.tv Are You Developing TV Domains?

[GoKaizen]

I agree with the saying, "Don't buy a domain you are not prepared to develop!"

However, something I have noticed with Dot TV domains is that is seems most domainers buy them with no real intention of development. Are you developing or not developing your Dot TV domains?

 

[DnEbook]

what power, where? hows your in-room hotel network going?

......youtube appears to be a handy resource

 

[gr8trfoo]

......youtube appears to be a handy resource

youtube's great and you can build a real fanbase if you have the talent and resources to create something attractive. i hear they even pay a smidge. but is using a .tv to identify your original content on yt development or is it branding?

 

[NamespaceX]

what power, where? hows your in-room hotel network going?

Developed TV domains / video sites appeal to a more buyers, they don't have to start from scratch, and sell for sooo much more.

A growing number of developed channels were bought, or funded this year (Equity had a post about some on his blog), most were in the millions.

Beyond YouTube (channel partners); In dotTV dev land... Rides.tv is a killer development story, in the booming 'original web series' catagory...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAwKB_k8C2E"]RIDES.TV Transmedia Storytelling Platform[/ame]
Rides.TV, aka Fourth Wall Studios, finalized a $15 million round of financing from visionary Los Angeles-based investor Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, with access to a fund of up to $200 million to finance individual properties.

Likers.tv puts FaceBook Likes on screen. They will likely sell for millions. Its actually pretty simple 'tv crawl' technology. Its the application... thats what development is all about. Sell the the Application of the name, not just the name itself... as neither "Likes" or "Rides" would "fit the extension" in this corner of dotTV land.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CleLjxnl-Ug"]LIKERS.TV[/ame]

My hotel network is going good, Thanks for asking. I have more hotels wanting the channel than I can sell local ads for... so I'm seeking marketing and sales partners.

Bottomline, its not about lightning strike BIG funding or buy-outs. I make a day-to-day living from a developed network of TV sites, but only occasionally sell a name. That's where "the power" of dev is, for me.

 

[gr8trfoo]

i'll be in la soon, what hotels can i view your network at?

 

[NamespaceX]

Don't you live in L.A.?

PM sent.

i'll be in la soon, what hotels can i view your network at?

 

[gr8trfoo]

Don't you live in L.A.?

PM sent.

not any more. back in oregon. (missed the nasty weather too much)

 

[gr8trfoo]

Bottomline, its not about lightning strike BIG funding or buy-outs. I make a day-to-day living from a developed network of TV sites, but only occasionally sell a name. That's where "the power" of dev is, for me.

i'm curious how you manage to do this. most development i see produces practically no income. what are some of the sites in your developed network?

 

[NamespaceX]

See TVCLOUD.com

 

[gr8trfoo]

See TVCLOUD.com

how do you earn a day-to-day living on a service for which "Launch is projected for December 2012"?

what am i missing, eye?

 

[NamespaceX]

Announcing a new service on the PRESS page is not the only service listed on the site.

But you know that... as you questioned me about another service, the Hotel channel, a few days ago. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and sent you the links.

We played this game before, 2 years ago. I thought you might have grown-up a bit; my bad.

http://www.namepros.com/674243-comment-on-hotel-tv-2.html#post3920196

 

[gr8trfoo]

Announcing a new service on the PRESS page is not the only service listed on the site.

But you know that... as you questioned me about another service, the Hotel channel, a few days ago. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and sent you the links.

We played this game before, 2 years ago. I thought you might have grown-up a bit; my bad.

http://www.namepros.com/674243-comment-on-hotel-tv-2.html#post3920196

the whole thing doesnt make a lot of sense to me and if i were a hotel manager seeking to implement a custom local information channel i wouldnt feel very comfortable picking your service as i cant hardly tell what your service is. yet you declare that you have more business than you can sell ads for? frankly sir i doubt it. when i asked you what hotels are using your service you tell me to just go to any hotel and ask them if they have such a channel and if not to seek you out. ridiculous.

i'm also rather unclear on what benefit of doubt *you* need to be extending to *me*
i merely asked you about statements you made here. i have been skeptical of the claims you've made here for quite some time and you have done nothing to back them up. quite the opposite you've always been rather cagey about revealing any genuine details.

it seems to me anyone involved in the kind of business you describe would be considerable more forethcoming. myself if i were selling the service you describe i would be HAPPY to tell people about my business and would provied specific details. i wouldnt be cagey about even revealing the BRAND NAME or where my service is actually implemented so that anyone could take a look. i would be proud that people would go see it and use it. so if anyone is playing a game, sir, i submit that its entirely you.

