Appraisal forum it is going bad

[Genialnames]

It is just my impression but I see the appraisal forum it is the place I visit less due the level of comments.
Sure I dont' put my name there, I feel mostly I would have them ruined.

It is a pity because it could be a distincitve service for a pros forum.

I see that most of the comments are of a certain type, mostly they are based on personal impressions, that it is not bad, just it is the wrong place.

I suggest to open a new forum where to test, and to stress, domain names.

IMHO

 

[JoshHendo]

Actually. I think the appraisal forum is just a place for 10 year olds to place their newly registered .be domain names 20 chars long. It is just a copy paste job for .be domain names. Reg Fre or $0. be domain names are just like tk now. worth nothing. Though most of the time with every other domain name that is posted, the replys are just honest opinions from the persons point of view. I can't say that the forum is been ruined, though it isn't like how it used to be.

-Josh

 

[NPQueen]

Sadly, there are a lot of great names that are being places in the appraisal forum and being ignored. There are members who have been approved as appraisers... sure there may be comments for others there too, but look for the "NP Bulb" when weighing the seriousness of the appraisals.

 

[user-7256]

Don't allow .be names to be appraised - tell them honestly in a pinned thread: .be names are worth $0.

Don't allow .tk names either.

 

[killaklown]

maybe make the appraisal forum different, where they submit domains with a comment/message and let the staff approve/disapprove it.

 

[redz]

maybe make the appraisal forum different, where they submit domains with a comment/message and let the staff approve/disapprove it.

that would be alot more work for staff or the np staff can hire more people like us

 

[Mark]

the replys are just honest opinions from the persons point of view. I can't say that the forum is been ruined, though it isn't like how it used to be.

-Josh

Correct - But this isn't really the best way to appraise to begin with ... Just throwing something out there from your gut is silly - People need to evaluate and actually look at everydomain/site

Does it have real PR ?

Is it Developed ? (Most will never know because they want their np$ too quick and refuse to open the domains)

Does the keyword / phrase have interest on either searches or PPC and advertising ? (Open Digitalpoints keyword tool and the Overture PPC bids tool and actually look)

Is the domain brandable or short and able to be pronounced ?​

There are tons of things they need to look at - But they don't .... They just want the np$ and to make a quick get away !

Don't allow .be names to be appraised - tell them honestly in a pinned thread: .be names are worth $0.

Don't allow .tk names either.

That isn't true though - There are Dev'd .be domains out there as old as 5 years old ..... You are saying they are worthless ? What if I now say .com's are a terrible investment - Should we stop allowing them in there just because I say so ?

I admit that I don't give appraisals any longer - but it's not really because of the domains in that section .... It's because of how I feel about Appraisals as a whole - And I'll keep that comment to myself ........

 

[CrazyTech]

The appraisal forum has its pros and cons.

I think it's important to remember that this forum is a free service run basically by the members who post there. You're going to have to separate the wheat from the chaff and there really isn't a way around it. If you took everyone who was "fully qualified" in everyone's definition then you'd have a small group of people that would probably never be able to keep up with amount of domains posted there. If you want a real domain appraisal, go pay for it like everyone else. The good thing about the appraisal forum is you will see the views from different angles and you're not paying for it. You cannot seriously expect someone to sit down and value every single aspect of a name for free. That's not to say that people don't do this, but they're certainly in a minority.

And about the developed aspect, it doesn't take me anymore then a few seconds to type something that let's people know the domain is developed. Personally speaking, I always assume the domain name is not developed unless it is stated otherwise.

There are some problems with the forum, I will agree there. It's obvious when someone posts that the domain is worth the same price as everyone posted before. Odds are that these individuals just posted to get the NP$ since they don't include some sense of a description of how they arrived at that figure. Perhaps you could simply require some sort of explanation in all reply posts in the forum. It's not going to wipe out the problem, but it makes the NP$ less appealing because it requires more work.

Finally, just playing the devil's advocate here, but aren't the people who are complaining about the appraisal methods doing the same as those who are complaining about the domains to be appraised (the free .be's and .tk's)?

