.tv BING, Yahoo, Google & .TV

[garptrader]

I have always noticed that it was much easier to rank .TV sites at Yahoo and seemingly impossible at Google. I never really paid much attention to BING until recently. However, checking several sites recently it appears that Bing gives .TV a fair chance - not the boost I see with an exact match .Net domain but at least you get to the top 3-7 pages and with some extra effort perhaps in the future you could do much better. With Google it seems my .tv sites only get longtail search query traffic or image search traffic & never get ranked in the top twelve pages of Google.

But I noticed one site which starting March 22nd went vertical. Previously VestidosdeNovia.tv (wedding dresses in Spanish) was getting around twenty visitors a day though this was lower prior to Christmas and higher in January. Since March 22nd, traffic varies between 50 and up to 100 visitors daily the last few days with nearly all that boost coming from BING. The site is only on page 5 in the US but checking analytics the traffic originates primarily from Latin America & Spain - perhaps the ranking is higher when searching from those countries. No meaningful updates have made to the site in months. Hopefully the BING effect will spread to other sites...

 

[SecureLance]

I have always noticed that it was much easier to rank .TV sites at Yahoo and seemingly impossible at Google. I never really paid much attention to BING until recently. However, checking several sites recently it appears that Bing gives .TV a fair chance - not the boost I see with an exact match .Net domain but at least you get to the top 3-7 pages and with some extra effort perhaps in the future you could do much better. With Google it seems my .tv sites only get longtail search query traffic or image search traffic & never get ranked in the top twelve pages of Google.

Google does not rank-up IDN names either. They are probably looking at TLD popularity (Number of TLDs that are sold, and Number of Active Websites with the TLD) for ranking high in search results, which will definitely prevent it's users from access to useful information on other TLDs.

 

[garptrader]

Yahoo does seem to treat .TV domains well as a site we launched in latter February PembrokePines.tv is positioned currently in the top half of page one only six weeks later at Yahoo for "Pembroke Pines" "Pembroke Pines Florida" & "Pembroke Pines FL"

 

[Jeff]

I think if the content / development is good, up-to-date, and RELEVANT ... and known SEO techniques are employed intelligently and efficiently; I see no reason (or know or have heard of no obstacle in their weightings / algorithim) why good, meaningful .TV websites wouldn't be ranked accordingly (on just about any platform; Google, Bing, or Yahoo), IMHO.
Build exciting, content-rich 'video-centric' .TV's! :yell: :imho:

Regards,
Jeff

 

[RogueWriter]

I have always noticed that it was much easier to rank .TV sites at Yahoo and seemingly impossible at Google.

I haven't had issues getting .tv ranked at google, at least no more than my .coms. It seems a bit easier to het ranked well at the other engines, but that holds true for all the extensions I am in. JMO, of course!

 

[equity78]

I have had better luck with Yahoo too.

 

[garptrader]

Someone mentioned Google Webmaster Tools & changing the geo targeting. I gave it a try with several domains. If I see any result I may try doing this with other domains. I suppose I need to give it some time to see if there is any impact.

 

[Makis.TV]

I dont know if its only for .tv or just cctld but Google is definitely not treating the same as .com compared to Yahoo and Bing.
2 years stats say so...

 

[RogueWriter]

The thing that ticks me off about bing is that, say, if you search for whatever < keyword > .tv , the very top result for bing is a question that reads, "Were you looking for whatever < keyword > .com ?"

Now, that wouldn't be so bad, if the opposite were true, whenever you searched for the .com it would ask if you were really looking for the .tv, lol, but seriously, that is irritating; Search engines should know by now that if the surfer types in an extension into the search bar, they are looking for that specific domain ending in that specific extension, not simply the .com .

Someone over at bing needs to get their head out of their @ss and fix that, imo. The world is more than .com, thank you, Bing, I thought you were supposed to be intuitive.

 

[garptrader]

I guess it is worthwhile if you aren't getting traffic at BING (or any other major search engine as well) to make sure your site is indexed. I recall that previously it was difficult to find a website submission tool at MSN so I may have overlooked BING for several sites. Anyway I was just checking several sites and found they weren't even indexed so I resubmitted. You can use this tool...

URL Submission - Bing

 

[garptrader]

I will add that VestidosdeNovia.tv was the first .TV site I attempted (last April) so perhaps BING puts .TV sites in the sandbox nearly a year before they start to gain traction. The site has now seen 100 or more visitors a day for eight consecutive days. In the last month, over half the traffic originates from Mexico with Spain getting about 8% and from there the US, Colombia, Argentina, Venezuela, Chile, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Guatemala & other Latin American countries. Google images from the various counties actually produce more visitors than Google search and Yahoo search combined.

 

[ViReal]

I have had no problem ranking .tv's in number 2-5 in weak markets. I have never gone after a super competitive keyword with a dot .tv though.

 

[garptrader]

Note that Bing & Yahoo search results have merged so they should be very similar. Both place more emphasis on the exact match domain than one would see at Google particularly for non .COM/.Net domains. Obviously you want your titles and megatag to include certain keywords for which you want the site to rank. Those keywords should also appear on your homepage. Consequently we are still seeing much higher search rankings at Bing & Yahoo for a number of sites for exact match & longtail searches. However, there is far more search volume at Google.

Fresh content and link building aid search ranking at Google. Just in the last week our site PembrokePines.tv found its way to page one of Google for the search phrase "Pembroke Pines Florida" while our site Doral.tv ranks on page two of Google for "Doral FL" (more work to do but progress) and our site Rutinas.tv now ranks on page one of Google for "rutinas de gimnasio" "rutinas de ejercicio" "rutinas de aerobicos" & "rutinas de pesas"