.tv Count your Me.TV blessings

[eyedomainous]

Everytime I read that me.tv was down I checked my site and it was up. But even if my me.tv sites were down... as they were once before -a few weeks back, it does not concern me much, at this point, because I see Me.TV as gravy... for .tv domainers.

Consider how things were before...
--Verisign offered No Free sites with regs. (never getting it up is far worse than getting-it-up 95% of the time).

--Verisign charged twice as much for non-premiums... which are 99% of the market.

--Verisgn never had a VP on this board to "answer questions".

--Hell, Verisign Never had a .TV "marketing plan" to complain about.

--Last year we did not see a 100% growth in .TV sales. Enom took over the .TV extension a year ago and we have seen a 100% growth in new .TV regs and the hottest .TV aftermarket sales ever! Yet, some complain that there is no marketing plan and Me.Tv gotta get their act together. Wow!

Also, keep in mind that this is the summer season... the traditional 'slow season' for TV viewing. TV networks run re-runs during th summer and do not launch major marketing campains until the onset of fall.

Is it possible to count our blessings even if all our prayers are not answered in the order and on the timeline we would like?

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

I was about to put up my own post, but then I saw this so I will second this thread, with an even stronger position

Personally I am disgusted and cant help but laugh at the people in this forum whining and complaining about this start up venture that Demand Media has brilliantly put together in such a short time.

Let I remind the whinny people on here that these tools were just released on May 1st 2007, and it has not even been two months yet, and we have already seen a few small updates. Let me also remind people that it was stated that the first stage of revenue sharing will most likely be out it sometime in Aug/sept/fall 2007.

For those of you who have never run a real business, and sit out here in cyberspace with your one and two man "investment" organizations, Demand Media is an actually company which has already been funded by millions of dollars. There are business time lines in place you all know nothing about, and last time I checked, when I signed up to Name Pro's, there was no disclamer telling me that I had a right to know every single move the company made as they were making it.

At this point, we are lucky that Richard Rosenblatt even lets Quinn post here, the way you people act, like you have some sort of major stock in the company and are involved in executive decisions.

Another thing I can let people know about is that in the real world there are problems. Servers crash, programmers quit, software malfunctions, deals gets stalled, etc...

We are in .TV Beta right now, things are just starting.

So Please relax.

Thankyou to Demand Media for pushing this new extension, we are greatful.


p.s., anyone notice how NamePros keeps going down and jamming from time to time?

Life, its one big problem LOL

 

[Vimal]

I was thinking about it to - too many people are whinning too many times..

Well we dint have demand media or me.tv last year this time, but we still were happy with our investments. Me.TV is just another company working for the growth of .TV. I really apreciate them taking time to answer our questions. I dont think any company would ever put their complete plans ahead of time. Atleast me.tv is putting lots of effort to cope up with us. Me.TV is just starting give it time, not 1 month, but a whole year. Any business atleast needs 1 whole year to flourish ?

They are doing the best..i used to get 100 views per day for map.tv when parked with namedrive, now i get 2000 views a day. When the ads will come, and they will sometime, I am sure its worth the wait. I am happy with their overall performance. A few hicups do happen with any business.

 

[StoneRoses]

:bingo:

Rome wasn't built in a day , give them a chance to get their teething problems sorted out.

Nothing else to say that Mindwrecker, Eyedomains and Vimal have not already said.

 

[RogueWriter]

This is one of the first times that I can comfortably say that I feel I am in the right place at the right time. I have great, great keywords, and having DM bringing out tools, well, there is only upside for us, IMO.

JMO, but they have so much money involved in this, something great is coming along, and shortly.

 

[MillersCrossing]

The one thing that keeps telling me that this will all work out just fine is Richards angle on ME.TV....Would he touch it with a barge pole if he thought it would fail or had a very strong chance that it would fail???

Headlines - RICHARD ROSENBLATT LOSES THE MIDAS TOUCH....

Getting IPO for any business he is involved with after this becomes a process as opposed to auto pilot like it is right now.......

SO i think he foresees the teething problems. Perhaps what he did not forsee is the overwhelming passsion people on this board have for the .tv extension. For Richard it is a business like any other, for everyone or most of us on NP, it is a business & a PASSSION.....perhaps that is something Richard overlooked and is coming to understand ONLY now exactly whom he is dealing with as clients and interested /zealous parties....

