domain CloudOnline dot com

[Federer]

Would love your thoughts on this one.....

CloudOnline dot com

 

[domainica]

Cash and money are the same thing. Not Cloud and Online. "Cloud" computing is happening "Online" As words, they are two completely different things, although related.

I'm thinking, someone in the Cloud Industry who can't afford to spend a million dollars for a domain (like Cloud.com), should be happy with Cloud Online dot com for about 10 Grand :bingo:

Where else would cloud computing be done if not online?

 

[ruzeen]

Where else would cloud computing be done if not online?

Just because two keywords in a domain make it an obvious phrase, doesn't make the domain bad. It's perfectly fine IMHO

 

[domainica]

Just because two keywords in a domain make it an obvious phrase, doesn't make the domain bad. It's perfectly fine IMHO

Doesn't make it good either.

 

[ruzeen]

Doesn't make it good either.

No reasoning?

A buyer who sees it's true potential will pay for what it's worth. End of story

 

[domainica]

No reasoning?

A buyer who sees it's true potential will pay for what it's worth. End of story

I just gave you my reasoning. And, of course, a buyer who sees potential will, at least, offer what he or she thinks it's worth.

It's just not going to be a lot.

PS. I also checked out the websites for the other "cloudonline" extensions. None were developed and most were for sale. I think that's pretty telling right there.

 

[ruzeen]

I just gave you my reasoning. And, of course, a buyer who sees potential will, at least, offer what he or she thinks it's worth.

It's just not going to be a lot.

PS. I also checked out the websites for the other "cloudonline" extensions. None were developed and most were for sale. I think that's pretty telling right there.

True that, so let's hope Federer meets a buyer who doesn't care if other extensions are undeveloped. Most end-users don't care, only we domainers do have a concern on that aspect.

 

[NameOmnia]

photonmymind, Im not going to get into this with you again mate, so here is my reasoning

With this type of name, its nothing to do with searches per month, CPC, previous sales etc etc...its about a good company name and thats it

There oly 2 orders these words can be in, and this is the best of the 2

I think that Cloud Online (dot) com has a reputation for itself. Look at the words.

Like Giles said, there's nothing to do with searches for this one. An online Cloud based company should only be proud to call themselves "Cloud Online", I don't see anything wrong there, considering the fact that some companies use the most bizarre combinations of words you could ever imagine. Example: GoDaddy, Facebook.

Moreover, cloudonline is taken in almost all major extensions - there's a reason why people reg'd this domain in many extensions.

I know Giles is the cloud man on NP but that doesn't change my view..call me thick if you like.

My partner explained me that the order of the words it's the right one so I am taking it back but I still think this name it's not worthy the amount it has been appraised for.
These are my reasons :

1) It is not unique enough to be called a brandable as NO COMPANIES would call themselves " Cloud Online ". This is shown by the fact that yes, many extensions are take, but NONE of them is developed. If you google " cloud online " there isn't any domain with online associated to the word cloud for at least 3 pages ( I didn't check any further...) If you google " cloud " there are no domains with the word online in it for the first 5 pages ( didn't check any further.. ) Cloud computing is not a future trend anymore as it's vastly used already so, if that was a great name for a company, you would expect it to be developed. This is a name that is interesting for domainers but not for end users ( so far at least ) so it will probably be bought by another domainer.

2) It doesn't have enough searches to be called an EMD and to be given the above appraisals.This is what I call a " half-way" name because it's not a brandable nor a EMD; names like this one are suitable for review or info websites.

3) Cloud IS online so, even if the order of the words is correct, it's redundant and cacophonous.

So he will probably find a buyer for that price as we all know that fools' mother is always pregnant but that doesn't mean it reflects the intrinsic and real value of the name. All of us can have a fluke and be overpayed for a name. ( see cornerstonehouses sold for 250.000...)

Sometimes I have the idea that the appraisals here on NP are more related to WHO owns the name rather than to the name itself. Beside this, do you guys really think someone like Federer put this on for appraisal because he doesn't know the value of the name? Come on... This is a commercial move to check if there was anyone biting..

 

[ruzeen]

I know Giles is the cloud man on NP but that doesn't change my view..call me thick if you like.

