Chinese LLLL.com bubble!?

[freezer]

Is it a somewhat good estimate that
chinese LLLL.com premiums are at at least $1billion value today?
Unlike Number .coms chinese premium LLLL.com boomed in value in a very short period.
Will they hold their value or is it the biggest BUBBLE ever seen in domains?

Share your thoughts please

 

[James Rodman]

Heads up to all as I am not sure if it is clearly obvious by recent posts. The Chinese are getting ready to celebrate some holiday and may be out of the picture for a while. Any one have any more info on this? I know one of my suppliers in China is telling me they will be offline for a few weeks and unable to process orders.

Many thanks in advance!

even DN.com is going on a holiday break. i asked them

 

[bobbarato]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/chinese-new-year-is-feb-8-impact-on-domaining.911019/

 

[italiandragon]

no worries, the world will still be here when they get back.

 

[brindle123]

Look at it like this...if it is a bubble we can all buy the LLLL.com chips back from them for pebbles on the dollar.
Then when it takes off again...we can sell them back to them. Buy low sell high right.

I don't think the market will drop that much, even if it does, there seems to be plenty of investors that missed the boat the first time around that would be happy to pick them up and put them in their portfolio. I got some and would grab more if the price is right regardless of bubble pop.

You guys have dumped plenty of cash into other LLLL.whatevers, if the opportunity comes around to grab a good LLLL.com, LLLL.whatevers will drop like crazy and money will flow back into LLLL.coms

My advice would be to not buy random LLLL.whatevers

 

[Recons.Com]

I looked through actual domains that make chaomi.cc chart.

For non-chip LLLL, differing from us, "domain specialists" of the West, Chinese have figured out that not all non-chip are the same. The bottom minimum price of 2000 Rmb is only for the worst, like 2 Chip L and letter V and/or Vowel(s), like zdeq, zbgv (actual examples).

The ones that we wrongly and unfairly bulk together with those, sell for 2500-4000 range and have completely different floor. Those are 3 Chip L or 3 western premium.

some examples:

orvs.com 2588
knsu.com 2588
xxca.com 2988
oqyc.com 2199
wkag.com 4500
agqb.com 3500
ixkc.com 2888
bggu.com 3888
nhaq.com 2770

Shows how little we understand this dynamics...

 

[Recons.Com]

couple more interesting sales from chaomi:

hepo.com 34000
oero.com 11500
aoru.com 24000
gaku.com 47000

This goes against everything we assume about Chinese. They paid almost $6000 for aoru.com, 3 vowel pronounceable, not even CVCV, and yet, on NP it would not probably find takers for $500... We would be arguing on appraisal of Gaku if it is mid $xxx or high $xxx name, never thinking it would fetch around 8000$.

 

[NameOmnia]

I agree with Recons.

Money are now to be made with the so called non chip 4l that would most likely go up in price starting from February. I can confirm that I have received many offers for my non chips especially from Chinese buyers.

 

[brandsly]

couple more interesting sales from chaomi:

hepo.com 34000
oero.com 11500
aoru.com 24000
gaku.com 47000

This goes against everything we assume about Chinese. They paid almost $6000 for aoru.com, 3 vowel pronounceable, not even CVCV, and yet, on NP it would not probably find takers for $500... We would be arguing on appraisal of Gaku if it is mid $xxx or high $xxx name, never thinking it would fetch around 8000$.

aoru is "ao ru", actual words in pinyin, even better than initials. So is "he po" and "ga ku". Also remember I wrote in that post that "a" can be an initial? here goes

 

[Recons.Com]

aoru is "ao ru", actual words in pinyin, even better than initials. So is "he po" and "ga ku". Also remember I wrote in that post that "a" can be an initial? here goes

And what does ao ru exactly mean?

 

[brandsly]

And what does ao ru exactly mean?

"ao" can be different chinese characters that spell out the same way in pinyin, so is "ru". It doesn't mean anything, It's simply a brandable name, but for Chinese brandables, every single "word" (character) has to exist in Chinese pinyin. "ao ru" works, but "ao ra" won't work and not worth anything to them even though it's pronouceable in English.