I hope ME.TV is an overwhelming success, it will line our pockets automatically, in many different ways and as Claude said , and as I will improvise in the sprit of poker legend Johnny Chan, "its gravy baby!!!!"

But I will not put all my eggs in one basket,......there are alot of things we can do besides whine...

WE CAN

1. Get on with the development of our own websites outside of Me.TV
2. Use the down time of ME.Tv to work on completing a library of your absolute favorite videos to add to your site when it is back and running
3. Network
4. Join organisatioins that promote .tv
5. Sell some of your .tv stock

Thee is plenty for us to be getting on with.

Here is what I am doing.

I have invested in broadcasting equipment that will give me my own radio broadcast capabilities over the net. A sizeable investment but it was based on good feedback from my interview with Jeremy P and Jeremy Allaire that got me thinking about it.

So I spoke to a friend imade on this board ( Item number 3) and he told me about what is out there and I have gone for it...........

Tonight an audio technicion is coming to my house to run me through the final bits and pieces I need to make this think all work to gether....and I dont yet know which website yet I will be using this equipment for mainly......but it doesnt matter yet...cause I am still using my time wisely........what I do with it is the next stage....right now I am just excited about what the oppurtunity represents......

Think positive guys......it need not be all doom and gloom

 

[MrRhee]

Hmmm. It's sad that some of you are giving ME.TV an all-access pass to make any mistakes they wish to make or accusing your fellow domainers of "WHINING" when there are serious questions or issues that need to be addressed.

When one of my sites goes down unscheduled, I am losing money somewhere in the equation. Even if the site itself does not appear to generate revenue at first glance, what is the "cost" of promoting a site that isn't there when users are looking for it. Do you think that user will ever come back? Do you get your promo dollars back?

For all of you out there telling us not to worry, or that ME.TV is still in BETA, keep in mind, that the team behind ME.TV is not your average startup, they are well-funded, battle-tested and have done this cookie-cutter venture before with MYSPACE. correct? So it would lead me to believe that they are well aware what to expect and prepare for when launching a site of this magnitude. Now, keep in mind, we are married to them in one way or another, whether you're building on the ME.TV platform (using their nameservers and only their registrar) or have invested in premiums that can only be managed at their Exclusive registrar. Many of us have a vested interest in seeing this work and I personally don't appreciate other domainers trying to decide what's important or not important, what to worry about, or "answer for"/"gloss over" when ME.TV has an issue that needs resolving. It's great if you support them with your posts, but make no mistake, I also support them, I've spent over 6 figures investing in domains itself and another 6 figures in development to hopefully be a pivotal part of their future ecosystem... so yes, I do support them, we've all invested money, so please refrain from speaking for us or glossing over major errors by saying "Everything will be okay". The only way for ME.TV & DEMAND MEDIA to understand that we want to build on their platform if it is "STABLE & VIABLE" is to let them know that we "care"... I don't consider that "WHINING".


When my ME.TV hosted sites go down, "some of us" lose money &/or sleep.
When ME.TV itself goes down, "some of us" slowly lose faith in them and their vision.

If too many of us begin to lose faith, then there will be a massive exodus off of the ME.TV platform/network onto the many clones (or custom solutions) that have recently launched. If sites start leaving ME.TV faster than they've been joining ME.TV...

...That's something for "all of us" to be worried about.

/rant

 

[MillersCrossing]

Hmmm. It's sad that some of you are giving ME.TV an all-access pass to make any mistakes they wish to make or accusing your fellow domainers of "WHINING" when there are serious questions or issues that need to be addressed.

When one of my sites goes down unscheduled, I am losing money somewhere in the equation. Even if the site itself does not appear to generate revenue at first glance, what is the "cost" of promoting a site that isn't there when users are looking for it. Do you think that user will ever come back? Do you get your promo dollars back?

