question Buy with installment & sell with installment at the same time (?)

[Andreas B.]

There is a domain I may would acquire, however BIN is too high, therefore installment is acceptable.

Problem is, I cannot list the domain for (installment) sale elsewhere, as long as my installment goes...

Which I totally understand; still, it'd be great to faciliate a sale somehow.


Do you guys may know of any sort of direct contract, that allows me to get the domain by installment, sell it the next day,
and do it all b2c (directly, with the client, without any selling platform inbetween)?!


That is the way I'd go;
sign a contract with the other party, either for installment payment or payment now / delivery later,
change nameservers to clients NS and that 's it.


If he cancels his installment, I cancel mine; if he pays, I pay mine.

And everybody is happy.

 

[Nathan K]

Do you already have a client ready to purchase?

 

[bmugford]

Do you already have a client ready to purchase?

No, just prospectives.

But the domain is quite good, and I wouldn't have a problem to pay 1 or 2 installments for nothing...

This is a good example of why I don't enable LTO in general.

A buyer could enter into a LTO deal with hardly any skin in the game, then possibly burn through all the end user leads by pitching the domain for sale. It could also create some issues, including legal, for the owner.

Then the LTO buyer could just walk away, leaving the owner to deal with the fallout.

Brad

 

[Andreas B.]

Do you already have a client ready to purchase?

No, just prospectives.

But the domain is quite good, and I wouldn't have a problem to pay 1 or 2 installments for nothing...

 

[Andreas B.]

This is a good example of why I don't enable LTO in general.

A buyer could enter into a LTO deal with hardly any skin in the game, then possibly burn through all the end user leads by pitching the domain for sale. It could also create some issues, including legal, for the owner.

Then the LTO buyer could just walk away, leaving the owner to deal with the fallout.

Brad

Sure, you are right.

I am not that kind of guy outbounding like a crazy maniac, though

If I'd posses the domain, there are 3 to 4 clients I'd contact, with a very short pitch (naming the domain, one sentence), and that's it.


If nothing turns out positively, I'd have to end the installment, as you said.

However, I think I could sell the domain for a decent price, that is (def.) higher than the one for which it is offered right now.



Then again, installments as they are, are quite useful.

I sold a domain with installment, for a good 4 figure price, and the client is paying since +1 year.

 

[Andreas B.]

Real problem is though, that @GoDaddy disabled the possibility, to pay the whole price once, when you have an ongoing installment.

 

[CashproofDomains.com]

There is a domain I may would acquire, however BIN is too high, therefore installment is acceptable.

Problem is, I cannot list the domain for (installment) sale elsewhere, as long as my installment goes...

Which I totally understand; still, it'd be great to faciliate a sale somehow.


Do you guys may know of any sort of direct contract, that allows me to get the domain by installment, sell it the next day,
and do it all b2c (directly, with the client, without any selling platform inbetween)?!


That is the way I'd go;
sign a contract with the other party, either for installment payment or payment now / delivery later,
change nameservers to clients NS and that 's it.


If he cancels his installment, I cancel mine; if he pays, I pay mine.

And everybody is happy.

Here is an appropriate, constructive reply you can post:

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@Andreas

Interesting situation — thanks for sharing.

What you’re suggesting (buying a domain on installment and then immediately reselling it under a parallel agreement) is logically appealing, but it comes with a few practical and legal risks you should be aware of.

What’s possible:
Yes, in theory you can create a direct B2C contract with your buyer stating that:

• You transfer/use their nameservers
• They pay you installments
• If they stop paying, you revoke control
  However, most installment agreements from sellers or platforms explicitly prohibit resale or transfer until the full balance is paid. Even if the seller allows DNS control, they generally require the domain to remain locked and non-transferable until payments are completed.
  So you’d need explicit written permission.

Risks to consider:

1. Seller restrictions — If your seller’s contract forbids sublicensing, leasing, or resale, doing so could void your deal.
2. Chain of dependency — If your buyer stops paying you, and you stop paying the seller, the seller can reclaim the domain — your buyer gets nothing, and you carry liability.
3. Trust / enforceability — You’d need a legally vetted contract to protect both ends. International enforcement can be difficult.
4. DNS control ≠ ownership — Giving your buyer nameserver control does not give them any protection or guarantee — they might not accept that arrangement.
5. Reputation risk — If the deal collapses, both sides could blame you.
   Possible safer alternatives:
6. Negotiate with the seller — Ask if they allow subleasing or resale while under installment; they might allow it with an addendum.
7. Use escrow / third-party legal contract — A lawyer-drafted agreement with clear fallback terms could help.
8. Convert to buy-now with delayed transfer — Ask your buyer to commit upfront; once you complete payment, you transfer.
9. Find bridge financing — If you’re confident in the end sale, a short-term loan / investor might be cleaner.

Reality check
Your “If he cancels, I cancel mine” approach seems simple, but legally the original owner doesn’t care about your downstream arrangement — you’re still responsible for your own installment contract.

So unless all 3 parties agree formally, it’s risky.

TL;DR:
Yes — it’s theoretically possible with a custom contract that explicitly permits resale before full payment. But you must involve the seller and likely a lawyer. Otherwise it can violate your agreement and expose you to liability.

Hope that helps — curious to hear how others have handled this scenario!

 

[bmugford]

Real problem is though, that @GoDaddy disabled the possibility, to pay the whole price once, when you have an ongoing installment.

Are you sure about that?

GoDaddy is getting their commission whether it is in one payment or multiple payments. You would think they would rather have the full commission earlier.