My partner explained me that the order of the words it's the right one so I am taking it back but I still think this name it's not worthy the amount it has been appraised for.
These are my reasons :

1) It is not unique enough to be called a brandable as NO COMPANIES would call themselves " Cloud Online ". This is shown by the fact that yes, many extensions are take, but NONE of them is developed. If you google " cloud online " there isn't any domain with online associated to the word cloud for at least 3 pages ( I didn't check any further...) If you google " cloud " there are no domains with the word online in it for the first 5 pages ( didn't check any further.. ) Cloud computing is not a future trend anymore as it's vastly used already so, if that was a great name for a company, you would expect it to be developed. This is a name that is interesting for domainers but not for end users ( so far at least ) so it will probably be bought by another domainer.

2) It doesn't have enough searches to be called an EMD and to be given the above appraisals.This is what I call a " half-way" name because it's not a brandable nor a EMD; names like this one are suitable for review or info websites.

3) Cloud IS online so, even if the order of the words is correct, it's redundant and cacophonous.

So he will probably find a buyer for that price as we all know that fools' mother is always pregnant but that doesn't mean it reflects the intrinsic and real value of the name. All of us can have a fluke and be overpayed for a name. ( see cornerstonehouses sold for 250.000...)

Sometimes I have the idea that the appraisals here on NP are more related to WHO owns the name rather than to the name itself. Beside this, do you guys really think someone like Federer put this on for appraisal because he doesn't know the value of the name? Come on... This is a commercial move to check if there was anyone biting..

It is obviously not about who owns the domain, at least, that's not how I look at it. Someone could be a reputed member on NamePros and have senseless domains as opposed to a new member who has green.com

Experienced domainers very well know the value of their domains; an appraisal is just to get different peoples' views. A nother domainer could have the best development idea for a particular domain. You never know...

Anyway, at the end of the day, a re-seller or an end-user will pay for what it is worth. And the seller can always deny an offer, till he/she finds the right buyer. IMO

 

[gilescoley]

I know Giles is the cloud man on NP

Lets leave me out of this one, there are a lot of people on here who have sold cloud names

So he will probably find a buyer for that price as we all know that fools' mother is always pregnant but that doesn't mean it reflects the intrinsic and real value of the name

If he finds a buyer at that price, that "does" reflect the value of the name, and I doubt this will be bought by a domainer for $10K plus, this is an end-user name...

 

[yogiDomain]

I agree with giles

Being worked in cloud computing technology myself for 3 years. I see great value in this name.
This domain value cant be determined by the sequence or EMD's it really doesnt matter when its cloud and its online. Good name IMO and given the picture within 2 years this cloud industry will grow exponentially and the service provider will increase in boom.
Cant give a figure but there will be buyer for this within 6 to 7 months.
Please dont sale it to any domainer they wont value it as a user would.

 

[fm1234]

posted by 4pm:

31 pages for word+"online" on Namebio vs 25 for "online"+word
..however the latter type has more 10K+ sales

Not to threadjack, but anything on NameBio more than a year old serves no purpose other than to remind us all of better days.

CloudOnline is a pretty solid domain, but I do not think that the end user potential is nearly what some posters here are inferring. Most companies who might be end users in the traditional sense, ie. companies who offer cloud tech solutions, are going to be going for branding, and CloudOnline is simply too generic to offer any branding, while also being not generic enough to count as a keyword domain.

Some cashed-up idiot in the marketing business will probably pay low four figures for it, with the idea of creating a cloud services review site on the domain. Probably your fastest and easiest sale, going that direction.


Frank

 

[wot]

It will sell for whatever a motivated buyer will pay for the name.

It is a nice standalone .COM brand and is very easy to recall on a worldwide scale.

I think I should hold out for at least mid $x,xxx based on past/current Cloud-orientated domain sales.

I agree.

 

[Psychedelic.us]

Based off what? If that's the case then pay him $XX,XXX for it... where are you getting this evaluation. There's no way this guy will EVER get over $500 for this domain -- especially with the release of over 700 new extensions this domain is not that valuable. What's with some of you putting these random unrealistic figures on domains. Imagine how rich we would all be if we can register a domain now and then turn it around to sell it for $millions. Unfortunately it don't work like that anymore. We missed our chance in the early 1990's. Most of you were probably babies

31 pages for word+"online" on Namebio vs 25 for "online"+word
..however the latter type has more 10K+ sales


word+"online" 10K+ sales examples:

stormonline.com 2013-09-30
nationline.com 2012-11-11
imprentaonline.es 2012-05-14
easycareonline.com 2011-12-07
gonline.com 2011-01-19
freegamesonline.net 2010-11-25
motorrad-online.de 2009-10-16
casinosonline.net 2009-10-16
gamblingonline.net 2009-10-16
nextonline.de 2009-08-07
golfonline.de 2009-08-02
doctoronline.co.uk 2008-12-02
jobsonline.info 2008-08-07
casinoonline.mobi 2007-02-01


i agree with low $xx,xxx estimations - $10-20K looks very realistic and fairly adequate to me



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[-EM-]

IMO I don't like the way it sounds and it doesn't make sense.
Maybe mid $xxx

 

[4pm]

Imagine how rich we would all be if we can register a domain now and then turn it around to sell it for $millions. Unfortunately it don't work like that anymore.

damn. what a shock.
i've hoped that would last a little bit longer so i can unload my stuff...