For all of you out there telling us not to worry, or that ME.TV is still in BETA, keep in mind, that the team behind ME.TV is not your average startup, they are well-funded, battle-tested and have done this cookie-cutter venture before with MYSPACE. correct? So it would lead me to believe that they are well aware what to expect and prepare for when launching a site of this magnitude. Now, keep in mind, we are married to them in one way or another, whether you're building on the ME.TV platform (using their nameservers and only their registrar) or have invested in premiums that can only be managed at their Exclusive registrar. Many of us have a vested interest in seeing this work and I personally don't appreciate other domainers trying to decide what's important or not important, what to worry about, or "answer for"/"gloss over" when ME.TV has an issue that needs resolving. It's great if you support them with your posts, but make no mistake, I also support them, I've spent over 6 figures investing in domains itself and another 6 figures in development to hopefully be a pivotal part of their future ecosystem... so yes, I do support them, we've all invested money, so please refrain from speaking for us or glossing over major errors by saying "Everything will be okay". The only way for ME.TV & DEMAND MEDIA to understand that we want to build on their platform if it is "STABLE & VIABLE" is to let them know that we "care"... I don't consider that "WHINING".


When my ME.TV hosted sites go down, "some of us" lose money &/or sleep.
When ME.TV itself goes down, "some of us" slowly lose faith in them and their vision.

If too many of us begin to lose faith, then there will be a massive exodus off of the ME.TV platform/network onto the many clones (or custom solutions) that have recently launched. If sites start leaving ME.TV faster than they've been joining ME.TV...

...That's something for "all of us" to be worried about.

/rant

Mr Rhee,

Please do not take my remarks as a reference to you at all.....my remarks are to those who just enjoy slamming me.tv for the sake of it ,.....I have said myself that there is alot wrong going on..........but for those who have not got any exposure or very little exposure to me.tv there is other things that they can be doing...you Sir, are a different story alltogether.....

Most certainly not a whiner!

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

Do you people have anything better to do then to try and turn this into another Me.TV flame thread?

Whats the problem? Whats the rub against Demand Media? The tools have only been out 6-7 weeks, they are just getting started.

Or is this more about the premium pricing and verisign, and this ME.TV thing is being used as an axe to grind out elsewhere?

 

[RogueWriter]

1. Get on with the development of our own websites outside of Me.TV

Am working diligently towards the launching of AffiliateMarketing.tv , I think it might just cause a few ripples, if things work out well.

 

[MrRhee]

Do you people have anything better to do then to try and turn this into another Me.TV flame thread?

Whats the problem? Whats the rub against Demand Media? The tools have only been out 6-7 weeks, they are just getting started.

Or is this more about the premium pricing and verisign, and this ME.TV thing is being used as an axe to grind out elsewhere?

WOW. it is painfully obvious that you and I will never see eye-to-eye.

Who appointed you "DEFENDER of ME.TV"?
Did I mention anything about premium pricing in my post? I notice that you are hosting your own site, correct? For those of us hosting with ME.TV, and in my case in particular, it was a decision that was initially hard to make, met with much resistance from my partners and tech staff... who warned me to stay on our own platform and build out our own sites like Ripe.TV, Flow.TV, LX.TV, etc... I was the one who championed ME.TV to them and investors, sponsors and partners... and said let's get in early and join their network in order to add some compelling content and unique business models. I told people that the TEAM behind ME.TV has done this before successfully and it looks like they are doing it again. Why not be part of something larger than ourselves and help promote .TV, other ME.TV sites, and grow together...

when my partners & sponsors tuned in Monday morning to my sites: DEAD.
When they went to look at ME.TV's own site: DEAD.

both sites featured a WHOOPS page. in fact, the URL itself read "WHOOPS".
not an "under maintenance", "upgrade", or... anything like that, just WHOOPS. LOL.

Not that anyone else cares, but in my opinion, every site added to the ME.TV network and listed in the directory makes ME.TV stronger, we even planned on adding most of our premiums to the ME.TV network (100+ sites), even though some domainers think it unwise or foolish to use a premium .TV on Me. TV ("If you're paying premium, why go with a free host?"), but I don't think so. It only adds value to the keiretsu if premium domain owners are part of the ecosystem. It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of "community" and wanting to network with others on a safe, secure, reliable platform.

But more and more, it looks like the sites I mentioned earlier are doing it right:
http://Flow.TV
http://Ripe.TV
http://LX.TV
etc...

and going at it alone.

I just felt disgusted when my newest partners across the USA tune into ME.TV, a company I've been praising and putting my name on the line for... and they see a WHOOPS page. I won't be making the same mistake again unless ME.TV bulks up their backend, or hires more/better technicians.

