Creation of Earth

[0lgi]

Hello !

I was discussing with my classmates today about the creation of Earth and everyone had his own opinion , please what do you think ?
Do you believe in God and was He the creator of this Planet ?

What is My Opinion ?

Personally i dont believe in God , i also dont believe that weird Ev & Adam theory because then the question is how , from 2 people we are nowdays 6 billion ? You know perfectly that incest would occur (when you have relationship with your sister or cousin your children would be with problems)

So that is an absurd theory for me!

I believe everything was created by itself ! You will ask how ? Well there is a simple example , listen how it works :

Get a piece of cheese , let it for one or two months in the middle of a table and you will see that after a period of time there will be some worm-like structures! But also this theory isnt really valid as we all know that humans are multi-cellular organisms where as bacterias and worms are unicellular!

I have more to write

Olgi

 

[Infidel]

Here's an idea that will really anger Christians (and cheer Democrats). I think that anyone who follows the teachings of Christ should not be voting. Christ teaches to take no care for the future and also teaches to not entangle yourself in the affairs of the world. By voting, isn't a person both concerning themselves with the future and involving themselves in the affairs of the world? Also, how can a person know that their vote isn't against the will of their god?

 

[-db-]

I don't talk about religion much, in fact hardly ever. Next to politics, it's the topic that creates the most amount of trouble and hard feelings between people, and not something I enjoy.

That being said...

I don't think God exists. I know he does.

And God has nothing to do with people getting killed, raped or abused. That's the work of man.

For those who haven't found the answers they seek, I don't think anybody here can help you with that. I think it's a very personal thing, and a journey you must take for yourself.

Peace.

 

[mis_chiff]

I don't talk about religion much, in fact hardly ever. Next to politics, it's the topic that creates the most amount of trouble and hard feelings between people, and not something I enjoy.

That being said...

I don't think God exists. I know he does.

And God has nothing to do with people getting killed, raped or abused. That's the work of man.

For those who haven't found the answers they seek, I don't think anybody here can help you with that. I think it's a very personal thing, and a journey you must take for yourself.

Peace.

Very well said!

And your right, God has nothing to do with the bad stuff that happens, he just keeps getting blamed for all the unanswered questions!

 

[Wanda]

Here's an idea that will really anger Christians (and cheer Democrats). I think that anyone who follows the teachings of Christ should not be voting. Christ teaches to take no care for the future and also teaches to not entangle yourself in the affairs of the world. By voting, isn't a person both concerning themselves with the future and involving themselves in the affairs of the world? Also, how can a person know that their vote isn't against the will of their god?

I am thankful to live in a country which allows me to actually vote. Many people are not so fortunate, and they are required only to submit.

 

[Dan]

http://www.discover.com/issues/nov-06/rd/life-begin-space/

Perfect timing by Digg.

 

[Infidel]

And God has nothing to do with people getting killed, raped or abused. That's the work of man.

Very true. Anyone who can't see this just doesn't want to see it.

I can think of only these American wars:
Revolutionary War
Spanish American War
Civil War
WWI
WWII
Korean War
Vietnam War
Gulf Wars

None of these had anything to do with religion.

 

[Broker]

Love and God.........


Love is a state of being. Your love is not outside, it is deep within you. You can never lose it and it cannot leave you. It is not dependent on some other body or external form. In the stillness of your presence, you can feel your own formless and timeless reality as the unmanifested life that animates your physical form. You can then feel the same life deep within every other human and creature. You look beyond the veil of form and seperation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love.

What is God? The eternal one life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that one life deep within yourself and within all living creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

God is a state of being itself, not a being.


The Power Of Now page 155

Well said I must say so myself! :tri:

PS- I used to be a christian til I read this book :gl:

 

[HHDomains]

Sorry, but this is just too pathetic.

Your blind faith in an irrelevant and unproven "god" is sad to say the least.
I can understand some arguments but the cop out that god is great and all bad is the creation of man is just pathetic.

I'm out on this one. You guys need help.

 

[-db-]

Sorry, but this is just too pathetic.

Your blind faith in an irrelevant and unproven "god" is sad to say the least.
I can understand some arguments but the cop out that god is great and all bad is the creation of man is just pathetic.

I'm out on this one. You guys need help.

May God bless you, and forgive your rudeness.

 

[Infidel]

So an atheist and a creationist look around at this world and how it works. They see beauty, life, laws, detail, and unimaginable sophistication. They see things that humans can never hope to copy. They see perfection basically. They both have to agree that something made it happen. The atheist believes it was random occurence. The creationist believes it was planned design. Why is it always the atheist calling the creationist stupid? The atheist says you have to take a "leap of faith" to believe in a creator that you've never seen. But the atheist is totally comfortable in his faith that perfection can arise from some random event that he can't really describe. Honestly, who is taking the real "leap of faith"?

 

[UnitedAffiliates.Com]

I like this one.

Nietzsche: " God is dead "
God: " Nietzsche is dead "



UnitedAffiliates.com

 

[gamehouse]

Wow, nice post. To add to it, If I may, the atheist does not seem to have any idea which that something made that possible. At least the creationist has some thing, though not proved, to depend on.

GH

So an atheist and a creationist look around at this world and how it works. They see beauty, life, laws, detail, and unimaginable sophistication. They see things that humans can never hope to copy. They see perfection basically. They both have to agree that something made it happen. The atheist believes it was random occurence. The creationist believes it was planned design. Why is it always the atheist calling the creationist stupid? The atheist says you have to take a "leap of faith" to believe in a creator that you've never seen. But the atheist is totally comfortable in his faith that perfection can arise from some random event that he can't really describe. Honestly, who is taking the real "leap of faith"?

