.tv Content Aggregation

[WineGuy]

Just a thought that we as domainers might want to ponder. A lot of us have built up large portfolios of domains, basically considered intellectual property. For those of us excited about the dot TV or online video delivery, we may want to take those same skills we use researching and building our portfolios and start building another portfolio of niche video content rights. With all the partnering going on in the IPTV world we should not just be satisfied with possibly setting up a profitable broadband channel or hopefully sell a dot TV for a nice figure.

Just wanted to throw that out there as this forum has put me on a fast learning curve relating to IPTV and all the ways to profit from it. An aggregated package of video rights can take a almost valueless piece of intellectual property and by editing and combining with other videos can become very valuable to myself and the rightsholders.

Any thoughts on this?

Cheers!

WineGuy

 

[RogueWriter]

I soooo need to go get some reading done in this field. I need another me, a mini-RW. Nice thought, and you are right. I have no idea HOW to begin doing this, but there certainly is an opportunity out there.

 

[antonis12]

Just a thought that we as domainers might want to ponder. A lot of us have built up large portfolios of domains, basically considered intellectual property. For those of us excited about the dot TV or online video delivery, we may want to take those same skills we use researching and building our portfolios and start building another portfolio of niche video content rights. With all the partnering going on in the IPTV world we should not just be satisfied with possibly setting up a profitable broadband channel or hopefully sell a dot TV for a nice figure.

Just wanted to throw that out there as this forum has put me on a fast learning curve relating to IPTV and all the ways to profit from it. An aggregated package of video rights can take a almost valueless piece of intellectual property and by editing and combining with other videos can become very valuable to myself and the rightsholders.

Any thoughts on this?

Cheers!

WineGuy

This makes a lot of sense. Now, the key question: Who has actually done this before and can give us some pointers!?

 

[TLDnetworks]

portfolio of niche video content rights

Not sure I understand the question. Are you talking about creating a database of video content? With YouTube storing hundreds of thousands, isn't it already created? With Google Video and Yahoo's foray as well as AOL driving hard into the medium, seems this is already established.

When you speak of Niche video, do you mean for instance, you producing and streaming your own niche wine tasting video, or winery tour video?

 

[antonis12]

Not sure I understand the question. Are you talking about creating a database of video content? With YouTube storing hundreds of thousands, isn't it already created? With Google Video and Yahoo's foray as well as AOL driving hard into the medium, seems this is already established.

When you speak of Niche video, do you mean for instance, you producing and streaming your own niche wine tasting video, or winery tour video?

I think he means getting the exclusive online rights for niche categories.

For example, if you own backgammon.tv, going to the Backgammon Federation of America* and negotiating that only you can stream their championships online.

*I have not idea if there is a BFA (this is just made up)

 

[WineGuy]

Not sure I understand the question. Are you talking about creating a database of video content? With YouTube storing hundreds of thousands, isn't it already created? With Google Video and Yahoo's foray as well as AOL driving hard into the medium, seems this is already established.

When you speak of Niche video, do you mean for instance, you producing and streaming your own niche wine tasting video, or winery tour video?

westblock,

Actually I am talking about actually getting permission from rightsholders to reuse and monetize professionally produced niche video such as the the wine example. A lot of material on say Google Video and YouTube is not properly liscenced, also it covers hundreds or thousands of subject.

I am speaking of gathering material that may not be publically available or even forgotten about by it's producer and where they would not have an idea of how to monetize it. Offering the producer a piece of the pie if it can be repackaged, reedited, remixed and resold. Or in my case I would not compensate them but use the content to pull more folks to my site and having each video linked to their producer as a traffic play so they benefit from the traffic.

Also based on the niche it isn't much different than the articles sites where you can republish the articles on your site they offer as long as there is a link back to the authors site.

Does that make better sense? I think there are a lot of ways to leverage this and as the industry matures people will understand that those videos they had produced that are in a drawer somewhere might have value. I would rather get to them before too many people start to realize this.

Cheers!

WineGuy

I think he means getting the exclusive online rights for niche categories.

For example, if you own backgammon.tv, going to the Backgammon Federation of America* and negotiating that only you can stream their championships online.

*I have not idea if there is a BFA (this is just made up)

That would be great content to try and aggregate.

