discuss Catchy vs. Vanilla

[BoGoKing]

CookingInstitute
YumInstitute
FoodInstitute


Question? Which domains sell best? All three of these domains are registered, and two have been registered for twenty years. They say "beauty" is in the eyes of the beholder, but is "catchy"? "vanilla"?

Do you have a CatchyPersona? or a VanillaPersona?

 

[BoGoKing]

Can anyone vouch for this?

Joe...last I checked NP has a means by which other members can provide "kudos" similar to the way you get kudos for lending/sharing your expertise. Are you telling me my kudos are fake and yours aren't?

btw, on the thread you started about creative emails, I tried to share some of my experience with email "timing", but it must have gotten hung up in a "spam" filter somewhere? You can email me personally if you'd like. Unlike many,I'm pretty transparent Sorry, I have to go...speaking of timing, guests arriving in 15 minutes.☺

 

[Joe N]

Joe...last I checked NP has a means by which other members can provide "kudos" similar to the way you get kudos for lending/sharing your expertise. Are you telling me my kudos are fake and yours aren't?

I'm sure all kudos are sincere, but they're only an indication of having liked what was said in a particular post. They're not meant to be taken as recommendations of anyone's professional qualifications.

 

[Internet.Domains]

That's why I keep saying what you're doing is business development and NOT domaining.

Business development is domaining and vice versa.

 

[Ategy]

Business development is domaining and vice versa.

No.

Domaining is buying and selling domains only for profit.

Business Development is actually starting/building/developing any kind of business such as restaurants, clothing stores, software development companies, golf schools, etc etc


A random name anyone comes up with most certainly could be good for any business.

However that same name as a domain might not be strong enough or have the proper elements needed to pass the mathematical probabilities of being part of a profitable portfolio.


Case in point, 9Time is a half-decent name for @ThatNameGuy's golf concept. But isn't necessarily strong enough to be invest-able as a domainer, because if it was part of a portfolio of equal quality names, that portfolio would never be profitable.

The two things are very very different.

 

[Internet.Domains]

No.

Domaining is buying and selling domains only for profit.

Business Development is actually starting/building/developing any kind of business such as restaurants, clothing stores, software development companies, golf schools, etc etc


A random name anyone comes up with most certainly could be good for any business.

However that same name as a domain might not be strong enough or have the proper elements needed to pass the mathematical probabilities of being part of a profitable portfolio.


Case in point, 9Time is a half-decent name for @ThatNameGuy's golf concept. But isn't necessarily strong enough to be invest-able as a domainer, because if it was part of a portfolio of equal quality names, that portfolio would never be profitable.

The two things are very very different.

I respectfully disagree. To say that domaining or domains are not part of business development is completely missing the point of the value domains bring. Domains are absolutely part of business development, that's what gives them value. Business development makes domains an asset. Assets bring value, assets bring business opportunity, assets bring business development.

If domains are not part of business development than what is the value of them?

 

[Ategy]

To say that domaining or domains are not part of business development is completely missing the point of the value domains bring.

Nice of you to disagree with something I did not say! lol

Seriously .. you're talking about something completely different. Of course when buying domains as a domainer you should always think of their potential usage in business. That should be glaringly obvious to everyone.


What I am saying is that:

A) Coming up with a good business name.

is not the same thing as:

B) Buying domains with the intention of reselling them for profit.


Heck .. I also very specifically said that often they do match up and often a good name for a business is indeed what would make for a good domain to invest in. BUT ... What I am saying is that just because you come up with a good usable business name to use for a business doesn't NOT automatically always make the equivalent domain as good investment as a domainer.


There are some good business names that simply aren't strong enough or appropriate to invest in because the chances of selling them at an appropriate multiple is simply too low. It's not to say that some will not sell .. obviously there are always long-shot lucky sales .. but acquiring a portfolio of equal quality domains would lead to long term losses.


