Chinese LLLL.com bubble!?

[freezer]

Is it a somewhat good estimate that
chinese LLLL.com premiums are at at least $1billion value today?
Unlike Number .coms chinese premium LLLL.com boomed in value in a very short period.
Will they hold their value or is it the biggest BUBBLE ever seen in domains?

Share your thoughts please

 

[domainerfella]

I would guess the whole LLLL.com is kind of a bubble. Random LLLL.coms go for 500 $ and I can't really see value in all of the 456.976! combinations. Yes, there's a "shortage" in these combinations, but I think is made up artificially by some big domainers who hold 1000's of LLLL.coms. Is it realistic to expect even 200.000 of them going to endusers? Many LLLL.com domains go from domainer to domainer, but are there really enough endusers to buy? If only half of all LLLLs find no enduser, there would be a HUGE BUBBLE currently valued at 150~ million dollar.

This is the opinion of a domain beginner

Dear, these can be seen as digital currencies which appreciates in value when there is demand. These does not need to be developed or find end users to assign value. All Chinese based domains including numerical domains can be seen in this way. No need to find end users, no need to have development potential. Demand is the only thing for the prices to sky rocket. Investors are the ones who want to hold them and not end users. Domain values can go only up though we may see fluctuations.

 

[domainerfella]

Ok guys found this thread discussing Chinese domains this might now be the right spot to ask this question but let's see if I get some replies.

I recently "jumped in head first" into this whole chinese IDN rush a bit too late. I choose only one specific IDN extension. I'm worried that I chose the wrong one. so let me ask flat out. which of these Chinese IDN Extensions are the ones chinese people are more inclined to visit or purchase? or maybe I'm asking the wrong question here. Which one of these are more valuable as an investment? short term long term? Thanks. sure hope I chose the right one.

(I'm giving you the english translation for these chinese idn extensions. NOTE these ext's are actually Chinese characters.)

.中国 - .China
.在线 - .Online
.中文网 -.Chinese Website

I have looked into it and seems as though the history is that .在线 - .Online and .中文网 -.Chinese Website were the first Chinese IDN that that chinese registered with ICANN years ago then thee others followed.

But personally I feel that .China is better than thee other two (three guess which extension I chose??lol) simply because for national pride when compared to .cn I think .中国 - .China is the next best thing since there is no chinese equivalent for .cn in IDN pinyin characters.

Any thoughts?

You should have some commonsense not to put a post unrelated to the topic. We all spend time to read the threads and do not want to get diverted. You have the freedom to create another thread to ask the question. Please.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

common sense? was my post talking about chicken nuggets? or tractor trailers or FREE STUFF!? My post was perfectly within the boundaries of the discussion of chinese domains. People are after a quick scroll up mention words like :

For people from China their letters are very premium and China is big .
Plus many discussions about Chinese Premium domains.

It is obvious you don't need to be a genius that thread discusses Chinese domains so a question to help another user (myself) on which ext is more valuable would not be beyond the topic of this thread is it?

I invite anyone else in this thread have a problem with my post? if there is please say so. and I'll apologize to all if I detracted from anyone's "focus" on this thread. ANYONE? Is it THAT SERIOUS DomainerFella?

no one else here decided to complain. of course we have yet to see. so let's hear it people. was my post really beyond the scope of this thread? yes or no? as I've stated already I did not post here to talk about chicken nuggets or tractor trailers or lucky bamboo. I simply had a question about the difference between one chinese IDN and another Chinese IDN and which one is more valuable as an investment.

 

[campout]

@Avtar629 This thread is specifically about Chinese LLLL.com, and even more specifically is focused on the question of whether or not we are in a bubble with this specific type of domain.

I think you'll come to appreciate this "strictness" that we have here at NP. I would do some searches on "Chinese IDN" and try to find a similar thread and respond there, or else start your own topic.

 

[forge]

I invite anyone else in this thread have a problem with my post? if there is please say so. and I'll apologize to all if I detracted from anyone's "focus" on this thread. ANYONE? Is it THAT SERIOUS DomainerFella?