 

[Recons.Com]

"ao" can be different chinese characters that spell out the same way in pinyin, so is "ru". It doesn't mean anything, It's simply a brandable name, but for Chinese brandables, every single "word" (character) has to exist in Chinese pinyin. "ao ru" works, but "ao ra" won't work and not worth anything to them even though it's pronouceable in English.

So what is your theory on oero then? Why they paid premium of 400% for something worthless?

 

[brandsly]

So what is your theory on oero then? Why they paid premium of 400% for something worthless?

That one I am not too sure tbh, "er" is a character though! And a populer character used in many words

 

[Recons.Com]

So now it is enough to find one character in LLLL and that is enough for getting that price? ) I assume 90% of all LLLLs would have at least one character, won't they? )

 

[brandsly]

So now it is enough to find one character in LLLL and that is enough for getting that price? ) I assume 90% of all LLLLs would have at least one character, won't they? )

I would say oero is a very very rare exception, plus the "o" on both sides helps too. But, If you find a 4L that consists of 2 characters' pin yin, even if it's not a word that means anything, it can be a real brandable and worth a lot, if that 4L is pinyin for one single character, value will be crazy high, an example is the recent sold lian.com on dropcatch for over 220k, it's a single character, it's a popular last name, and it can mean "face"

 

[Recons.Com]

Fresh outliers from Chaomi for analysis:

VRql.com 7000 with floor being only 2300 now. Shows the value of LLLLs with VR in it.

QOTR, QBAH, QAHC - 2500-2600 range, so Q in the beginning with vowel in the middle, 3 chinese prem and 3 western prem (satisfies both) seems to get about 10% premium, while qjih sold for 2000 (3 chinese, 2 western)

 

[brandsly]

Fresh outliers from Chaomi for analysis:

VRql.com 7000 with floor being only 2300 now. Shows the value of LLLLs with VR in it.

QOTR, QBAH, QAHC - 2500-2600 range, so Q in the beginning with vowel in the middle, 3 chinese prem and 3 western prem (satisfies both) seems to get about 10% premium, while qjih sold for 2000 (3 chinese, 2 western)

OK, now I get it! Once again, remember me saying 4L with "A" was undervalued?? so is "O", "o" is also an initial!!!

 

[Recons.Com]

I would say oero is a very very rare exception, plus the "o" on both sides helps too. But, If you find a 4L that consists of 2 characters' pin yin, even if it's not a word that means anything, it can be a real brandable and worth a lot, if that 4L is pinyin for one single character, value will be crazy high, an example is the recent sold lian.com on dropcatch for over 220k, it's a single character, it's a popular last name, and it can mean "face"

ER can mean AND? Then OerO could stand for O&O, right? )

 

[brandsly]

Fresh outliers from Chaomi for analysis:

VRql.com 7000 with floor being only 2300 now. Shows the value of LLLLs with VR in it.

QOTR, QBAH, QAHC - 2500-2600 range, so Q in the beginning with vowel in the middle, 3 chinese prem and 3 western prem (satisfies both) seems to get about 10% premium, while qjih sold for 2000 (3 chinese, 2 western)

Actually, not just "a" and "o", "e" is also an initial. "OERO" was treated as Chinese premium initials, it's not spelled out words like "ao ru".

example of popular characters starting with "O":
哦, 噢, 喔
example of popular characters starting with "A":
啊，啊，安，傲
example of popular characters starting with "E":
饿， 二，耳

 

[SlimPickins]

oero could also be seen as a typo of Oreo perhaps...... for those that are into that sort of thing. no idea if that was a driving factor in the higher price, but it was what i myself initially "read" it as on first glance before I realized it was actually oero.

 

[brandsly]

ER can mean AND? Then OerO could stand for O&O, right? )

I think you are just confused with the "Chinese premium letters" (initials) vs actual pinyin words.

I'll explain by this example:
"LGST" is like "Lets Go Shopping Today", it's only an abbreviation.

"qushangjie" also worth a lot of money, because it's actual spelled out "go shopping"

QSJ would be abbreviation of "qu shang jie", it will again, worth more money not just because it's 3L.