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Businesses with no website

Located in Domain Beginners, started by Mindfulmarketing, Oct 10, 2021

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  1. Mindfulmarketing

    Mindfulmarketing New Member

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    Recently I’ve been scraping google maps and yellow pages for businesses with a good number of positive reviews that currently do not have a website

    for example If the business’s name is Ashley’s Flowers I would buy the domain AshleysFlowers.com and try to sell them on it through email. I feel like if I buy up 100-500 business domains following this method I can achieve consistent profits throughout the year.

    has anyone else tried this method? Do you see this method as a potential way to make consistent profits?
     
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  2. VadimK Iberica

    VadimK Iberica Established Member

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    You will face three large problems:
    1. For a good chunk of companies that don't have the websites, the domain names that are 100% sound like their name, will be taken.
    2. Another big part of companies simply will never be interested, because if they don't have a website in 2021 it means they:
    a) sell it somewhere else online (like Amazon)
    b) never needed, never will need to have a site by the nature of their business
    3. Most of the remaining (and small!) part that will be interested in theory, will think: hey, why would I buy AshleysFlowers.com from this guy for $500 if I can register AshleysPlaceFlowers.com for $10? (good luck explaining to them the SEO rules and the advantage of matching domain to business name).
    At the end you'll be left with hundreds of names that you spent money on registering, and 1-2 names sold, that will never justify the cost of the rest, let alone the time and effort.

    But if you want to try this strategy, do it smarter: buy some dot com names that are registered in other TLDs with live sites, and offer it to them. You will see it's very hard already, but at least in this case you know - these companies do value their name , and com is always more popular than anything else. At least this way you won't throw money at hundreds of useless domain names... (although the dot com names taken in other extensions will be more expensive than hand-reg).
    Good luck!
     
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  3. comRaid

    comRaid Established Member

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    In my limited experience, most small businesses with non .com tlds are not ready to spend even 100$ for .com . Note: Only two of among dozen of businesses, I experimented was from US.
     
  4. damance

    damance Top Contributor VIP

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    they dont have website because they dont need website
     
  5. VadimK Iberica

    VadimK Iberica Established Member

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    Totally agree. But at least if he wants to try the idea of selling to the existing businesses, this way (other tld) 1-2 out of 20 might get interested, while in the initial idea (when no website at all) - I think it's more like 1 in 200...
     
  6. johnn

    johnn WeSellName.com PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    They don't have the website because they don't understand the importance of the website or they don't care.

    I do this but only for companies in my hometown or surrounding areas:

    I come to talk to the owner and explain the importance of having the website and offer complete solution:
    - Domain Name
    - Web site design & hosting
    - SEO
    - Email
    - Google listing

    Payment can be on one time or spread out from 6 months to a year.
     
  7. defsmmfs fsefmskf

    defsmmfs fsefmskf New Member

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    I saw a group of .co sales in another thread...

    MRB//law. co - $1,788 - DAN
    Burgess//Yachts. co - $1,788 - DAN
    Mitra//Tech. co - $1,788 - Afternic
    Tango//e. co - $1,788 - Afternic
    Web//San. co - $1,200 - DAN
    Teijin//Aramid. co - $900 - DAN
    Katz//Kin. co - $800 - DAN
    Nex//amp. co - $500 - DAN
    Mc//Logan. co - $425 - DAN
    Tensar//Corp. co - $200 - DAN
    x//Tuple. co - $100 - DAN

    After doing research on these names, they all are registered in atleast 2 other TLDs including .com. Would you assume these sales are because the company found value in being registered in multiple TLDs?
     
  8. VadimK Iberica

    VadimK Iberica Established Member

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    It's totally possible, but not necessarily. Many times different tlds belong to different companies.
    In this case, for example NexAmp - yes, you can see a few first extensions (and co as well) are leading to the same page. So, correct, the same company bought it.
    But you can never predict which extension they want next (and who wants which extension in the first place). On top, these are large companies and there are trademark problems (for example, this name is trademarked too - NexAmp).
     
  9. BRANDERX.COM

    BRANDERX.COM Top Contributor VIP

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    I think this would qualify as cybersquatting, if you do it in that order.
     
  10. Deven Patel

    Deven Patel Founder, Alter.com Blue Account

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    A lot of great points by others but the biggest issue which nobody has mentioned is this is against the law. Well, at least in terms of it being classified as cybersquatting.

    If you register a domain solely to target an existing business then that business can file a UDRP case against you and you would lose that domain. That actually makes sense because you would be trying to profit off of their existing brand which doesn't sound that fair. It's kind of like selling knockoff products.

    Besides, as others have mentioned already those businesses most likely aren't going to buy from you because if they valued the domain, they would've bought it already ($10/yr isn't a huge investment compared to their existing operational costs).

    I think the only tried and true approach to domaining is to invest in quality names that can appeal to a variety of buyers looking to start new businesses/products/services. I'm not aware of any "hack" that performs better than that. If there was, I'm sure someone would've already figured it out considering the thousands of domainers out there and we all would be taking advantage of it by now. :)
     
  11. Ajet

    Ajet Established Member

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    What tools do you use to scrap Gmap and Yellow pages?
     
  12. Ajet

    Ajet Established Member

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    What tools do you use?
    Free or paid?

    Thanks.
     
  13. Mindfulmarketing

    Mindfulmarketing New Member

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    no tools currently, I go fishing manually
     
  14. Jason Baudendistel

    Jason Baudendistel CEO Wibbets Inc

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    I don't see this ending well but best of luck.
     
  15. olcayto

    olcayto NameFree.net

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    My friends opened their fitness center and i saw that the name they use at instagram exactly exist in .com I called them and asked them to reg .com

    After 6 months i checked again and see that .com domain is still available.

    My point is if your business targeted locally you may not need a website at all. Or some kind of business just need some social media exposures when they first start.
     
  16. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Top Member NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    This ^^^^
    I was just about to respond, but Deven has already clearly outlined it. Please read what he wrote carefully and take it to heart. Trying to profit from the name of an existing business is just asking for the headache of a UDRP, or worse. Sure, most small operations would not bother pursuing it, but you only need one.
     
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  17. jhm

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    Good point made by @Deven Patel

    This day in age regardless of size, I am surprised a lot of businesses don't have their online. I completely agree, it may not be necessary for a large number of businesses to go there, such as a small flower business, but an online presence does exude customer confidence
     
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  18. lock

    lock Searchrz.com VIP

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    I am deleting most of my WP sites as once you have too many it becomes a nightmare too many hacks. So try it with html no time to keep repairing so dumping all my blogs parking it. Already gaining traffic by deleting loads of content. Content is king but not when you really need a complete reinstall.
     
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  19. The Durfer

    The Durfer Wesley Sweatman VIP

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    why not make a facebook page of the company and sell that page?
     
  20. PatrickV

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    You need to be more creative ... GLTA!
     

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