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Cost was $19.95 to get a 100k counter-offer on Dispensary.Best

Labeled as discuss in Domain Buying and Domain Purchases started by namemarket, Apr 10, 2019.

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  1. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I hope you are going to be the end user for the domain, and that the intention was not to buy it for resale.
     
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  2. Joe Nichols

    Joe Nichols Common sense consultant VIP

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    No one would type it in! And yet it yields four million results! That's the point! If you want to see the real search result value of a keyword combination, you need to enter them in the same order, with quotes.

    I'm not the right person to ask about hotels dot best. I don't like new TLDs and I've never bought one. There are few I would be willing to pay more than a modest reg fee to acquire. But heck, if Cyril sells it for $1 million then I guess it's worth $1 million!
     
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  3. mAd MaX

    mAd MaX Established Member

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    You can buy the best name "CannabisShop.best" for cheaper price, just saying! 🤷‍♂️
     
  4. NYJimbo

    NYJimbo Domain Re-Animator VIP

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    Yup, or cannashops.best or cannastores.best or a ton of other ones. $2.75 each. :ROFL:
     
  5. MapleDots

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    Crap..... even MapleDots.best is still available..... I'm shocked :xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL:

    Seriously though....

    If companies are not picking it up to protect their brand then it's probably a fairly decent indicator that it's not a good investment.
     
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  6. mAd MaX

    mAd MaX Established Member

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    True! 😁

    But "CannabisShop" is the term as per the Wikipedia also!

    Again, just saying. 🤷‍♂️
     
  7. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP

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    Go for it @MapleDots - you so often say you just have 1 new gTLD. Come on, double your portfolio! :-P
    (not serious, I see a limited market potential for MapleDots.... I mean what is a Maple Dot anyway, a splatter of maple syrup? :xf.grin: Or are you way ahead of us and plan to sell it to a Canadian quantum dots startup?
    You do know that maple.cash is available to handreg, no premium? If you are only adding one new gTLD I would take that one!)
     
  8. NYJimbo

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    I'm going to register MapleDots.best for $2.75, then wait for you to come around and offer me $xxx, but then I will say "No, I want $100k" and then you will say "Oh my God, why did I wait so long...." :nailbiting:

    Yes, this is my plan..... :sneaky:
     
  9. NYJimbo

    NYJimbo Domain Re-Animator VIP

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    Wait, what will happen in a year when the TLD masters release ".VeryBest" ?

    Because there are only 3,000 TLD's right now and they can never have enough. :xf.rolleyes:
     
  10. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP

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    I checked the Canadian TM database for you @NYJimbo - no TM on MapleDot or MapleDots. I think you are UDRP safe! (not a legal opinion, legal course MOOC dropout)
     
  11. NYJimbo

    NYJimbo Domain Re-Animator VIP

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    Ha, ha... my evil plan will work. .BEST must truly be the gold mine TLD for me. :pirate:
     
  12. MapleDots

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    HeHe.... it's not as cut and dry as that
    We have a lawyer on the forum and you should read his posts about names that are used in commerce.

    That said I did not even register MapleDot.com (singular) when it was available so chances are I'm sure as heck never going to care about .best, .top, .pro etc.

    If someone wants to use it more power to them.... you still won't get one of my domains unless you come to MapleDots.com or MapleDots.ca :xf.laugh:

    So you see the chances of a MapleDots.best sale is virtually nonexistent if one waits for me.
    The odds are this is pretty close to the general conception out there.

    The only hope .best has is with generic words like loans.best and that just does not sound grammatically correct to me.
     
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  13. JayT

    JayT LIFESAVINGS.ONLINE

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    It's people looking to pick up prescriptions, they are not going to drive far to get it. It can't be shipped.
     
  14. Dave

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    Joe's point is that using the amount of Google results with non quotes is an absolutely ridiculous metric to use in any domain name valuation. He is spot on and not misinformed.

    I don't understand how you're one of the long standing members of Namepros and you don't know basics like this. The amount of Google results has no correlation to what people are searching for. That's the whole point of exact match search volume. Even that metric holds far less value these days than it once did.