/imho

 

[dpari]

Amen Brother!

(never getting it up is far worse than getting-it-up 95% of the time).

Everytime I read that me.tv was down I checked my site and it was up. But even if my me.tv sites were down... as they were once before -a few weeks back, it does not concern me much, at this point, because I see Me.TV as gravy... for .tv domainers.

Consider how things were before...
--Verisign offered No Free sites with regs. (never getting it up is far worse than getting-it-up 95% of the time).

--Verisign charged twice as much for non-premiums... which are 99% of the market.

--Verisgn never had a VP on this board to "answer questions".

--Hell, Verisign Never had a .TV "marketing plan" to complain about.

--Last year we did not see a 100% growth in .TV sales. Enom took over the .TV extension a year ago and we have seen a 100% growth in new .TV regs and the hottest .TV aftermarket sales ever! Yet, some complain that there is no marketing plan and Me.Tv gotta get their act together. Wow!

Also, keep in mind that this is the summer season... the traditional 'slow season' for TV viewing. TV networks run re-runs during th summer and do not launch major marketing campains until the onset of fall.

Is it possible to count our blessings even if all our prayers are not answered in the order and on the timeline we would like?

 

[Vimal]

WOW. it is painfully obvious that you and I will never see eye-to-eye.

Who appointed you "DEFENDER of ME.TV"?
Did I mention anything about premium pricing in my post? I notice that you are hosting your own site, correct? For those of us hosting with ME.TV, and in my case in particular, it was a decision that was initially hard to make, met with much resistance from my partners and tech staff... who warned me to stay on our own platform and build out our own sites like Ripe.TV, Flow.TV, LX.TV, etc... I was the one who championed ME.TV to them and investors, sponsors and partners... and said let's get in early and join their network in order to add some compelling content and unique business models. I told people that the TEAM behind ME.TV has done this before successfully and it looks like they are doing it again. Why not be part of something larger than ourselves and help promote .TV, other ME.TV sites, and grow together...

when my partners & sponsors tuned in Monday morning to my sites: DEAD.
When they went to look at ME.TV's own site: DEAD.

both sites featured a WHOOPS page. in fact, the URL itself read "WHOOPS".
not an "under maintenance", "upgrade", or... anything like that, just WHOOPS. LOL.

Not that anyone else cares, but in my opinion, every site added to the ME.TV network and listed in the directory makes ME.TV stronger, we even planned on adding most of our premiums to the ME.TV network (100+ sites), even though some domainers think it unwise or foolish to use a premium .TV on Me. TV ("If you're paying premium, why go with a free host?"), but I don't think so. It only adds value to the keiretsu if premium domain owners are part of the ecosystem. It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of "community" and wanting to network with others on a safe, secure, reliable platform.

But more and more, it looks like the sites I mentioned earlier are doing it right:
http://Flow.TV
http://Ripe.TV
http://LX.TV
etc...

and going at it alone.

I just felt disgusted when my newest partners across the USA tune into ME.TV, a company I've been praising and putting my name on the line for... and they see a WHOOPS page. I won't be making the same mistake again unless ME.TV bulks up their backend, or hires more/better technicians.

/imho

We understand your concern. This is just a thread to see the positives of me.Tv. Yes it was down. I am sure they just dint switch the server off. Now they are in this to make money and business, sometimes unforeseen things do happen. All that we are trying to say is every industry has starting problems. So before we start marketing our names aggresively, I think we should first be confirmed that the system is going to work 24/7.

Well for people who dont like me.tv, just dont go with them. You dint buy your .TV to be with them.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Do you people have anything better to do then to try and turn this into another Me.TV flame thread?

Whats the problem? Whats the rub against Demand Media? The tools have only been out 6-7 weeks, they are just getting started.

Or is this more about the premium pricing and verisign, and this ME.TV thing is being used as an axe to grind out elsewhere?