Please go back up and re-read what I actually wrote, because I too don't disagree with what you're saying .. but what you're saying isn't at all in context with what's being talked about here.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Nice of you to disagree with something I did not say! lol

Seriously .. you're talking about something completely different. Of course when buying domains as a domainer you should always think of their potential usage in business. That should be glaringly obvious to everyone.


What I am saying is that:

A) Coming up with a good business name.

is not the same thing as:

B) Buying domains with the intention of reselling them for profit.


Heck .. I also very specifically said that often they do match up and often a good name for a business is indeed what would make for a good domain to invest in. BUT ... What I am saying is that just because you come up with a good usable business name to use for a business doesn't NOT automatically always make the equivalent domain as good investment as a domainer.


There are some good business names that simply aren't strong enough or appropriate to invest in because the chances of selling them at an appropriate multiple is simply too low. It's not to say that some will not sell .. obviously there are always long-shot lucky sales .. but acquiring a portfolio of equal quality domains would lead to long term losses.


Please go back up and re-read what I actually wrote, because I too don't disagree with what you're saying .. but what you're saying isn't at all in context with what's being talked about here.

Nice of you to disagree with something I did not say! lol

Seriously .. you're talking about something completely different. Of course when buying domains as a domainer you should always think of their potential usage in business. That should be glaringly obvious to everyone.


What I am saying is that:

A) Coming up with a good business name.

is not the same thing as:

B) Buying domains with the intention of reselling them for profit.


Heck .. I also very specifically said that often they do match up and often a good name for a business is indeed what would make for a good domain to invest in. BUT ... What I am saying is that just because you come up with a good usable business name to use for a business doesn't NOT automatically always make the equivalent domain as good investment as a domainer.


There are some good business names that simply aren't strong enough or appropriate to invest in because the chances of selling them at an appropriate multiple is simply too low. It's not to say that some will not sell .. obviously there are always long-shot lucky sales .. but acquiring a portfolio of equal quality domains would lead to long term losses.


Please go back up and re-read what I actually wrote, because I too don't disagree with what you're saying .. but what you're saying isn't at all in context with what's being talked about here.

Here's what you said below? Do you no longer agree with what you said?

That's why I keep saying what you're doing is business development and NOT domaining.

 

[BoGoKing]

Nice of you to disagree with something I did not say! lol

Seriously .. you're talking about something completely different. Of course when buying domains as a domainer you should always think of their potential usage in business. That should be glaringly obvious to everyone.


What I am saying is that:

A) Coming up with a good business name.

is not the same thing as:

B) Buying domains with the intention of reselling them for profit.


Heck .. I also very specifically said that often they do match up and often a good name for a business is indeed what would make for a good domain to invest in. BUT ... What I am saying is that just because you come up with a good usable business name to use for a business doesn't NOT automatically always make the equivalent domain as good investment as a domainer.


There are some good business names that simply aren't strong enough or appropriate to invest in because the chances of selling them at an appropriate multiple is simply too low. It's not to say that some will not sell .. obviously there are always long-shot lucky sales .. but acquiring a portfolio of equal quality domains would lead to long term losses.


Please go back up and re-read what I actually wrote, because I too don't disagree with what you're saying .. but what you're saying isn't at all in context with what's being talked about here.

Luck has never played a roll in my success...now would you kindly leave me alone and mind your own business

 

[Ategy]

Of course I do .. but again .. that's not at all what you said ...

This statement:

That's why I keep saying what you're doing is business development and NOT domaining. ... Because naming a business is SUPER easy. Anyone can easily come up with a usable and even good business name .. but getting DOMAINS that will actually be thought of, searched for, and found by the high volume of potential buyers willing to pay a significant multiple is a very VERY different thing and vastly more challenging.

Is completely different from this statement:

To say that domaining or domains are not part of business development is completely missing the point of the value domains bring

I NEVER said that looking at the potential business development of possible businesses that could use a potential domain acquisition was not part of domaining ... IT MOST ABSOLUTELY IS! That is what you're trying to say .. and I agree with it 100% .. but it in no way has anything to do with what I'm talking about.