 

[0lgi]

There is something , maybe God exists and may He created our world but i dont believe in the religions that are saying different things without any facts !

I opened the same thread as here but in a Muslim Forum , and i got this reply :

I pray to god even when i have little problems. Once I lost my keys and after i prayed i found the mimediately, when i am at school (now high school ) I pray for a good day, for no bad marks and stuff like that. I have a very strong relationship with God. You may say i am crazy, but that's how I feel.

I totally disagree with this post ! I dont think God moved the keys in a place so you could see them , or i dont think you will not get any bad marks if you dont study ! You are the God of Yourself , you create your way of living , If you want to study , you can study ! Try this one , pray everyday and dont study at all and lets see the result

Sincerely

Olgi

 

[Infidel]

I think you're right. Believing in a God who is involved in every little aspect of our lives really takes away from the ideas of free will and personal responsibility.

I think it's eaiser to believe in a creator if you don't confuse the idea with religion. Many people are probably atheists because they are so against organized religion. I don't think you have to agree with one in order to believe in the other.

 

[gamehouse]

Very good point. I am glad that you understood a tough concept. But then leave others to their beliefs. Well, God's existence is felt by people when they do everything in their capacity in adverse situations and needed that last and strong help. I guess you would agree praying to God and taking His help there.

Now, lower the level, and some people are a bit weak and they pray for everything, right from finding keys and exams. Its that simple. As I said in my previous post, questioning any kind of faith is dead easy. But faith is always faith, some times can not be explained in words, how ever intelligent the listener is.

GH

I totally disagree with this post ! I dont think God moved the keys in a place so you could see them , or i dont think you will not get any bad marks if you dont study ! You are the God of Yourself , you create your way of living , If you want to study , you can study ! Try this one , pray everyday and dont study at all and lets see the result

Sincerely

Olgi

 

[Infidel]

I haven't researched it but I think it's well documented that when diagnosed with Cancer, people of faith have a much better survival rate than others.

My opinion is not that God plays a role in their survival but rather that their faith plays a role. I believe the human body and mind has unknown potential and faith helps a person to tap into that potential. When people pray to God for strength to endure something, it's not God actually giving them more strength but their faith allowing them to tap into a strength that was already there. But I'm sure some (including my mother) would disagree.

 

[DN Tycoon]

Wow, nice post. To add to it, If I may, the atheist does not seem to have any idea which that something made that possible. At least the creationist has some thing, though not proved, to depend on.

GH

I depend and believe in myself and do not need a entity to help me get through situations. I do not believe in God and at the same time I do not dismiss the idea. Some people would call me an Atheist because of my beliefs and I say I am no Atheist I am a man who believes in himself and needs no crutch (no offense to anyone). I think the whole notion of God is a good thing and a bad thing..on one hand belief in God much like placebos can do wondrous things for people as mentioned before we do not know what we are capable of doing as humans and the brain/body is a powerful thing. The bad side is the belief in God leads people down a road of false hopes that can in some people lead to suicide..lost hope....loss of faith in others and so on.

As human beings we create things out of want...wanting to feel safe, secure, being taken care of and purpose in life. The idea of being here scares some people because they can not explain why they are here and so the idea of God fills this empty void. Like I said in my last post nobody truly knows the truth of our existence and the universe was made...even when people say "I know God exists" I believe this is just false hope and although they might think God is real they truly do not know. If God was real we would all believe it to be true....religion has a funny way of covering all the bases and dancing around the questions. The Bible is a good read and it clearly proves both sides of the scale that God does or does not exist.

 

[briman1970]

Sorry, but this is just too pathetic.

Your blind faith in an irrelevant and unproven "god" is sad to say the least.
I can understand some arguments but the cop out that god is great and all bad is the creation of man is just pathetic.

I'm out on this one. You guys need help.

What a weird statement. Human individuality and free will, indeed human nature, is the cause of all evil. Whether or not you believe God exists, who the hell else do we have to pin all the bad stuff on?

Whether or not there is a Satan, who is responsible when we stab our neighbor to death, fart on our spouse (hehe) or run over a kitten?

What is God? The eternal one life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that one life deep within yourself and within all living creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

God is a state of being itself, not a being.

The Power Of Now page 155

What a bunch of tree-hugging hippy crap.

 

[kev]

i have studied a module at university this semester (Evolution and Biodiversity) and i do believe the earth was created about 4.6 billion years ago via the big bang theory. there is fossil evidence of unicellular organisms as far back as 3 billion years ago and eukaryotes from 575 million years ago.

For more recent fossils, they use a technique called radio-carbon dating (detects age of fossils up to 60,000 years old) and it produces conclusive evidence of existence of animals,plants,bacteria etc...from that time span.

According to a christian scientist (his name eludes me), the earth was created in 4004 BC (6010 years ago) with the adam and eve theory. im afraid fossil evidence and a number of other aspects prove that this is not true

Just mho

 

[HHDomains]

What a weird statement. Human individuality and free will, indeed human nature, is the cause of all evil. Whether or not you believe God exists, who the hell else do we have to pin all the bad stuff on?

Whether or not there is a Satan, who is responsible when we stab our neighbor to death, fart on our spouse (hehe) or run over a kitten?

What a bunch of tree-hugging hippy crap.

This is exactly my point.
Evil is a man made occurrence.
So is good.

Men do good things and bad things. It is absurd to suggest that all good is the work of some god and that evil is the work of man.

If god only does good and man only does evil then where was god in:

December of 2004 when 200,000 people died in a tsunami?
August of 2005 when hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans?
November of 1985 when a volcano killed 25,000 people in Colombia?
July of 1976 when an earthquake killed 500,000 in Tangshan, China?

These certainly were not man made occurences.