    I apologise if my post comes across as rash but to call another member misinformed and misleading when they're not is quite frankly ridiculous.
     
  15. jamesosix

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    surely you could just buy dispensaries dotcom with 100k? Or at least BestDispensaries.com
     
  16. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP

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    I would like to point out that I started a thread (not as popular as this one :xf.frown:) that looks at issues of search and domains in general. Welcome more views there.

    https://www.namepros.com/threads/domains-and-searches.1131570/

    My view is that Google search results without quotes give an idea of how common the terms are. That does not necessarily directly relate to value, but it is an indication that the terms are popular on the web and therefore there are potential users in theory. Note that it also does not take into account how speculated the term already is by domain investors, an important point re value.

    When we look for the word in quotes the search is on EXACTLY that phrase. While that is worth looking at, that is not directly an indication of value either. This is particularly so because the SEO experts who have contributed to the thread linked above point out that Google (in searches without the quotes) uses AI to search for intention, rather than exact words. i.e. if I search on good domain they would use other words similar to good and also the plural domains in considering what to present me with. When I use quote marks though it does not do this and gives only that exact phrase. That is not what most searchers will do and should not be the only metric you look at.

    Bob
     
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  17. NYJimbo

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    It could be he DOES understand, but if he uses the normal logic of searches it doesn't help his argument.

    I'm done here. This is just another .BEST promo from him that he is pretending to be something else.
     
  18. MapleDots

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    In my opinion he should open a new topic and call it BLATANT .BEST PROMO THREAD

    Hey, why not.... at least one would know what the topic was about upon entering the conversation.
     
  19. cooljub

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    Yeh true, it's difficult enough just to get off the sofa :xf.smile:
     
  20. Joe Nichols

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    I actually feel that domainers would be better off ignoring that search result metric entirely either way. It's more a distraction than anything else.

    The best indicator of a domain's current value and sale-ability is in how many active sites in your results are actually using the term to promote their products or services; how many are using the keywords in their own domain name; and how many companies are paying to advertise under those keywords.

    I've researched some names that have returned 100K+ exact match search results that I had no interest in buying, simply because the term or word combination was not being used commercially.
     
  21. Kate

    Kate Domainosaurus Rex VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    We already had .top, now .bests. So which one is the bestest ? :xf.smile:
     
  22. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP

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    It depends how you define best or top @Kate
    • .top has in last year 553 NameBio listed sales totalling $1.8 million. With .best (last year only, above $100, NB listed only) it is $0 and $0.
    • .top has about 3.6 million registrations and .best about 12 thousand.
    • For me top has about 24 billion search results and best about 17 billion Google search results.
    • In terms of abuse .best has a score of 0.05 while .top 3.63 (lower is better)
    Bob
     
  23. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP

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    While your reply is well reasoned, @Joe Nichols I don't agree entirely (although gave you a like :xf.wink:). I would agree that they should not be near the top of your list of considerations. But I do always do the check both with and without quotes (and the + mark option). If I find a really low number, it is telling me that I am ahead of popular use, and should only consider the domain investment long term and if I have expert knowledge that provides evidence that the term will become important.

    I also use it in another way. For example about a year ago I was considering the esports niche. I was reading up but did not know personally whether esport, esports, e-sport, e-sports would be best. Google searches can help you differentiate which are more used. Important intelligence in my opinion. Yes, I looked at sales of different terms, and other metrics, but the Google search is something not to be ignored imho.

    Bob
     
  24. hookbox

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    Dispensary.best is a sh*t name. If you talk like a caveman then it makes sense but if you actually talk like a human then it's crystal clear that it's assbackwards.

    rule #1 with these new extensions is to make sure the words are in the correct order and if they are not just move on to another name.
     
  25. Joe Nichols

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    Definitely a nice way to check on which variations of a term/word are more popular! For example: plural versus singular. I agree that has some value.

    I just get an eye twitch when I see some folks on here quoting the search result volume as a means of demonstrating their name's value. It's backwards logic. I just typed in an exact search for "best restaurants in north America"... over 400K results!! Do I want to own that in .com? No thank you.
     

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