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[gilescoley]

- especially with the release of over 700 new extensions this domain is not that valuable.

Hi worldexchange, these will have no affect at all, they bring out new extensions all the time and they all die a very quick death

 

[Psychedelic.us]

Hi worldexchange, these will have no affect at all, they bring out new extensions all the time and they all die a very quick death

That's where you're wrong. It will cause those who're with ASUPERLONGDOMAIN.COM to get something a little more small. Let's say long.food or long.web this will cause a reasonable percentage of individuals to stray away from dot com and we don't want that. Currently dot com rains supreme running over 50% of websites... then there's dot net and dot org. This will continue to take small percentages away from dot com. They will not die off anytime soon. It's still new. The only thing that dot com has on their side is reliability to the customer and top notch search engine preference and priority. What's also good about dot com is by default you'll have first dibbs on another other extension (If you have the dot com) and of course in some web browsers if you type in something by default it will automatically go to dot com

 

[NameOmnia]

That's where you're wrong. It will cause those who're with ASUPERLONGDOMAIN.COM to get something a little more small. Let's say long.food or long.web this will cause a reasonable percentage of individuals to stray away from dot com and we don't want that. Currently dot com rains supreme running over 50% of websites... then there's dot net and dot org. This will continue to take small percentages away from dot com. They will not die off anytime soon. It's still new. The only thing that dot com has on their side is reliability to the customer and top notch search engine preference and priority. What's also good about dot com is by default you'll have first dibbs on another other extension (If you have the dot com) and of course in some web browsers if you type in something by default it will automatically go to dot com

It will take away from EMD coms but NEVER from brandables.

 

[gilescoley]

That's where you're wrong. It will cause those who're with ASUPERLONGDOMAIN.COM to get something a little more small. Let's say long.food or long.web this will cause a reasonable percentage of individuals to stray away from dot com and we don't want that. Currently dot com rains supreme running over 50% of websites... then there's dot net and dot org. This will continue to take small percentages away from dot com. They will not die off anytime soon. It's still new. The only thing that dot com has on their side is reliability to the customer and top notch search engine preference and priority. What's also good about dot com is by default you'll have first dibbs on another other extension (If you have the dot com) and of course in some web browsers if you type in something by default it will automatically go to dot com

If you have read this forum over the last few years, you will see there are always new extensions coming out and they always end up the same...DEAD...companies just arent interested in these, they would rather have a 2nd rate .COM to use for the business

Registrars and a few other "people" reserve the premium keywords and the domainers are left with the dregs. There are few decent sales and then the extenion falls flat because domainers hear about another new extension, dont worry, I am guilty of testing the waters with a few but I have learnt my lesson now

Anyway, PM me if you want, I dont want to hijack this thread but happy to discuss

 

[wot]

Based off what? If that's the case then pay him $XX,XXX for it... where are you getting this evaluation. There's no way this guy will EVER get over $500 for this domain -- especially with the release of over 700 new extensions this domain is not that valuable. What's with some of you putting these random unrealistic figures on domains. Imagine how rich we would all be if we can register a domain now and then turn it around to sell it for $millions. Unfortunately it don't work like that anymore. We missed our chance in the early 1990's. Most of you were probably babies

BitcoinWallet.com was registered in July 2010 just sold for $250,000

New technology, right name, chance of a big sale. Saw a guy just bought 4K.com for low $xx,xxx, betting that will turn around for $xxx,xxx in the not too distant future.

CloudOnline.com I can see upper $x,xxx to low $xx,xxx, as usual simply requires the motivated buyer and the current owner is quite good at finding those type of buyers.

---------- Post added at 05:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:50 PM ----------

Cash and money are the same thing. Not Cloud and Online. "Cloud" computing is happening "Online" As words, they are two completely different things, although related.

I'm thinking, someone in the Cloud Industry who can't afford to spend a million dollars for a domain (like Cloud.com), should be happy with Cloud Online dot com for about 10 Grand :bingo:

Most definitely not.