I don't have a problem with your post, but because this forum is for short domains discussion, you really should post your question in a separate area.

Even posters who create threads on 6L domains here are pushing their luck, because in most circles 6L names are not considered "short" domains.

DomainerFella could have been more diplomatic.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

@Avtar629 This thread is specifically about Chinese LLLL.com, and even more specifically is focused on the question of whether or not we are in a bubble with this specific type of domain.

I think you'll come to appreciate this "strictness" that we have here at NP. I would do some searches on "Chinese IDN" and try to find a similar thread and respond there, or else start your own topic.

"Start your own topic" DONE

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

"DomainerFella could have been more diplomatic." AGREED

 

[domainerfella]

common sense? was my post talking about chicken nuggets? or tractor trailers or FREE STUFF!? My post was perfectly within the boundaries of the discussion of chinese domains. People are after a quick scroll up mention words like :

For people from China their letters are very premium and China is big .
Plus many discussions about Chinese Premium domains.

It is obvious you don't need to be a genius that thread discusses Chinese domains so a question to help another user (myself) on which ext is more valuable would not be beyond the topic of this thread is it?

I invite anyone else in this thread have a problem with my post? if there is please say so. and I'll apologize to all if I detracted from anyone's "focus" on this thread. ANYONE? Is it THAT SERIOUS DomainerFella?

no one else here decided to complain. of course we have yet to see. so let's hear it people. was my post really beyond the scope of this thread? yes or no? as I've stated already I did not post here to talk about chicken nuggets or tractor trailers or lucky bamboo. I simply had a question about the difference between one chinese IDN and another Chinese IDN and which one is more valuable as an investment.

Bro,

Nat and forge told you why we feel this is out of topic here. For may of us domaining is not full time profession and we check threads while travelling, between jobs, while in the toilet (!), or feeding the baby etc. Many of us use small screen phones. So an unrelated post which is very big and another 10 people commenting on it (this does not happen here normally, people avoid the wrong post) really makes the scene worse. Plus, you had already opened another thread for the same topic and copy pasted it here to get response or get attention. For most of us IDN is strange topic and we don't even understand it. It made me uneasy to read your large post which prompted my response. Sorry if I hurt you, stay on topic in future.

Thank you,
DF

 

[MR PACKER]

Remember there are 456,976 llll.com's.

But there are only 160,000 Chinese premium llll.com's (20x20x20x20) after taking out the A, E, I, O, U and V combos. So a lot less of these.

I think even though the prices have kicked hard, as have lll.com's nnn.com's etc this is the new base and it will only rise from here.

Cheers.

 

[DomainVP]

I personally think the 4L market is an affect of the Chinese economy, stemming from the quest for people to find a safe haven for investments.

As of right now, these domains are being looked at as 'safe haven' investments, and I have seen a lot of safe haven investments go sideways very quickly - especially when they are "NEW" and "DIGITAL". (Bitcoin)

I got out a few months ago, mostly because I bought my PinYin 4L's for $20-$40 - so I'm fine with the ROI.

Over the next few years I think PinYin 4L.coms will mirror the performance of BitCoin, in that there will be a great rise and then a steep fall back to normalcy. Where that rise and normalcy will end up, I cannot say. It may fall back to the 'going rate' for random 4L's or it may fall back to the current market price as it stands.

But I think that of domains in general over the next 5-6 years.

In a few years there will be this great explosion of domaining, and the prices will reflect the demand. Part of the explosion will be forced by the powers that own top-tier names, and part of it will come from the general public becoming more tech savvy and the mainstream media dropping the 'squatter' narrative.

You can already start to see the framework this being laid in articles by top news sources today.

After that, the domain market will be in a state of disarray, will likely drop significantly in value, and then will recover a number of years later.

Nobody likes to hear that, but it's 'the pattern' that all things in this world follow.

No worries, we've all got good times ahead for quite some time.