 

[NamespaceX]

I gave you the hotel and channel info two years ago. Do you see the link in the thread? Add that link with the TV Cloud link and you have "links".

Sending me a pm that your "too lazy" to visit the old thread for the info so send you the info again -does not fly. Your laziness is not my problem. That's not being cagey. Thats respecting my time.

The fact that you 'don't get it' is also not my problem. My clients get it. Everybody I know gets it.

One last time. TV Cloud is a channel network. The hotel channel is 1 channel in the network.
Here is "the brand" HotelTvStation.com

You "used to" live in L.A., you say your visiting L.A.... why give me shit, for 2 years now, when you can go to the downtown L.A. Sheraton and turn on channel 38?

If you still doubt it, and as you claimed your a "potential advertiser"... why not pay to put a video on the channel? When you see it case closed. If you don't see it -you got a case.

Put your money where your mouth is at... or shut up. I wasted enough time on your BS.

 

[gr8trfoo]

why doesnt the hostility of your response surprise me? interesting that you have plenty of time to make hundreds of posts here but when challanged you are suddenly a busy executive who doesnt have the time for "my bs". that says a lot, sir.

for the record when i said i was "lazy" it was in the context of my having asked you if one of the hotels was the downtown sheraton. as i related to you i seemed to recall you having said before but i didnt want to pour thru years of archives to uncover be certain and i asked you to confirm. apparently i was correct, was i not, that the sheraton was one of your hotel partners (or so you say - whatever) but rather that simply confirming this fact at the time via pm you said nothing but you now attempt to publically berate me and insist that my laziness isnt your problem. well my mind isnt that lazy is it sir? i was right and you were merely being hostile, obstinant and obfuscatory, is that not the truth?

i never doubted the existence of your network, what i am skeptical of are the many claims you made of it, like its being "revolutionary" and the millions of user minutes thing, among others. if you're a legitimate publisher that sells advertising why dont you have a media kit or at least a basic rate card that explains exactly what the medium and the metrics are. how many viewers, what demographics, cost per thousand impressions, etc? i mean you've been doing this for at least 2 years now right?

you started this thread by saying you make a living with a network of developed tv sites and after i asked "how" you finally sent me a link to tvcloud, from where i fail to see any developed tv sites. does anybody else see them? i could've be missing them so i asked you in sincerity - giving you sir the genuine benefit of any doubt that i had - to elaborate, show me exactly what it is i'm missing. but again what i got instead is your continued stonewalling and hostility.

i am not in la, i did live there once a long time ago and i do occasionally visit. now when i visit next is the sheraton the only place i can view your hotel network or are there other venues? i find it very difficult to understand how you could have millions of user minutes racked up if thats the only place. there must be dozens or hundreds of others, right?

now tv stuff aside you make an interesting claim in some of your other websites
regarding your personal history. you say you are the person responsible for coining the phrase "no blood for oil"? i think perhaps you should get an award but before i nominate you i need to know that its true. i'm sure you understand. who at greenpeace can corroborate?

 

[NamespaceX]

i am not in la, i did live there once a long time ago and i do occasionally visit.

So its safe to say your NOT a "potential advertiser" for my L.A. Hotel channel, as you initially claimed in seeking "the numbers".

My "hostility" stems from the use of an avatar, with a "finster" handle, who resorts to deception and dishonorable insinuations to get information.

I do not hesitate to give information to forum members who identify themselves... this is who I am, this is what I do, here are my sites. Perhaps we can work together on this or that.

