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Question: Can I use a generic domain such as house.tel (for example) to accommodate other contacts?

If this is possible, I can resell the space on this domain?

For example: I am the owner of house.tel and I want that other companies use house.tel for fee. This is possible?

Thanks.
 
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gpalmeri said:
Question: Can I use a generic domain such as house.tel (for example) to accommodate other contacts?

If this is possible, I can resell the space on this domain?

For example: I am the owner of house.tel and I want that other companies use house.tel for fee. This is possible?

Thanks.

Yes, you can build a directory services business on your .tel domain. Check out the new Telnic community page for other FAQs you might have.
 
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My understanding is that you can sell only the use of the second level domain. You cannot sell ownership and that you have to do the updating for the client as this cannot be outsourced either to the client or to another 3rd party.
 
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Billy2009 said:
My understanding is that you can sell only the use of the second level domain. You cannot sell ownership and that you have to do the updating for the client as this cannot be outsourced either to the client or to another 3rd party.

Yup anyone can lease the subdomain to monetize .tel
 
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Billy2009 said:
My understanding is that you can sell only the use of the second level domain. You cannot sell ownership and that you have to do the updating for the client as this cannot be outsourced either to the client or to another 3rd party.

There is an API that you can use.
 
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Sorry, for stupid question but what is API?
 
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billy 2009, what .Tel domain do you own?
 
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aid.tel, swift.tel, custom.tel, johnsmith.tel, bruce.tel and a few others. Can't put others up because still cleaning up similar names - they are directories. What do you think of these ones?
 
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Billy2009 said:
aid.tel, swift.tel, custom.tel, johnsmith.tel, bruce.tel and a few others. Can't put others up because still cleaning up similar names - they are directories. What do you think of these ones?

If I were going to pick a favorite, it would be Bruce.tel. For the rest (especially johnsmith) you probably should have waited until GA.
 
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MicroGuy said:
If I were going to pick a favorite, it would be Bruce.tel. For the rest (especially johnsmith) you probably should have waited until GA.

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I agree, UNLESS OP's name is John Smith. Then it makes sense.

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MicroGuy said:
If I were going to pick a favorite, it would be Bruce.tel. For the rest (especially johnsmith) you probably should have waited until GA.

Def Bruce.tel is worthy of landrush as fellow domainers have stated but the others are marginal IMHO. Out of all the landrush names still available and at $300 a pop, there are surely better names out there to go after. Having said that, I do have one that Im guilty of landrushing that I maybe shouldnt have and that was insurancequotes.tel, lol.
 
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Thanks for the feedback. Yes, these are not my best names. However, these names would have been gone before landrush ended. Swift was the only name left among all the names that mean fast ie quick, urgent, rapid, fast, etc. It was also pre-ordered on multiple registrars. I would have thought johnsmith was ok. I'm not sure why that one is not good. To me it is like a trophy name as it is the most common name in the english speaking world. I went through the Yellow pages systematically and custom was one of the words with the most appearances. It comes up extremely highly in google, google url, and google title searches. However, I am completely new to domaining and I have to stop my self all the time from buying more! I appreciate the feedback heaps and would be really grateful for any more. Thank you.
 
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Billy2009 said:
However, these names would have been gone before landrush ended.
How do you know that? I can't imagine anyone else paying $300 for johnsmith.tel.
 
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Billy2009 said:
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, these are not my best names. However, these names would have been gone before landrush ended. Swift was the only name left among all the names that mean fast ie quick, urgent, rapid, fast, etc. It was also pre-ordered on multiple registrars. I would have thought johnsmith was ok. I'm not sure why that one is not good. To me it is like a trophy name as it is the most common name in the english speaking world. I went through the Yellow pages systematically and custom was one of the words with the most appearances. It comes up extremely highly in google, google url, and google title searches. However, I am completely new to domaining and I have to stop my self all the time from buying more! I appreciate the feedback heaps and would be really grateful for any more. Thank you.

If you are new in domaining, I don't think .tel is the way to start... especially $300/3 years.
I see good generic names in other ccTLD and gTLD that doesn't sell for over $300 with $7-$30 in yearly renewal fee.
It is extremely speculative at this moment, and very restrictive in what you can do in terms of development.
With the dev restriction, it'll also restrict the number of potential end users as they may have other things planned out for a name.

I would read a lot of the threads from namepros.com before registering any more domains to minimize the risks.
 
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mrdomainman said:
If you are new in domaining, I don't think .tel is the way to start... especially $300/3 years.
I see good generic names in other ccTLD and gTLD that doesn't sell for over $300 with $7-$30 in yearly renewal fee.
It is extremely speculative at this moment, and very restrictive in what you can do in terms of development.
With the dev restriction, it'll also restrict the number of potential end users as they may have other things planned out for a name.

I would read a lot of the threads from namepros.com before registering any more domains to minimise the risks.

