in the first place?

God gave people the ability to take care of themselves, and he gave our planet the ability to function as it's own force. So why would he interfere with his own creation?

 

[UnitedAffiliates.Com]

If this entity is all knowing and all powerful and had the ability to create the universe and the earth and mankind, why is there even any discussion of the bad things?
Why do these bad things exist when the entity has the power to prevent them?
Wouldn't the existence of a great and good power be far more believable if the bad in the world was not so evident?

Here's my 2 cents to your $1000.00 question. If it never

rained how would you appreciate the sunlight and vice

versa ? ... You can't have or know good unless evil existed.

Say you die in an earthquake, you still had

a longer life than the 24 hour fly. Finally, if there is an

afterlife would any of it matter ?

 

[HHDomains]

Do you not find it wrong that thousands of lives should be sacrificed just so we can see that there is good in the world?

If there were no bad in the world we would not need a comparison because we would not know the existance of evil.

To create evil in order to prove the existance of good to me would be the epitome of arrogance and vanity.

Is vanity (pride) not one of the seven deadly sins?

Would a true god really need to cause so much pain to show that there is good in the world?

If there is an afterlife, why is there a "life"?
What purpose do we serve if we are so expendible that we can be obliterated by an "act of god"?

 

[briman1970]

...at the end of the day I just cannot fathom a person's need to rely on the crutch of religion.

Faith in God or one's religion is not considered a "crutch" for the vast majority of believers. On the contrary. For the most part, when someone seeks forgiveness from their God, they know fully well who is to blame for their actions. In Christianity at least, Satan is a tempter, not a puppeteer.

The world would be a far better place if people would take responsibility for their own actions and not look for the old scape goat of "god's will" or "the devil made me do it".

Who, besides religious extremists, use these kind of statements to explain their actions?

I agree 100%. My problem with this scenario though is that tens of thousands of people are slaughtered every year in the name of a god that we can't prove exists.
Wouldn't we be better off just teaching values rather than religion?

Many people have been slaughtered and continue to be slaughtered when radicals bastardize their religion to further their search for power or wealth.

God has nothing to do with this.

Many, many lives have been saved in the name of God and religion. Religious people have helped, healed and fed millions over the course of history and continue to do so, regardless of what people think of their God.

 

[DN Tycoon]

You see no evidence of, however you believe in many other things which also provide no real evidence of it's existence either? As does everyone. Examples would be love, the mind, thoughts etc.

We all believe in love, the mind and the thoughts because we have evidence they exist....we all have these feelings and such so we all know them to be true with an exception of a small few. With God I do not know it to exist....we all do not know this for a fact as we all do not believe in God.

The lack of evidence that there is a God is extreme, in order for something to exist it has to be proven to exist. I can tell everyone that the underwear gnomes are real and I believe in them...although this is my belief unless I provide proof nobody is going to believe me. The idea of a God is a theory much like the big bang theory neither one has been proven to be true. Those who say you can not prove that God does not exists are reaching for strings in my opinion because as I mentioned in order for something to exist is has to be proven to exist otherwise we can not tell the world this thing exists without proof. The proof is in the pudding as they say and with thousands of years gone by you would figure by now we would have indisputable proof that God exists. Why do we need to go on a path in order to know God exists...why can't God just let us know he is with us so we all can know and end the constant battles we face...Like someone mentioned I am not too sure I would want to put my faith in a God who just sits back and lets innocent children die...if I was God I would be more than willing to announce myself to the world and let everyone know the only way is peace...but now I am just rambling on

 

[cityforums.com]

I am not too sure I would want to put my faith in a God who just sits back and lets innocent children die...if I was God I would be more than willing to announce myself to the world and let everyone know the only way is peace...but now I am just rambling on

Some would argue that the invisible made himself visible and did exactly

what you prescribed ... few truly believed him, though many claim to follow

him ... to all his naysayers he simply said " I'll be back "

:tri:

 

[briman1970]

On the other hand, I think we can all agree that the main value we can teach is to treat others as you would expect to be treated.
If that simple philosophy could be instilled in kids at a young age, without interjecting religion, I think we would be far better off.

How ironic that you would like a religious principle to be instilled in children as long as they take the religion out of the principle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity

 

[DN Tycoon]

How ironic that you would like a religious principle to be instilled in children as long as they take the religion out of the principle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity

I think the saying regardless of were it is from is common sense....religion has no place in school unless of course it is Sunday school. I agree with what he is saying but morals should be taught by parents not teachers.

"In order to get respect you must give respect and maintain respect..."

-me

 

[briman1970]

To create evil in order to prove the existance of good to me would be the epitome of arrogance and vanity.

Who told you God created evil?

Would a true god really need to cause so much pain to show that there is good in the world?

According to the Christian Bible, there was no evil and no pain before man created sin. Satan tempted and humans followed through. After that, all bets were off.

If there is an afterlife, why is there a "life"?
What purpose do we serve if we are so expendible that we can be obliterated by an "act of god"?

Faith doesn't require answers to questions like these. I'm afraid that the answer to such questions has eluded humans since the dawn of man and will only be answered in "the afterlife". That sucks, I know.

 

[DN Tycoon]

there was no evil and no pain before man created sin.