WineGuy

 

[RogueWriter]

I have approached several merchants offering affiliate programs with the idea of providing content for me, with mixed results so far. I am trying to get a decent infomercial for my KnifeShow.tv , etc. I think we are 1-2 years ahead of them, but with enough nudging, that end of it will come along. My intention is to intersperse the affiliate 'commercials' with non promotional content.....

As far as the original post, I thought it was directed along the lines of, say, gaining the rights to broadcast things like Indiana University's Little 500 Bicycle race, etc... As far as gaining those contracts, I do not know anything about how to go about doing that. Just one more thing to jump into, I suppose.

You know, though, this thread just hit me right between the eyes: one of my friends has been or still is a camera man for ESPN - I need to chat with him about working together on a few online projects.

 

[WineGuy]

I have approached several merchants offering affiliate programs with the idea of providing content for me, with mixed results so far. I am trying to get a decent infomercial for my KnifeShow.tv , etc. I think we are 1-2 years ahead of them, but with enough nudging, that end of it will come along. My intention is to intersperse the affiliate 'commercials' with non promotional content.....

As far as the original post, I thought it was directed along the lines of, say, gaining the rights to broadcast things like Indiana University's Little 500 Bicycle race, etc... As far as gaining those contracts, I do not know anything about how to go about doing that. Just one more thing to jump into, I suppose.

You know, though, this thread just hit me right between the eyes: one of my friends has been or still is a camera man for ESPN - I need to chat with him about working together on a few online projects.

I just bet you could negotiate a % deal with one of the cable knife channels to provide a feed to you if you were able to get them more eyeballs.

WG

 

[TLDnetworks]

...Actually I am talking about actually getting permission from rightsholders to reuse and monetize professionally produced niche video such as the the wine example...

Thanks for the clarification. This is one of the things that Equity and I talk about frequently; Cycling .tv is an example of this I believe.

The only way as I see it, IS to create those niche content sites that the big guys don't have time to develop. Via your "content aggregation" or via indie self production (as I pointed out in this thread). If espn wanted to cover the backgammon championships, they would and you've got no leg to stand on. Bottom line is that they won't until it proves profitable enough and has enough of a following that they can justify it. That said, this is where being first to market and with a plan, building that traffic and interest. At that point - PAYDAY.

If I understand correctly now, you're thinking of essentially a "Leads" database of independant producers, film makers, artists that have the content but no way to distribute or exploit what they have. Sounds like a good idea for Sourcing.tv Anyone interested in pursuing? :hehe:

I just bet you could negotiate a % deal with one of the cable knife channels to provide a feed to you if you were able to get them more eyeballs.

WG

That sounds like a huge benefit for those programs. It could justify the cost involved in creating the live feed and bandwidth usage.

 

[WineGuy]

westblock,

First mover advantage in smaller niches than say NASCAR will prove to be money makers when the big boys need more content and start aggregating us aggregators! LOL! :hehe:

Cheers!

WineGuy

 

[equity78]

I like the idea of what you were talking about getting videos and linking back the way people do with articles. Although finding a decent number of your niche may be hard. IT is how you want to position yourself too as an IPTV station or a RICH media site that has some video content, You probably get some content but then also get a digital video camera and get some of your own proprietary content. AND only certain niches will prove profitable, in a lot of articles they mentioned SPORTS and Adult being the two best that have a chance for the small entrepreneur.

 

[WineGuy]

I like the idea of what you were tlaking about getting videos and linking back the way people do with articles. Although finding a decent number of your niche may be hard. IT is how you want to position yourself too as an IPTV station or a RICH media site that has some video content, You probably get some content but then also get a digital video camera and get some of your own proprietary content. AND only certain niches will prove profitable, in a lot of articles they mentioned SPORTS and Adult being the two best that have a chance for the small entrepreneur.

Our own content that we don't have to compensate anyone for is our end model. However in the short term you can't even beleive how much unused content is already available and unleveraged. Massisve, at least for lifestyle niches. We may even buy like a half dozen $1200 cameras and contract individual personalities for this project .

 

[equity78]

Well I commend you WG because I would not have a clue as how to find it and don't really have any technical experience when it comes to Videography and the technology it takes to bring it to fruition.