Yes, the names (perhaps apart from bruce.tel- but maybe even including) are speculative. Best Premium generic names will undoubtedly be worth quite a bit more than reg fee even at $300, but what constitutes best keywords in the .tel tld has yet to be determined by auction- will it be plumbers.tel for example or casinos.tel (casinos.tel could be sold to a casino operator perhaps- it's not difficult to see it's value being equally quite high, also, the Epoll survey undertaken by telnic seems to indicate strong demand for the .tel tld for business at least from those surveyed (these were apparently business people who have the authority to make buying decisions for the companies concerned). Like it or not, .tel provides a useful solution at least for business. Let's not also forget that by building a directory with a lot of back links and keywords, it is possible to optimise quite well as proved by jamarie.vip.tel.
 
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MicroGuy said:
How do you know that? I can't imagine anyone else paying $300 for johnsmith.tel.
Thank you for your comments. We are dealing with uncertainty. In favour of the name I noted that the registrars I deal with had pre-orders for this name. There was interest but not enough for someone to register. However, it was early in the Landrush process. I decided that the name John Smith could have a trophy value. Combining a first and a surname reduces the probability of a sale, it is true. Smith may have x potential buyers. John and Smith combined may have x/200 potential buyers. The Smith surname was not available (surnames have been snapped up quickly; faster than first names).

I could not assign a value to a trophy. So then I thought; what if my name was John Smith? Assuming that .tel is successful (uncertain) then anywhere I go, whoever I meet, I can just tell them my .tel is JohnSmith. It could make things easier for me in business and personally. This has an economic value.

I then thought that the potential buyers for this name are not necessarily called John Smith because, if the trophy value is real and .tel takes off it would be an investment for anyone.

So I concluded, rightly or wrongly, that common+trophy was sufficient to make the purchase. My thinking may be flawed. I know very little about domaining. Appreciate any comments at all.

mrdomainman said:
If you are new in domaining, I don't think .tel is the way to start... especially $300/3 years.
I see good generic names in other ccTLD and gTLD that doesn't sell for over $300 with $7-$30 in yearly renewal fee.
It is extremely speculative at this moment, and very restrictive in what you can do in terms of development.
With the dev restriction, it'll also restrict the number of potential end users as they may have other things planned out for a name.

I would read a lot of the threads from namepros.com before registering any more domains to minimize the risks.

Thank you for your advice. Good points. So much is uncertain. I am trying to reduce risk by spreading my .tels over the full range of .tel applications; Geo, first name, surname, generic, etc, not unlike a portfolio of shares. I am not putting that much into it. Very interested in your comments about generic ccTLD's. Where is a good place to look for them?

Am trying to read as must as I can. I have some ideas but I am a newbie. Much appreciated.

phase111 said:
Yes, the names (perhaps apart from bruce.tel- but maybe even including) are speculative. Best Premium generic names will undoubtedly be worth quite a bit more than reg fee even at $300, but what constitutes best keywords in the .tel tld has yet to be determined by auction- will it be plumbers.tel for example or casinos.tel (casinos.tel could be sold to a casino operator perhaps- it's not difficult to see it's value being equally quite high, also, the Epoll survey undertaken by telnic seems to indicate strong demand for the .tel tld for business at least from those surveyed (these were apparently business people who have the authority to make buying decisions for the companies concerned). Like it or not, .tel provides a useful solution at least for business. Let's not also forget that by building a directory with a lot of back links and keywords, it is possible to optimise quite well as proved by jamarie.vip.tel.

Yes, it's all speculative. I have picked up some generics which I think are exceptional :imho: . I think generics have the most potential of all. Then picked up some new .com's for directories at only $8 each.

Rolling the dice with fingers crossed. :hehe:
 
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Billy's got b*lls that's for sure! :hehe:

He's new, but he admits it and is still okay with taking the leap for what he believes in.

Regardless of how right or wrong his choices may be (which still remains to be seen either way, I pass no judgement), I like his enthusiasm and commitment :great:
 
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Thanks for the Response Billy.

I used the google keywords tool along with thinking about what people generally would type in to find something when they are on a mobile phone.

my criteria was atleast 2mil searches per month on google keyword tool. and upwards of 40mil results on google.

that way atleast you know their will be some volume and call volume if .Tel pans out.

my domain as some of you know is Pills.tel

I also picked up Ratings.Tel
 
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aliencafe said:
my criteria was atleast 2mil searches per month on google keyword tool. and upwards of 40mil results on google.

Don't abuse this metric though - its meaning can easily be misconstrued, depending on the term, and there's no accounting for the value of each of those searches/leads either.

I can tell you one of my names gets < 1 million Google searches /month but I think it's far more valuable than another name I have receiving 50+ million searches. And in the "real world" that name probably receives many multiples of its Google search count, through other means.

For a bit of ridiculousness I calculated that my entire .tel portfolio (~30 names) receives 430 million Google searches /month on average, which would represent about 8% of all Google searches done! B-)
 
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