What I AM saying is that coming up with names for YOUR OWN business development is not the (EXACT) same thing as buying domains as a domainer with the intent to sell a portfolio at a long term profit.

BOTTOM LINE:
There are some names which are decent and usable for your own business that are simply too long-shot to be good investments (for the equivalent domain) because of the challenge of having a portfolio of equivalent names because they are too much of long-shots for the math to be profitable.

 

[Joe N]

Luck has never played a roll in my success...now would you kindly leave me alone and mind your own business

Still a public forum, Rich.

 

[Joe N]

They must feel threatened by my presence or else they wouldn't care.

Your belief is that anyone who disagrees with your opinions or methods must feel threatened by you?

 

[BoGoKing]

Still a public forum, Rich.

And as such I'm asking you politely to leave me alone and mind your own business. Is that too hard for you to understand?

 

[BoGoKing]

Your belief is that anyone who disagrees with your opinions or methods must feel threatened by you?

That's your opinion....you can't take a hint

 

[Joe N]

And as such I'm asking you politely to leave me alone and mind your own business. Is that too hard for you to understand?

Rich, there's an easy way to be left alone in a forum: stop posting. Otherwise people are free to respond as they wish as long as it's on topic and respectful.

 

[Joe N]

That's your opinion....you can't take a hint

No, that was your opinion. I'll post it again:

They must feel threatened by my presence or else they wouldn't care.

If I misunderstood, feel free to clarify.

 

[BoGoKing]

Here's what you said below? Do you no longer agree with what you said?

Internet.Domains...i know we've spoken before and some of these guys just won't give it a rest. I can't speak for you, but just a few of my 1,000 plus domains are for business development, and these guys haven't a clue what the rest of my domains are or how I plan to market them to the restaurant and food service industry, the the financial services industry, the healthcare industry, the real estate and building industries etc. ....they can speculate until the cows come home, but they really don't know

btw, in keeping with the subject line of this thread I have both "catchy" domains and "vanilla" domains. It pays to diversify Industries like financial services, healthcare and legal are plain plain "vanilla" while food service, restaurants, sports and entertainment, and some tech go both ways.

 

[BoGoKing]

Rich, there's an easy way to be left alone in a forum: stop posting. Otherwise people are free to respond as they wish as long as it's on topic and respectful.

You're OFF TOPIC right now

 

[bmugford]

You're OFF TOPIC right now

And as such I'm asking you politely to leave me alone and mind your own business. Is that too hard for you to understand?

Rich, there's an easy way to be left alone in a forum: stop posting. Otherwise people are free to respond as they wish as long as it's on topic and respectful.

So are you.

Joe was simply responding to you and trying to offer a helpful solution to your complaining.

Don't post off-topic stuff then complain when a response is off-topic.

Brad

 

[Internet.Domains]

Internet.Domains...i know we've spoken before and some of these guys just won't give it a rest. I can't speak for you, but just a few of my 1,000 plus domains are for business development, and these guys haven't a clue what the rest of my domains are or how I plan to market them to the restaurant and food service industry, the the financial services industry, the healthcare industry, the real estate and building industries etc. ....they can speculate until the cows come home, but they really don't know

btw, in keeping with the subject line of this thread I have both "catchy" domains and "vanilla" domains. It pays to diversify Industries like financial services, healthcare and legal are plain plain "vanilla" while food service, restaurants, sports and entertainment, and some tech go both ways.

I guess I differ with those opinions so against your "business development" style. We all have different strategies, different opinions, different stories, different paths, etc., etc....We should celebrate the differences, take what we can from the differences. We should absolutely not be criticizing the differences with personal attacks. I hope we, as a community, can celebrate the differences and learn from each other in a positive way.

Make something happen!

Cheers!

 

[Joe N]

You're OFF TOPIC right now

Just trying to help you solve the issue you raised. Feel free to have the mods clean all this up to the post before you took things off track.