ccTLD Registration Discussion & Promo Offers

[Morgan]

Hello, i am thinking about setting up a local registrar for my area and im wanting to know which is the best reseller for .com.au domains. The reseller account must be easy to use and customizeable and has the cheapest prices.

If anyone has any recommendations please post here.

Thanks

Morgan

 

[GF]

Your best bet is a relative in Canada or a canadian citizen who you can trust as they will ultimately be in the driving seat. You will have no claim to the domain should the $^!t hit the fan.

Maybe I'll have to marry a Canadian woman to give me citizenship. :bingo:

 

[mwzd]

As I see it, that is the same problem that will cause roadblocks in the growth of all restricted ccTLDs.

While logical in providing names for their countrymen, they lose out on global significance.

Why I stay out of some ccTLDs that I like - couldn't be bothered with the headache.

 

[Len]

As I see it, that is the same problem that will cause roadblocks in the growth of all restricted ccTLDs.

While logical in providing names for their countrymen, they lose out on global significance.

Why I stay out of some ccTLDs that I like - couldn't be bothered with the headache.

I understand what you are saying but there is the other view that ccTLD's are intended for use by the particular countries to which they are assigned. To restrict them to those who reside in the country encourages their use by businesses and individuals within the country in question.
In the case of .ca's, these domains were never intended to be collected and sold like baseball cards by domainers.

 

[GF]

In my opinion, it's to .ca's detriment that people outside of Canada can't register their domains.

 

[mis_chiff]

Hello,
go to alldomainregistrar.com we offer .ca registration for non Canadian Residents, we use our contact address for this.
If you have questions or need more information, please send me a PM or via the site alldomainregistrar.com

DragonADR

What makes you so special?
Do you have something that says you can do this?
Like a CIRA accreditation?

 

[weblord]

more likely like that since afterwards you can't change the registrant's name

Maybe I'll have to marry a Canadian woman to give me citizenship. :bingo:

 

[whitebark]

In my opinion, it's to .ca's detriment that people outside of Canada can't register their domains.

Not at all. It's what gives it most of its worth. There is more to a domain name than flipping for a profit or parking.

 

[GF]

There is more to a domain name than flipping for a profit or parking.

Absolutely - Most of my income is based off of developing domains. I have a few development ideas that would work only on .ca domains. I have no interest in flipping them.

 

[metronome]

searching google and stuffs.
found http://www.sgnic.sg/newsroom/20080801104848.html

guess it is 5 SGD for the first year, some even offer less for like 2.5 SGD, but hmm, what I know is they need credit card (there is another way like bank transfer etc, but no paypal)

not sure about singapore proxy requirement tho for the offer.

 

[mis_chiff]

Hi,
the registrant will be our contact, that's the way we are doing the .ca registrations. The way we have to do it to be legal. But you will receive the Cira's confirmation mail including the acces codes for your Domain(s). And the admin, billing and technical contacts will all go on your contact names.
I hope this helps

DragonADR

Legal in whose books?? Yours?? IT IS NOT LEGAL!

you might want to get your information corrected!
Here's the number for CIRA 1-877-860-1411
Tell them what your doing, and please post the reply
that makes it legal for you to buy .ca domain's for people
who would normally not meet the requirements.

 

[mis_chiff]

By changing the contact (not registrant name) to a 3rd party.
(which is what you're doing)
Is not allowed, you are knowingly registering domains
for people who you know do not qualify.

You don't think if it was allowed I'd have done it 2 years ago?
I jumped right on that bandwagon and was quickly shot down.
Believe me, I researched this well, and was in constant
communication with CIRA to see if there was away around it
There isin't!!!
Call that number and ask!

 

[shockie]

We are in regular contact with the guys from CIRA and we plan to get registered at CIRA very soon...

did the guys from cira say you could do this, and what do you mean by planning on getting registered?

 

[800ml]

In my opinion, it's to .ca's detriment that people outside of Canada can't register their domains.

You are absolutely correct, keeping .ca restricted is really a sad state of affairs that many seem not to understand, keeping .ca restricted is like saying Foreign investment capital is not welcome in Canada, it is like saying please don't invest in Canada, please don't develop .ca properties, please don't try to find any new opportunities here, we can do it all by ourselves, well ... you can't if you want Canada to stay competitive globally. The less people participate in the .ca market, whatever that may be speculating, trading, developing, ... the smaller that market is, the less it is liquid, its basic Economics really.

Are .co.uk, .es worth less because they are open?

There really must be a good reason for the restriction, haven't heard it yet though. I hope CIRA wakes up sooner rather than later, for the good of everyone.

 

[shockie]

in terms of world economics, there are reasons for restricting trade listed at the bottom there, that will sort of give you an idea of why trade might be restricted.

as it applies to .ca directly, consider .ca domains to be virtual property. ottawa wouldn't/shouldn't allow unrestricted investing of canadian land by foreigners for a plethora of reasons, and some of these apply to .ca.

 

[800ml]

shockie, that is a great domain you pulled up, just what we need to support and further a discussion on this topic. Any argument which supports the premise of restriction is welcome by me, because i haven't heard a clear convincing argument yet, of how and why a restriction benefits Canada or Canadians, short long term
The link to reasons for restricting trade definitely have its purpose however i fail to see how they apply to domains. The general trend in global economic policy in most countries is moving to eliminate tariffs and barriers to trade.

Do you think part of the reason for registration restriction is coming from the fear that foreigners will buy out all of Canada's good land and there will be none left for the poor Canadians? An analogy that comes to mind is that of US buying out part of Mexico long time ago, and now foreigners can't own land 50 miles from the border of mexico.

 

[homebuyer]

Who is the Registrant?

The rules are here:

http://cira.ca/en/faq-menu-cpr.html#q1

I think the issue is who is the registrant (who is going to drink the beer?) You want to look at substance over form. Otherwise, I bet there are a lot of kids out there who would like you to buy them some beer this weekend.

What about if I go out to the store tonight, and a kid asks me to buy him some beer, and then hands me ten dollars, which I accept; do I actually have to give him the beer to be culpable? What if, in the alternative, I just hold the beer for him until he has a buyer for it?

 

[staffjam]

I was wondering if there is anything stoppoing me from buying a .de name off someone and then having my friend who is a german resident listed as the administrative contact, which i believe should meet the requirements. Or have i missed something out here?

RTM mentioned "but you should carefully read the legal terms and consider the risks accordingly..."

What are the risks involved here - does anyone know??

 

[BitcoinDK]

As I see it the risk is that your friend could steal it from you

 

[whitebark]

.ca is a Canadian ONLY brand that Canadians know and use. To open it up only dilutes that brand. Opening it up would only benefit domainers. Anyone (Canadian or not) wanting to run a business on a .ca can - it's easy to meet CIRA requirements in that regard.

 

[mwzd]

Hey Roy, thanks for weighing in.

Could you clarify what is legal and what's not? For eg. is the suggestion in this thread of a proxy reg legal?

Would be better to have some clarity on this.