 

[forge]

That safe haven concept had occurred to me also.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Bro,

Nat and forge told you why we feel this is out of topic here. For may of us domaining is not full time profession and we check threads while travelling, between jobs, while in the toilet (!), or feeding the baby etc. Many of us use small screen phones. So an unrelated post which is very big and another 10 people commenting on it (this does not happen here normally, people avoid the wrong post) really makes the scene worse. Plus, you had already opened another thread for the same topic and copy pasted it here to get response or get attention. For most of us IDN is strange topic and we don't even understand it. It made me uneasy to read your large post which prompted my response. Sorry if I hurt you, stay on topic in future.

Thank you,
DF

no worries.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Remember there are 456,976 llll.com's.

But there are only 160,000 Chinese premium llll.com's (20x20x20x20) after taking out the A, E, I, O, U and V combos. So a lot less of these.

I think even though the prices have kicked hard, as have lll.com's nnn.com's etc this is the new base and it will only rise from here.

Cheers.

While I'm here what's the significance of "taking out the A,E,I,O,U,and V combos"? and what's difference lll.com's and nnn.com's? confused as to why you've used 2 different characters to describe 3 character domains?

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

I personally think the 4L market is an affect of the Chinese economy, stemming from the quest for people to find a safe haven for investments.

As of right now, these domains are being looked at as 'safe haven' investments, and I have seen a lot of safe haven investments go sideways very quickly - especially when they are "NEW" and "DIGITAL". (Bitcoin)

I got out a few months ago, mostly because I bought my PinYin 4L's for $20-$40 - so I'm fine with the ROI.

Over the next few years I think PinYin 4L.coms will mirror the performance of BitCoin, in that there will be a great rise and then a steep fall back to normalcy. Where that rise and normalcy will end up, I cannot say. It may fall back to the 'going rate' for random 4L's or it may fall back to the current market price as it stands.

But I think that of domains in general over the next 5-6 years.

In a few years there will be this great explosion of domaining, and the prices will reflect the demand. Part of the explosion will be forced by the powers that own top-tier names, and part of it will come from the general public becoming more tech savvy and the mainstream media dropping the 'squatter' narrative.

You can already start to see the framework this being laid in articles by top news sources today.

After that, the domain market will be in a state of disarray, will likely drop significantly in value, and then will recover a number of years later.

Nobody likes to hear that, but it's 'the pattern' that all things in this world follow.

No worries, we've all got good times ahead for quite some time.

geez sounds bleek. but guess no choice but to keep on movin.

 

[DomainVP]

geez sounds bleek. but guess no choice but to keep on movin.

I didn't mean for it to sound totally bleak. There is a long swing of positivity within the rise and fall of everything.

 

[imadoer]

I think in the next few months $1000 will be the floor for 4L Chinese premiums and I think the boat that everyone said we missed, Is still here, just at a different starting price. The Chinese market is really hot right now and the prices continue to go up daily. I don't think it's going slow down anytime soon.. I could be wrong..But this is just my opinion

 

[biggie]

most of the "AIR" in the bubble, is being blown by domainers

huffing and puffing about ChinesePremium.com this and ChinesePremium.com that

will the Chinese buy all the ChinesePremium.com...

and if they do, then what, and whatcha gonna have to offer them next?

imo....

 

[moustafa]

What is the specification of a chinese LLLL.Com domain?
How can i know them?
and who would be interested to buy them?
Also, what is their range of price?

 

[1john2004]

will the Chinese buy all the ChinesePremium.com...

and if they do, then what, and whatcha gonna have to offer them next?

imo....

The next thing will be The Chinese will buy ALL Chinese premium lll.com , any other lll.com up to 100K and then 5 numbers up to 10K each , 6 numberrs up to 1k each ....

 

[DomainVP]

What is the specification of a chinese LLLL.Com domain?
How can i know them?
and who would be interested to buy them?
Also, what is their range of price?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/current-llll-market-situation.865701/page-2#post-4912344