I agree 100%. My Abstracts.tv has had over 4700 views in less than a month. I think that's pretty good. I am happy. Sure, I want ads to make money. But, the way I see it, I am not ready either. I need to fine tune, and make Abstracts.tv even better. So, while "they are fine tuning", and getting the bugs out, so will I.
IMHO
Frank

 

[brainstormTV]

I agree 100%. My Abstracts.tv has had over 4700 views in less than a month. I think that's pretty good. I am happy. Sure, I want ads to make money. But, the way I see it, I am not ready either. I need to fine tune, and make Abstracts.tv even better. So, while "they are fine tuning", and getting the bugs out, so will I.
IMHO
Frank

Hey Knarf, I noticed when I use the "movie trailer videos" tag on abstracts.tv it shows me a bunch of music videos, but nothing to do with any movies. What gives? Is this intentional, or in need of some of that "fine tuning" you were talking about ?

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Hey Knarf, I noticed when I use the "movie trailer videos" tag on abstracts.tv it shows me a bunch of music videos, but nothing to do with any movies. What gives? Is this intentional, or in need of some of that "fine tuning" you were talking about ?

Yeah, real fine tuning. Ha!

frank

 

[StargateCapital]

I wonder if the downtime / errors / sloppiness of the me.tv rollout isn't just part of the overall DM plan. (Personally, I don't use it - I just park my names for now.) "Competitors" have popped up to "reinvent/improve" the me.tv platform and soon, me.tv won't have to do a thing as the "competitors" will do all the work creating many improved platforms for .TVers. Doesn't me.tv just look like a slightly modified Myspace clone? What is really so special about it? IMO, its a neat tool for people that don't have any technical skills as it allows them to have many features instantly for a decent looking starter site.

Why work tediously on a vanilla platform when others are building many different flavors of that same platform for free? Ingenious if you ask me.

CCD

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

WOW. it is painfully obvious that you and I will never see eye-to-eye.

Who appointed you "DEFENDER of ME.TV"?
Did I mention anything about premium pricing in my post? I notice that you are hosting your own site, correct? For those of us hosting with ME.TV, and in my case in particular, it was a decision that was initially hard to make, met with much resistance from my partners and tech staff... who warned me to stay on our own platform and build out our own sites like Ripe.TV, Flow.TV, LX.TV, etc... I was the one who championed ME.TV to them and investors, sponsors and partners... and said let's get in early and join their network in order to add some compelling content and unique business models. I told people that the TEAM behind ME.TV has done this before successfully and it looks like they are doing it again. Why not be part of something larger than ourselves and help promote .TV, other ME.TV sites, and grow together...

when my partners & sponsors tuned in Monday morning to my sites: DEAD.
When they went to look at ME.TV's own site: DEAD.

both sites featured a WHOOPS page. in fact, the URL itself read "WHOOPS".
not an "under maintenance", "upgrade", or... anything like that, just WHOOPS. LOL.

Not that anyone else cares, but in my opinion, every site added to the ME.TV network and listed in the directory makes ME.TV stronger, we even planned on adding most of our premiums to the ME.TV network (100+ sites), even though some domainers think it unwise or foolish to use a premium .TV on Me. TV ("If you're paying premium, why go with a free host?"), but I don't think so. It only adds value to the keiretsu if premium domain owners are part of the ecosystem. It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of "community" and wanting to network with others on a safe, secure, reliable platform.

But more and more, it looks like the sites I mentioned earlier are doing it right:
http://Flow.TV
http://Ripe.TV
http://LX.TV
etc...

and going at it alone.

I just felt disgusted when my newest partners across the USA tune into ME.TV, a company I've been praising and putting my name on the line for... and they see a WHOOPS page. I won't be making the same mistake again unless ME.TV bulks up their backend, or hires more/better technicians.

/imho

Well good luck with your sites, but in case you did not read this post, the argument here is that DEMAND MEDIA has just opened the doors, and really is just in BETA test, so people should relax and chill out.

Show me a legitimate firm which is not making changes at the beginning of start up, we have not even gotten through the first quarter of the tools.

Nobody appointed me to anything, I just understand what is going on and find the attacks made towards Demand Media as well as Quinn Daly disrepectful, especially when Demand more or less has made appearences in this forum from time to time every step of the way, trying to inform the hard core .TV community the best they can.

I think the domaining industry is bent about premium prices in .TV so there is some sort of mud slinging agenda to turn everything into a flame thread round here the first moment that Demand Media has a perceived problem, and I don't like it nor do I like the tone.

I'm also starting to get irritated with the unprofessionalism I have witnessed in NP lately, but that is another story...