It's just my personal opinion here, but as long as the user demonstrates that they have hit on at least a couple aspects such as pronounciation, keywords, PR, traffic, and brandability then I think they have provided a decent appraisal worthy of posting. Being brandable is a relative term in itself. IMHO just about any domain is brandable unless you're looking at a series of random letters and numbers.

 

[.X.]

Correct - But this isn't really the best way to appraise to begin with ... Just throwing something out there from your gut is silly - People need to evaluate and actually look at everydomain/site

Does it have real PR ?

Is it Developed ? (Most will never know because they want their np$ too quick and refuse to open the domains)

Does the keyword / phrase have interest on either searches or PPC and advertising ? (Open Digitalpoints keyword tool and the Overture PPC bids tool and actually look)

Is the domain brandable or short and able to be pronounced ?​

There are tons of things they need to look at - But they don't .... They just want the np$ and to make a quick get away !






That isn't true though - There are Dev'd .be domains out there as old as 5 years old ..... You are saying they are worthless ? What if I now say .com's are a terrible investment - Should we stop allowing them in there just because I say so ?

I admit that I don't give appraisals any longer - but it's not really because of the domains in that section .... It's because of how I feel about Appraisals as a whole - And I'll keep that comment to myself ........

I agree with everything Mark is saying,It takes research to valuate a domain name,Many do "none" ,They merely look at the name and decide rather they like it or not,That's hardly any kind of an valuation.The research to give a true honest valuation is not hard,And doesn't take a long time to do.However,Most can do thier own valuations of there names.The principal behind the "Appraisel" forum,Is for people who choose to submit thier name and get a valuation,Not a i don't like it,Or,The name is to long and ect.I think the forum is good thing if used properly,Unfortuantly a majority of the time,It is not.

 

[Rom]

I agree, I also hate when kids say that it's a reg fee since it's a .info which was free before...

 

[Genialnames]

I agree with the above opinions, and I would to remark that I was not complaining about the people who give the appraisals.
I simply have noted a trend for wich beside meningful appraisals (even if they are not complete, but at least they give an interesting idea of the value) there are a lot of comments that are simlply unuseful and even OT,that's why I get the idea to open a forum dedicated to that very common "sport" so that way also these comment would have an appropriate place and they will have a appreciable value.
While the appraisal forum would assume a more precise identity and an higher reputation.

I think that the appraisal comments should fit a basic form that include the most commont variables such:
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Assign a rate from 1 to five (5 best)
Extension ----
Lenght ----
Pronunciability ----
Ease of type ----
Ease of spell ----
Ease of remember --

Things like these but structured in the appropriate manner.

That must be filled, then the ap'raiser can add other personal comment if he like.

I think it is more easy for the appraisers and the comments will be more omogenous from the point of view of the quality , also those who submit their name for an appraisal will have more satisfaction.
Just an idea.

Sorry if I have expressed the idea in such bad english, please just put your attention on the idea instead of the grammar, thanks.

 

[Namedelivery.com]

I agree with much of what has been said here however appraisals are subjective and even if you pay $1000 for an appraisal based on certain parameters it will still be just an educated guess by the appraiser.

With that said when I put a domain name up for appraisal which is not often I disregard the dollar values people place on it and just read the comments. Maybe someone has thought of a different use for a name or has a good idea for monetization. This is helpful.

When I appraise, the $$ value I place on a name is typically very broad or even open ended, "high $xxx +++" Of course there are times where I dont appraise a domain at all as I dont want to hurt the domain owners feelings by saying "Reg. Feee or less".

I do take the time to do a google search, type in the domain to see if there is a site, check archive.org and maybe check ovt. I also try and appraise domains in industries I know a lot about so that my appraisals have at least a little merit.

To make the appraisal forum better we should all go do a few appraisals this week and try to raise the bar in terms of quality. Add some useful info. including potential uses. Maybe the rest of the members will catch on.

Just my opinions.

John