I put my cards on the table. If you have more questions... put your cards on the table. Fair enough? I mean, your at the point of publicly questioning me about an "interesting claim" from two decades ago... and you haven't even shown me the courtesy of telling me your name.

Also, I too am skeptical about the claims you make. In this thread, you say "i've made a few million in the domain game." and "i've already sunk well over a million in my collection".

I'm sure you understand, if I ask you to corroborate these far-out claims? Can you post your recites, listing the domains and how much you made, or 'sunk into' them?

 

[gr8trfoo]

I'm sure you understand, if I ask you to corroborate these far-out claims? Can you post your recites, listing the domains and how much you made, or 'sunk into' them?

ROFLMAO (and prob so are a dozen others at this point!)

you now demonstrate your ingnorance not just of the .tv space but domains in general. seriously if you dont know who the f i am you obviously dont know jack s***.

lets see, i founded and once ran a cooperative parking company with about 100 clients. i sponsored several of the big domain shows including TRAFFIC and DomainFest. the former owner of this forum is a personal friend of mine with whom i've bowled and played tournament poker with. dotcomgod the owner of the other big forum is also a friend as is rick shwartz, frank shilling, paul stahura (founder of eNom - i was in fact enom's first large wholesale customer , at least thats what paul said) and probably 200 other prominant domainers and industry leaders.

the parking company fizzled shortly after my wife died and i took to the bottle to numb the pain. and let me tell you something more sir, she was a beatiful vibrant woman in the prime of life and it was in large measure due to scam artists and con men that she lost her life so tragically soon. i count aholes like rupert murdoch in that catagory as he uses his media empire to decive hundreds of millions daily in order to further his own agenda of personal profit. damn him to hell and all like him large and small. and thats why i own .tv!! i started buying them in 2007 and intend to use them to create a media network devoted, seriously devoted to uncovering the great deceptions of our age and to bringing the truth to light.

as for my names if you care to know may i suggest you peruse the whois and figure it out.

seriously eye, all i really wanted the other day was some info on how you make the day to day living you claim. you brought it up afterall. i thought maybe (assuming you wernt bulls***ing) theres an angle for me and others and figured you might want to be willing to share at least a little info. but nooooooooooooooo! you couldnt do that.

i'm done with you now, sir. go back to whatever it was you think you were doing. i could care less.

 

[NamespaceX]

You really are full of yourself.

1). I don't park my domains. Never did, so I'm not in your circle jerk.

2). Don't follow you, or any of the folks you mentioned, and not every domainer buys into those auctions.

3). Don't have any domains with enom.

Bottomline, I have not lost my ass with any of those things, like you have. But at least you got bragging rights.

The fact that you assume everybody in the domain game knows who you are shows what a pompous ass your are.

And, of course there's an angle, and I am sharing with others in the biz, but you show no respect... because everybody just knows who you are. I didn't, so an introduction woulda been nice.

 

[Cate.tv]

Gentlemen - please stop - it's not becoming to either of you - thanks

 

[NamespaceX]

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Gentlemen - please stop - it's not becoming to either of you - thanks

I'm through.

 

[freedom30]

The fact that you assume everybody in the domain game knows who you are shows what a pompous a$$ your are...

...While I realized that he is a man of means, I did not know exactly who the "Finster" is. However, after reading the small bio he posted on this thread, I am able to at least now comprehend why he carries a cross and seems to be so abrasive to people (as I have personally experienced), but I wouldn't necessarily consider him "pompous" as he has left and is leaving a more positive mark on domaining than many here.

While he may be wrong on many of his assaults on domainers who may think differently than he does, the reality is I can harbor no malice or ill will toward the man

My props to Cate for the sincere suggestion she gave to both...

 

[JFS]

well...even if i don't know many of you ( i can't remember you all unfortunally ), it is to my compreension that finster is a nice guy, but when someone says that he/she thinks there are always haters or people that can't understand our point of view.

when you say what you think you are bound to gain enemies.