 

[WineGuy]

Well I commend you WG because I would not have a clue as how to find it and don't really have any technical experience when it comes to Videography and the technology it takes to bring it to fruition.

Neither do I, But lets face it we all can learn, right? Like I said before , high learning curve! Get brave, get gutsy and make your friggin mark.

I am a sales kinda guy and know I can pay outta pocket for the tech part, in turn I know I can get a couple hundred grand together started from people I excite, plenty of them, people are looking for new investment ideas.

That is the trail start and at the end is either you get bought out, management is pissed at you and kicks you out with a parachute or you merge and get limited stock for 20 months and a salary. Limited stock, nice!

Am I lying?

I am not talking about 1990 startups, I am talking about a deal that is hot now and timely. Real technology that delivers! Folks that are buying dot TV " domains" for resale are really shorting themselves. Raise the bar , buy some business plan software and get creative.

Cheers!

WineGuy

 

[Carlton]

Online video content is a traffic builder when it fills a specific niche/interest. I believe there are many mutually satisfying partnerships to be made between .TV domainers and local business. A good .TV domain is the link between the online audience and a local company trying to promote their wares. Perhaps one example (please forgive the self promotion here) is the home community videos (from TV) that I have available on Houston.TV. HotOnHouston have yet one other avenue for promoting Houston's home communities and I have some neat online content for the Houston.TV audience.

I imagine a similar set-up is available to many of the .TV domainers here. It's a matter of finding companies operating within the industry described in your domain name. As someone stated, there's lots of content out there looking for a home. Why not on your .TV website?

 

[equity78]

Limited stock? Do you mean Restricted stock? That is my background so I understand everything you are talking about in the second Paragraph. If you can raise capital for an idea it certainly worthwhile even do a reverse take over and start trading publicly on the OTCBB. Most of these ideas will not be big enough to do a stock deal but they may be good enough to build it get some revenue more importantly eyeballs, position the IPTV station like a cable station if you can meet the same demos and stats and sell out for like two to four million dollars. You are right people out there definitely looking to do media deals, ones that make sense.

I agree with you since I started this forum I said better to own a couple great .tvs you can build something around because a lot of end user sales for names that are not THE Generic category definers will be few. BEtter to take a Wine Country a Wet.tv or DVD.tv (argos) or ASS.tv (SKG) or a Business Services(RW) and many more people have here and develop them into a stand alone Station and ecommerce site. IMO

 

[WineGuy]

Limited stock? Do you mean Restricted stock? That is my background so I understand everything you are talking about in the second Paragraph. If you can raise capital for an idea it certainly worthwhile even do a reverse take over and start trading publicly on the OTCBB. Most of these ideas will not be big enough to do a stock deal but they may be good enough to build it get some revenue more importantly eyeballs, position the IPTV station like a cable station if you can meet the same demos and stats and sell out for like two to four million dollars. You are right people out there definitely looking to do media deals, ones that make sense.

I agree with you since I started this forum I said better to own a couple great .tvs you can build something around because a lot of end user sales for names that are not THE Generic category definers will be few. BEtter to take a Wine Country a Wet.tv or DVD.tv (argos) or ASS.tv (SKG) or a Business Services(RW) and many more people have here and develop them into a stand alone Station and ecommerce site. IMO

Sounds like you might be somewhat excited then? :hehe:

 

[equity78]

Excited I have always been I started this sub forum, having the capital and the technical expertise that is another story.

 

[antonis12]

I think we need to thank WineGuy from injecting a nice new shot of enthusiasm to this board!

Long-time .tv board people. Is it not amazing how many more daily posts we have now, relative to 9 months ago???

 

[TLDnetworks]

I think we need to thank WineGuy from injecting a nice new shot of enthusiasm to this board!

Long-time .tv board people. Is it not amazing how many more daily posts we have now, relative to 9 months ago???

THAT is exactly right. Agree - Kudos to WG. Kudos to EQ for keeping it alive and growing! The reason we should be/are here is for THIS type of discussion and idea sharing / colaboration (colaborate.tv - shameless plug). Was getting really tiered of the "what's it worth?" posts that seemed to take over the forum.

On another note - Fantastic network of sites Carlton :tu: