domain Appraise it please. jets-360.com

[globegenius]

What do you think? Worth anything? Is the new "kid" on the block getting any better? Should be no TM issue anyway I don't think. Thanks for any feedback from the pro's.

jets-360.com

 

[FanCube]

Hyphen ruins it so I don't think we are above a value in the $x range.

 

[globegenius]

Ok thanks. I did not realize that a hyphen would ruin it. Wonder why they allow that? So that means one of my others like jetsdomain.com or superjetsales.com would rank better than the first one? Glad I did not do that to the others I bought then. I have a few more similiar as well. No hyphen though.

 

[MicroGuy]

The hyphen brings this fast flyer down to earth with a loud thud. Low $x range. IMO.

Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that this is a FREE appraisal. This is a guess at quick flip resale value not an unrealistic end-user price. Often times my appraisals are rushed, too low, or too high. Sometimes my advice is totally wrong and occasionally downright dumb. If the post stamp is after 5:00pm EST, the chances are even greater that inaccuracies will occur due to blood alcohol levels.

 

[kemjika11]

Yea, i was thinking $x, maybe very low to mid $xx.Its still a .com, so thats the saving grace...

 

[FanCube]

Yea, i was thinking $x, maybe very low to mid $xx.Its still a .com, so thats the saving grace...

I am afraid this domain needs way more positive factors than just being a .com to become valuable

 

[globegenius]

lol Well I don't expect to become a "master" domainer overnight. Notice how I stayed away from TM issues though. I'm building websites at the moment for all my new domains. Friggin hostng panel is jacking around wth my frame forwards. Had that problem once before my hosts did a "flush". I might switch hosting companies if this keeps up. I'll also build google gadgets and modules for them. Then the search engines pick up the domains in about an hour in a google search. Beats waiting for the web
spiders to "crawl" the sites. Throw a few google affiliate banners on them. Should help abit I hope.

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Since I'm seperating a common word from a number I think it's not so bad. Just read this article. I don't think you guys will ever tell me if I come up with something decent or not. lol

Domain Names - To Hyphen or Not ?

A question in internet marketing often comes up regarding the use of hyphens in a domain name. Here are a few considerations when planning your sight.

When being interviewed for a local radio show, invariably the host will entertain questions from the listening audience. Most of the time, the host will plug your book, your product, your event or your cause. Many times a website or url is associated with this. Spouting off a long url will annoy hosts and producers everywhere not to mention scrambling audiences trying to record what you are saying. If you have a hyphenated url make sure you are clear as to the hyphen being included and don't make the url too long. Bill Clinton hyphen my life. Com (billclinton-mylife.com) is short enough that the hyphen can be used, can be emphasized with no traffic risk occurring.

Using the above example, it is also wise to reverse the wording before and after the hyphen. Listeners, readers and browsers think what they want in the order that they want. In the example above, <http://www.billclinton-mylife.com/> might be remembered by your reader as <http://www.mylife-billclinton.com/> . When purchasing domain names it is wise to purchase both just to assure your targeted traffic.

People make up urls when searching the internet. Stream of consciousness enters the browsers mind. In other words they they type what they are thinking at the time. If a browser is looking for The Davinci Code book they may make up their own url for searching purposes and type in <http://www.thedavinci-code.com/> . In this case they inserted a hyphen after what they think a main phrase is regarding the searched subject. While this type of traffic is low compared to the primary url without the hyphens, the hyphens assures the capture of intended traffic. With the cost of domain names today, buying variations of your domain is considered inexpensive "traffic insurance".

Url's without hyphens do look more professional. Hyphens are typically ok in certain contexts but when you start stringing them out with more than three words or three phrases it can get cumbersome. And we all know the attention span of an internet browser. Hyphenated domain names work with targeted key word campaigns and search engine spiders. If that is the purpose of the sight or domain then the hyphens are fine. If your marketing intention is to create a brand, a remembered domain name, top of mind awareness with the domain then hyphenless domains work best.

Many times it doesn't matter what a domain name is if you are promoting it with links, and offline promotion. If I have on the back of my business card, visit <http://www.billclinton-mylife.com/> then someone who is interested in Clinton's autobiography will literally read my card and type the name into a browser because I suggested it to them. This is with or without the hyphens. If I printed on the back of my card, visit <http://www.hyphen-hyphen-hyphen.com/> then if there was interested this suggestion would guide the browser. As these directed domains show up in offline marketing pieces and promotion, hyphens don't matter.

When it comes to underscores, many times the general public will interpret them as hyphens. Since hyphenated domain names are becoming more and more common that is the general notion of the average browser. Underscores also can get lost when a url or domain is underlined as many hyperlink commands do in word processor software programs.

The general rule of thumb is to not use hyphens between words if possible. A domain name with hyphens is harder to describe when said aloud as in our radio commercial. It is commonly accepted that a domain name with multiple words does not include hyphens. But there are exceptions to the rule. With some popular domain names not being available, sometimes a hyphenated url will be and will be used.

Another reason to use hyphenated domain names is when two words joined together like in a domain name could imply or even state a different meaning or unintentional phrases. The following is an example: <http://www.basketballshopping.com/> could be read as basketball shopping or basketballs hopping, two completely different thoughts and contexts. Avoid confusing phrases altogether or use hyphens to separate the words.

It all boils down to what your purpose is with your domain name, website and how you will market it to those interested. Interested parties like to be marketed to and told where to look; uninterested parties will ignore your domain with or without hyphens.

 

[MicroGuy]

There are rare cases where hyphenated domains are valuable. The keywords must be GREAT. For example credit-cards.com or las-vegas.com. Jets-360 does not work in any way, shape, or form.

You should grace delete and accept the fact that this domain is horrible. IMO.

Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that this is a FREE appraisal. This is a guess at quick flip resale value not an unrealistic end-user price. Often times my appraisals are rushed, too low, or too high. Sometimes my advice is totally wrong and occasionally downright dumb. If the post stamp is after 5:00pm EST, the chances are even greater that inaccuracies will occur due to blood alcohol levels.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Hotel-Reservations.com sold last week for 209,000 at sedo,I love the hyphen and there are decent sales,there is a thread here somewhere with reported sales,I would love to get even 150 for a name i spent 10 bucks on.If you are looking for a retirement fund,hyphens arent it,however descriptive domain names are in,and a hyphen wont kill it.
On that note your name has no value as was said earlier those words dont go together without a hyphen,so ya do the grace delete thing,maybe bang your head against the wall get back on track.

 

[globegenius]

Thanks for the replies. Well I will not bang my head against the wall quite yet. I'm still new at this and it's something different than selling software. Maybe my jetsdomain.com or superjetsales.com will be better. It doesn't take very long to throw a website and some gadgets together to "hang" out there. Now if only my hostng company could get their act together. I have most of the sites built and published on a sub domain. Just need the forwarding working to get some seo going. I have a few more domains yet to build with some of the same words. No hyphen in them. Thought I would let them sit on the net awhile before putting any up for sale. I guess the auction sites will tell the tale. I'm listing some domains with sedo, snap, foundnames and godaddy at the moment. Not really sure where the best place is. Seeing some of the prices domains sell for though keeps me interested. I'm semi retired/ retarded anyway so a few half decent sales would keep me in beer money for quite awhile. :lol:

 

[matrigaldo]

Hyphens don't always ruin the domains.
There are some domains that have been already ruined by theirselves. Like Jets-360.com .

Reg fee.

 

[globegenius]

Hello. Yes it's probally not much good. I'm new here but I already know some guys should not even bother rating. Microguy said epesicola was worth nothing and the guy sold it for over 120 bucks. Makes him look like more of a fool than I am. If you do not know what you are talking about when it comes to apprasials why even bother answering? It's probally better to pay an expert than to get a forum regular who has nothing better to do than go around giving people 0 reg numbers. But then these are free appraisals. Worth exactly what you paid for. Nothing. My advice if you feel you have a half decent domain, ask or pay an expert. Not some wanna be. My opinion only of course.

 

[enlytend]

One hyphen won't kill a .com as long as it connects 2 words of a strong keyphrase. OR if the two words are clearer to read or less ambiguous when separated. The former brings search engine benefits, the latter would benefit an end user with an unfortunate company name (the reason experts-exchange has a hyphen).

That's not the case with your domain so it diminishes the odds of you selling it for anything more than a low xx flip - IF that (that's my nice way of saying "reg fee" ). It has no value for search or type-in, so the buyer would need to be branding on the name ... and if I were branding on a name in that market I'd try to buy the domain WITHOUT the hyphen (which is for sale). Ask yourself: when was the last time you saw a company using a hyphenated domain for their name? I'm sure you can find some, but they're few and far between.

COULD someone come along and offer you more for it? Sure - there's a domain for everyone. But the farther your names are from common domaining "best practices" the less likely that is to happen. This type of domain is a lottery ticket, not an investment. Don't max out your credit card on lottery tickets.

Microguy said epesicola was worth nothing and the guy sold it for over 120 bucks.

As for that - the name's WORTH less than $0 despite the fact that he found some sucker to buy it. Blatant TM domains like that are a liability in your portfolio.

 

[globegenius]

Thanks enlytend. Your advice sounds good. Well a domain name is not a huge investment anyway. What about adding a number to your name? Does that really drop the value? I picked up another dozen domains yesterday.
Here are a few that have a number in them. Reg you think or could I do better? Thanks for the help.

4vows.com
4bra.com
1god4me.com

 

[Robin]

i dont think it worth much, it has hyphen and domain is not easy 2 remember.

 

[globegenius]

Thanks for the reply. I got the drift on the hyphen. I was wondering about adding numbers? Thought I'ld just ask here instead of starting a new thread.