discuss Backorder services : DynaDot vs GoDaddy

[GeorgeQuang]

Hello guys,
I'm now focusing in this 2 poor backorder services to get some low-quality names but i think they can be sold in the future. For Pheenix, DropCatch , SnapName and Name Jet : they are too big to discuss in this thread.
- DynaDot :
Friendly for users
Having its own auctions
Having some registrars to catch Pending Delete Name ( DynaDot - Dynadot 17 in ICANN registrar list)
Low fee : only $16.
- GD :
Biggest register
Having its own huge auctions
Having some registrars to catch Pending Delete Name
Higher fee than DynaDot (see GD tariff table below)
1-19 credits - $24.98/ea
20-49 credits - $19.98/ea Save 20%
50-99 credits - $18.73/ea Save 25%
100+ credits - $17.48/ea Save 30%

I prefer GD, because almost my domains have been registered with GD, furthermore, they can be listed on Afternic partner-network - a huge market too sell than DynaDot tiny Auction.
So what do you think ?
Which is best ?

 

[italsat]

If you want to save your money, you can try www.70ym.com. The 75CNY($12) beats dynadot and godaddy.

i Need learn chinese for use it

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Dynadot increased their backorder price, and here's the result, really really bad services.

noncarbon.com 2017/09/10 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
alexcomputer.com 2017/09/10 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
wheellab.com 2017/09/10 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
bioretail.com 2017/09/10 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
flamingice.com 2017/09/09 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
civicsafety.com 2017/09/09 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
ecotempo.com 2017/09/09 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
originalmarket.com 2017/09/09 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
primerealtors.com 2017/09/09 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
allocafe.com 2017/09/08 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
deltasand.com 2017/09/08 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
premiumheating.com 2017/09/07 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
wheelyclean.com 2017/09/07 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
gourmetvillage.com 2017/09/06 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
belltrading.com 2017/09/05 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
steelhaven.com 2017/09/05 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
premiumsoda.com 2017/09/03 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
xpertoffice.com 2017/09/03 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
cobico.com 2017/09/03 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
sologreen.com 2017/09/02 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
gazonline.com 2017/09/02 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
gardeningmart.com 2017/09/01 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed
highpr.com 2017/09/01 10:45 Privacy Added:No Success
floralpros.com 2017/09/01 10:45 Privacy Added:No Success
autodragon.com 2017/09/01 10:45 Privacy Added:No Failed

I already said above that Dyna is good for .org/.info only.
And price has no any impact on their results.

 

[Dynadot]

Hello everyone. We wanted to thank you for your input. It has been heard and considered. Increasing the success rate of our API and backorder service is something we continue to work on. We have been adding more Registry connections and will continue to do so whenever possible. Our overall success rate has increased by 20% in the last 6 months. We expect that will continue to grow.

 

[GeorgeQuang]

Hello everyone. We wanted to thank you for your input. It has been heard and considered. Increasing the success rate of our API and backorder service is something we continue to work on. We have been adding more Registry connections and will continue to do so whenever possible. Our overall success rate has increased by 20% in the last 6 months. We expect that will continue to grow.

Hi Team,
We are awaiting your change in the future,
One more factor i think that you must change: your Expired Auction process. Unlike GoDaddy Auctions or Pheenix or DropCatch, when a domain got bid in less than 5 mins, the Auction's time will not reset to 5 mins, it just continue to the end. So to win an auctions, the easiest thing people can do is using proxy bid or bot to bid plus 1$ when the auctions nearly close.
Sometimes, i thought i just bid in the early 2000s Ebay auctions
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For API system, Dynadot has the best API up to now ( i always using DynaDot and NameSilo API and DynaDot beats NameSilo to catch names all time). But sometimes it gets errors (it takes 20-30s for each error) , i think you should take a look and fix it.

 

[Asfas1000]

I think Dynadot's bidding system for expired auctions is the best. No reason to waste more time with extensions.

 

[Isac]

I can reg faster than Godaddy

 

[Dynadot]

@GeorgeQuang
You're not the first to request an extension if a bid comes in at the last minute. I'm not sure how other Registrars handle their auctions, but at Dynadot, we auction domains in the last 10 days of the Renewal Grace period. In order to get the domain to the new owner before the domain reaches Redemption, we need to maintain a strict cut-off time. As it is, the winner only has 48 hours after the auction ends to submit payment . We feel proxy bidding is a good solution for this problem, but I'll bring it up for discussion again to see if we can make an helpful changes.