God created man in his own image..so if God created man then he also created evil, pain and sin. I would think these things would go hand in hand. It's funny how everything bad is blamed on man and good things are blamed on God. If man has free will and can do what he wants then why do people say God will do this or that if you do not behave....if we have free will then what is the point of a God...if man has free will then why did God shorten the life of man...so many brownie points on Gods side and so many demerits on mans side. Gods is perfect and yet what he creates is not....God is good man is bad...strange how it all seems to work.

 

[briman1970]

God created man in his own image..so if God created man then he also created evil, pain and sin. I would think these things would go hand in hand. It's funny how everything bad is blamed on man and good things are blamed on God. If man has free will and can do what he wants then why do people say God will do this or that if you do not behave....if we have free will then what is the point of a God...if man has free will then why did God shorten the life of man...so many brownie points on Gods side and so many demerits on mans side. Gods is perfect and yet what he creates is not....God is good man is bad...strange how it all seems to work.

Have you ever made a fabulous peanut butter and jelly sandwich and then, as soon as you turn your back, your two-year-old comes by and puts their grubby little hands and mouth on it? PB&J is a great creation, but when it takes a wrong turn due to the actions of another one of your great creations, it's a horrible disappointment. Of course, you still love your PB&J and decide not to throw it away. That must be exactly how God feels about man.

Hey, it's 4:00am here... cut me some slack! :zzz:

Seriously though, it's a reassuring feeling for me to know that I have faith in my creator's existence. After all, I have nothing to lose when it's all said and done. If I'm right, I'll live on and be joyful for the rest of time. If I'm wrong, I'll suffer the same fate as non-believers... eternal sleep.

Non-believers have a lot to lose IMO.

 

[DN Tycoon]

if you are wrong that God does exists only makes you a fool for putting faith into something that does not exist. IMO of course

 

[HHDomains]

How ironic that you would like a religious principle to be instilled in children as long as they take the religion out of the principle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity

There is no religion in the principal.
Just because there is a version of the "golden rule" in every religion does not mean it is exclusive to religion or the religious.

I have never in my life been a religious person yet I support the philosophy of the golden rule entirely.
We don't need religion to tell us how to act, we need out concious to.

 

[Broker]

DN tycoon, my point was you can not proove love exists. Just because you feel it. You label it love, call it love etc, but can not prove it exists because it's just a word used to describe something. Similar to God. The minute you say God you think of a seperate enity or being. Why cant we just feel love aka God as a state of being deep within ourselves instead of seperating them from who we are?

As for good and evil, who says what good and evil is? They are also just words used to label and describe something. Why cant they what you describe as such just be? Reminds me of the old saying "It is what it is"

If you sit back in complete silence with your eyes shut and push all thoughts away, what problems do you have in that momment? None because nothing exists in this momment. Just being. Everything else is an illusion of your own imagination including me. We are all one and we need to rise above our own thoughts to find our true selve. The center of the universe is not out there somewhere, its within all of us.


(Zen Buddhist)

One moon shows in every pool; in every pool, the one moon.

 

[satsdifference.com]

Sperm and Egg

Do you believe that things happen by chance or that we were loved so that life nature conditions could be perfect so that we are alive and breathing right now?!

Right now! We are alive! And can you believe it all came from a sperm and egg?

I believe there is something more than this life, otherwise we wouldn't have been set up to be alive now as we are.

Regards,

 

[DN Tycoon]

DN tycoon, my point was you can not proove love exists. Just because you feel it. You label it love, call it love etc, but can not prove it exists because it's just a word used to describe something.

You lost me here, we know love exists because we all feel it at one point or another if not everyday so that is our proof of it. The word love is just a tag to explain the feeling. You can not compare God to a feeling.....God is suppose to be a supreme beings of some sort.

Do you believe that things happen by chance or that we were loved so that life nature conditions could be perfect so that we are alive and breathing right now?!

I don't see why not, I can put more faith in science than believing some supreme power created everything....a supreme power that has no proof of it's existence.

God is Good..
Seek Him.. and you will find Him..

His WORD is true, and it doth ask us to seek Him..

God is Good!

Do you really have to post things like this...what is it with the Bible quotes. I despise when people quote the holy books...it's like me asking

"Hey have you seen Tom?"

and you answering

"Only when you search for Tom will you find out where he is?"

 

[briman1970]

if you are wrong that God does exists only makes you a fool for putting faith into something that does not exist. IMO of course

How exactly does it make me a fool if I am wrong? When I die, if I'm right, I have gained everything. If I'm wrong, I have lost nothing.

When you die, if you're right, you have lost nothing. If you're wrong, you have lost everything.

Spending time helping others, raising a family, praying, being kind and loving, being truthful and giving to charity are all promoted in my religion and by my God. Non-believers can say I'm a fool for believing, but I can tell you this... I am not wasting any time on this Earth or being foolish by simply believing in my creator and following (what I believe are) his teachings. There have been smarter and wiser men than you or I who have believed in God and done incredible things for mankind. Do you think they were fools simply because the believed in God?

 

[UnitedAffiliates.Com]

Let me ask the believers and non-believers this question.

Do you believe there is a co-relation between religion
and the G7 being the most properous countries on Earth ?

Is this an accident ?

G7 countries.

United Kingdom
United States
Canada
France
Germany
Italy
Japan



UnitedAffiliates.com

 

[HHDomains]

No.
Why would it?
How is religion even relevant?