.asia scam??

[dugu]

I registered a few .asia domains with Godaddy, right after the countdown ended. The process went through, and I have paid for them. After a while, I revied this kind of emails from godaddy:

"Dear Dugu,

The following domain name has failed to be registered:

BANGKOK.ASIA

Error: Add domain failed for BANGKOK.ASIA: 2306:Parameter value policy error (bangkok.asia is reserved for sunrise1 application)

We will evaluate this error and retry the registration
if appropriate.

If we are unable to successfully register the domain
name, your account will be credited accordingly. Please
allow one business day for the refund to be processed.

Please contact GoDaddy.com, Inc. if you need any further
assistance:
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/support.asp?prog_id=GoDaddy&isc=gdbb14

Sincerely,
GoDaddy.com, Inc."



WTF is this?? Does anyone have any idea? I though it was first come, first served!!

 

[apeks]

In relation to bet.asia I see that it is one premium domain mentioned as part of a long list of premium domains acquired by the CEO of Pool.com. See http://www.dotasia-complot.org/article51.html

 

[damagedgoods]

I find that so interesting. Pool would have been the company designated to run the auction for bet.com How could this possibly be legal?

Let me expand my question:

You mean to say that after 1 month of research into the .asia registration process and all my efforts to secure a premium domain, and after successfully pre-registering bet.asia (they kept a fee btw) with the condition that if one or more party pre-registered the same name then it would go to an auction which would be administered by pool.com, and that the CEO of pool.com Richard Schreier was able to secure bet.com for himself without inviting me to the auction?

If I understand this correctly then that's just ludicrous and reprehensible!

 

[rasman]

DamagedGoods... your data is wrong

As mentioned in other threads, the domain bet.asia was awarded in the Sunrise period (SR2B to be exact) based on a single application. It did not go to auction as a result. And it was NOT awarded to Pool.com. This is true for all the domains published on the "complot" site.

This can be confirmed using publicly available information:

www.whois.asia will provide the basis on which the domain was awarded and to whom, and;

the Master Auction Schedule at Pool.com will show the domain did not go to auction which means it was not given to Pool.com by the registry to be placed in auction. bet.asia was awarded totally independently of Pool.com

 

[MaguirePhD]

Who has pool.asia

Okay, then. Let me ask the question again and I will go slowly.

Who owns, has, is getting, knows the owner of pool.asia?

Who has it...plain and simple? Not a difficult question, if you know...let me know.

Because the only thing that comes up at who is: The domain, pool.asia, is a Governmental Reserved Name and is available for registration only by eligible applicants

Doc

 

[rasman]

We do!

Pool.com was awarded the domain Pool.asia in the Pioneer Program which occurred prior to the Sunrise and under public scrutiny. Paperwork to complete the transaction is in process.

 

[damagedgoods]

Then why was I able to register it February 20 th 2008, and why was it floating across the ticker at http://www.dotasia.org/ in march 2008 as going to auction? Why did their API allow my registrar to accept my $50 reg fee february 20 for bet.asia as available and hold on to it for nearly 3 months when SR2b ended january 31? I was refunded all but 20% of it. What is this all about?

Sunrise 2b: November 13, 2007 - January 31, 2008
Exact Registered Trademarks applied for before December 6, 2006

As mentioned in other threads, the domain bet.asia was awarded in the Sunrise period (SR2B to be exact) based on a single application. It did not go to auction as a result. And it was NOT awarded to Pool.com. This is true for all the domains published on the "complot" site.

This can be confirmed using publicly available information:

www.whois.asia will provide the basis on which the domain was awarded and to whom, and;

the Master Auction Schedule at Pool.com will show the domain did not go to auction which means it was not given to Pool.com by the registry to be placed in auction. bet.asia was awarded totally independently of Pool.com

 

[VisionEdger]

do you seriously think domains like golf.asia, shopping .asia, movies .asia etc were going to be simply left available for any schmuck to regg?? Come on man you are deluding yourselves! These are top generics and there is NO way in domain hell that such domains would be made available to joe average domainer.

Come on cant you see what this industry really is like!! INCESTUOUS AND SELF SERVING!!!! You are simply financing the big boys and wasting alot of your time!!!

 

[damagedgoods]

I knew that were true, but you would expect to see those names as 'reserved" and just move on with your day.

Oh, I missed the schmuck part when I first read this post. I will remind you, and as I have always stated' I was expecting to, and willing to go to auction. There is nothing schmuckish about that.

do you seriously think domains like golf.asia, shopping .asia, movies .asia etc were going to be simply left available for any schmuck to regg?? Come on man you are deluding yourselves! These are top generics and there is NO way in domain hell that such domains would be made available to joe average domainer.

Come on cant you see what this industry really is like!! INCESTUOUS AND SELF SERVING!!!! You are simply financing the big boys and wasting alot of your time!!!

 

[MaguirePhD]

Pool.com was awarded the domain Pool.asia in the Pioneer Program which occurred prior to the Sunrise and under public scrutiny. Paperwork to complete the transaction is in process.
*************************************************

Finally, I have the answer I wanted. pool.com has, or is scheduled to get, pool.asia.

All that was being stated so far was the process. At no time was it offered that pool.com had pool.asia

As far as the " public scrutiny " ,I see the exact opposite; a process shrouded in secrecy and non-disclosure.

That was the one answer I was looking for and I need nothing further. Now, I can get after the process and how that was awarded and that will be a matter for DotAsia and ICANN to answer. And I have nothg but time.

Doc

 

[rasman]

On the contrary...

MaguirePHD, in another thread in this forum you posted an email from me to you dated June 3 2008 where I had already answered your question about Pool.asia. The following text is snipped from your orginal posting:

“Pool.com was advised on January 15, 2008 that our Pioneer application had been accepted. The remaining contractual paperwork is still in process.”

To say that "you finally have an answer now" or "At no time was it offered that pool.com had pool.asia" only shows you have not read what you posted 3 days ago.

There has never been any shroud of secrecy or non-disclosure; all of the data you have been requesting is publicly available. All of the programs that have been offered by DotAsia have been well advertised through their site as well as through webinars to all Registrars. And there were no restrictions placed on anyone from participating in any of the programs provided they met the application criteria.

As you proceed to build your case with ICANN, I encourage you to become more familiar with the programs that were offered and all of the publicly available data.

 

[MaguirePhD]

I stand corrected. I reread Schrier's entire e-mail and did find that snippet in another section.

However, that changes nothing in my mnd about this entire dotasia, Drake deal.

All this does is make me want to know more about the awarding process.
If pool.com does have this legitimate claim in advance of all others, so be it.

But we will find out more about the process.

And in reading these threads from others, this process does cry out for more review.

And Rich, I don't need to review anything more about procedures. I need to have dotasia explain how someone could end up with so many of them to the exclusion of everyone else.

I may be initially ignored by alll these parties but I promise it will not be for long.

Doc

 

[hackersbox]

Read the rules on dotasia.org before you complain.