 

[WeSell-Domains]

But sometimes it gets errors (it takes 20-30s for each error)

The error usually means they have more requests for registry connections than are available to them. During peak ordering times we all seem to get these errors. Dynadot uses a priority system to decides who gets the connections during peak times. The more you spend with them the more connections and therefore the less errors you get. Last time I checked they want $5000 for their super bulk pricing and highest priority connections. If you have deep pockets but it may be worth it to you.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I don't like their algorithm at all...
Because the higher your speed - the lower your chances to win...
https://www.dynadot.com/community/blog/2014/01/getting-the-most-out-of-api.html
This is applicable if you use Dyna API daily...

Regarding NameSilo API...
It is not bad if you know how to use it properly...

 

[Dynadot]

I don't like their algorithm at all...
Because the higher your speed - the lower your chances to win.../QUOTE]

It's designed to give everyone a chance.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I have tried many APIs... and never saw such designs.
Only at Dynadot it depends on money and on the request volume for previous day...

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Also I don't understand why Dyna backorder is NOT prioritized over API-users...
For what service you charge such prices??? If I can beat your backorder easily even via your own API!

 

[Dynadot]

Also I don't understand why Dyna backorder is NOT prioritized over API-users...
For what service you charge such prices??? If I can beat your backorder easily even via your own API!

We've invested a lot of time and resources in our backorder system. The API is another great option. You can use it, along with your own script or software, to catch dropping domains without paying the backorder fee. That is a feature our customers appreciate and we do not want to lessen its value by prioritizing one service over the other.

 

[dr manos]

We've invested a lot of time and resources in our backorder system. The API is another great option. You can use it, along with your own script or software, to catch dropping domains without paying the backorder fee. That is a feature our customers appreciate and we do not want to lessen its value by prioritizing one service over the other.

I use it many years and can say that is one of the greatest assets in domain scene

 

[DoNotTrackMyIP]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but if trying to catch a dropped domain via API, the goal would be to send "register" API calls during the appointed drop times per the API spec of whichever service is being used (e.g. Dynadot) correct? Vs using backorder calls? Thanks.

 

[Dynadot]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but if trying to catch a dropped domain via API, the goal would be to send "register" API calls during the appointed drop times per the API spec of whichever service is being used (e.g. Dynadot) correct? Vs using backorder calls? Thanks.

No problem at all. If you are trying to catch a dropped domain via API, you would be attempting to hand-register the domain. So in using Dynadot API, you would send out the "register" command, which is different from the "backorder" commands. Those would only allow you to add a backorder request prior to drop or delete any existing requests or pull up a list of all your requests.

Best Regards,
Jordan Kai
Dynadot Support Team

 

[twiki]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but if trying to catch a dropped domain via API, the goal would be to send "register" API calls during the appointed drop times per the API spec of whichever service is being used (e.g. Dynadot) correct? Vs using backorder calls? Thanks.

See the answer above from Dynadot, and:

- For high value / competition domains, use the backorder.

- For low competition, domains that might be free for minutes, you can definitely use the API.

It's important to make an educated guess if you want to save money.

Otherwise, if you want to make sure you get it, go for backorder.

 

[DoNotTrackMyIP]

No problem at all. If you are trying to catch a dropped domain via API, you would be attempting to hand-register the domain. So in using Dynadot API, you would send out the "register" command, which is different from the "backorder" commands. Those would only allow you to add a backorder request prior to drop or delete any existing requests or pull up a list of all your requests.

Best Regards,
Jordan Kai
Dynadot Support Team

Hey thanks Jordan!

See the answer above from Dynadot, and:

- For high value / competition domains, use the backorder.

- For low competition, domains that might be free for minutes, you can definitely use the API.

It's important to make an educated guess if you want to save money.

Otherwise, if you want to make sure you get it, go for backorder.

Thanks @twiki, so if I understand

1) If it's a domain offered on NJ/DC/SN don't bother with API, just BO with that company
2) Else - fairgame and API increases higher chance of success with reg (faster than BO'ing or handreg with Dyna or any other registrar)

Is that correct?

Thanks.

 

[twiki]

Hey thanks Jordan!
Thanks @twiki, so if I understand

1) If it's a domain offered on NJ/DC/SN don't bother with API, just BO with that company
2) Else - fairgame and API increases higher chance of success with reg (faster than BO'ing or handreg with Dyna or any other registrar)

Is that correct?

Thanks.

2) API is the slowest, way behind the BO and in the same line with hand reg.

Edit: It's more for convenience than actual speed of catch.

 

[Milosz Gawron]

dynadot n1 for me

 

[Epeople]

It's is good dynadot parking ?

 

[manpreet]

Dynadot is good for .org/.info only...
GD - no comments.

Agreed.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Dynadot is good for .org/.info only...

+ .PRO, they improved it in 2019.

 

[Milosz Gawron]

It's is good dynadot parking ?

What You mean by parking ? if You want get something from parking (i mean cash) than it's not right way if You just want park to make landpages to sell or etc than ok.

 

[Epeople]

Thanks for replaying me