On the LTO page, it states -

https://www.godaddy.com/help/what-is-a-lease-to-own-domain-41829

• Early payoff
  
  • If you wish to have full control of the domain earlier than your originally contracted lease you can complete payment for any remaining installments at any time.

 

[Nathan K]

If neither you nor your your client(s) have enough cash to afford the domain outright, then you may not be in a position to facilitate the deal.

If you have potential clients who can afford the domain, then you could reach out to the current domain owner and offer to bring them a customer in exchange for a commission on the sale.

 

[Andreas B.]

Are you sure about that?

GoDaddy is getting their commission whether it is in one payment or multiple payments. You would think they would rather have the full commission earlier.

On the LTO page, it states -

https://www.godaddy.com/help/what-is-a-lease-to-own-domain-41829

I read this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922014434043543934

 

[Andreas B.]

If neither you nor your your client(s) have enough cash to afford the domain outright, then you may not be in a position to facilitate the deal.

If you have potential clients who can afford the domain, then you could reach out to the current domain owner and offer to bring them a customer in exchange for a commission on the sale.

That's wishful thinking, which actually never works out.

Clients I'd contact are from the industry; they'd have the money if they're interested...

 

[bmugford]

I read this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922014434043543934

That doesn't make sense.

Maybe @GoDaddy can clarify.

In the past I was also told that all LTO payments had to be equal, but a GoDaddy broker recently brought a LTO offer to me that included a higher down payment. So, I am not sure what is going on with that either.

Brad

 

[DomainRecap]

If you have potential clients who can afford the domain, then you could reach out to the current domain owner and offer to bring them a customer in exchange for a commission on the sale.

Sure, but that's frontrunning, which is another big scam in the domain business.

One frontrunning meathead in particular has lost owners several valuable domains through UDRP. If he did that to me, I'd be suing him back to the stone age.

 

[Nathan K]

Sure, but that's frontrunning, which is another big scam in the domain business.

One frontrunning meathead in particular has lost owners several domains through UDRP. If he did that to me, I'd be suing him back to the stone age.

Please explain how it is frontrunning. It does not match the definition that I am familiar with.

What I am describing is basically a domain broker.

 

[Andreas B.]

Sure, but that's frontrunning, which is another big scam in the domain business.

One frontrunning meathead in particular has lost owners several valuable domains through UDRP. If he did that to me, I'd be suing him back to the stone age.

How does that happen?

You contact a company over a domain name, they sue you (claim UDRP), and your client loses his domain?

Crazy.

 

[Andreas B.]

Here is an appropriate, constructive reply you can post:

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@Andreas

Interesting situation — thanks for sharing.

What you’re suggesting (buying a domain on installment and then immediately reselling it under a parallel agreement) is logically appealing, but it comes with a few practical and legal risks you should be aware of.

What’s possible:
Yes, in theory you can create a direct B2C contract with your buyer stating that:

• You transfer/use their nameservers
• They pay you installments
• If they stop paying, you revoke control
  However, most installment agreements from sellers or platforms explicitly prohibit resale or transfer until the full balance is paid. Even if the seller allows DNS control, they generally require the domain to remain locked and non-transferable until payments are completed.
  So you’d need explicit written permission.

Risks to consider:

1. Seller restrictions — If your seller’s contract forbids sublicensing, leasing, or resale, doing so could void your deal.
2. Chain of dependency — If your buyer stops paying you, and you stop paying the seller, the seller can reclaim the domain — your buyer gets nothing, and you carry liability.
3. Trust / enforceability — You’d need a legally vetted contract to protect both ends. International enforcement can be difficult.
4. DNS control ≠ ownership — Giving your buyer nameserver control does not give them any protection or guarantee — they might not accept that arrangement.
5. Reputation risk — If the deal collapses, both sides could blame you.
   Possible safer alternatives:
6. Negotiate with the seller — Ask if they allow subleasing or resale while under installment; they might allow it with an addendum.
7. Use escrow / third-party legal contract — A lawyer-drafted agreement with clear fallback terms could help.
8. Convert to buy-now with delayed transfer — Ask your buyer to commit upfront; once you complete payment, you transfer.
9. Find bridge financing — If you’re confident in the end sale, a short-term loan / investor might be cleaner.

Reality check
Your “If he cancels, I cancel mine” approach seems simple, but legally the original owner doesn’t care about your downstream arrangement — you’re still responsible for your own installment contract.

So unless all 3 parties agree formally, it’s risky.

TL;DR:
Yes — it’s theoretically possible with a custom contract that explicitly permits resale before full payment. But you must involve the seller and likely a lawyer. Otherwise it can violate your agreement and expose you to liability.

Hope that helps — curious to hear how others have handled this scenario!

is this an AI response, lmao... ?

thanks for sharing.

 

[bmugford]

Please explain how it is frontrunning. It does not match the definition that I am familiar with.

What I am describing is basically a domain broker.

A domain broker should have permission to pitch someone's domain, not just see some domain for sale and spam a bunch of potential buyers.

I certainly would not want some random party marketing my domains without permission. It can lead to all sorts of issues, like bringing trademark issues to a domain that doesn't inherently have them.

Brad

 

[Future Sensors]

 

[Future Sensors]

Here is an appropriate, constructive reply you can post:

Not again.

 

[Nathan K]

A domain broker should have permission to pitch someone's domain

That is exactly what I was suggesting. Contact the current domain owner, explain that you have contacts within the industry, and offer to bring them a customer in exchange for a commission.

I suppose I may have made some incorrect assumptions about OP's relationship with potential clients.