news All Chinese premium LLLL.net were registered.

[DotCN]

About one hour ago, all Chinese premium LLLL.net were registered.

No single Chinese premium LLLL.net is left...
I am checking it again.

 

[campout]

@equity78 That HXXH jumped out at me as the best bargain on that list, too. ABBA should reach $300 anyway IMHO. Maybe $500. Who knows. But $112 feels undervalued now in the context of this market.

 

[Perfect Pint]

@krx if you find someone who is panicking to sell 1K - 10K "chips" at a good price please send them my direction.
@Nat for what its worth I agree with your assessment of HXXH

 

[BrandChimp]

@krx if you find someone who is panicking to sell 1K - 10K "chips" at a good price please send them my direction.
@Nat for what its worth I agree with your assessment of HXXH

HXXH kick ass name!

 

[djum]

i think prices will start to go down a bit next week

I will believe it when I see it.
Like Nat said number of names caught going to the Auction is going up!

Dmcf.net
Dygw.net
Fsst.net
Fsxy.net
Gcnr.net
Hlcb.net
Jbzm.net
Jqjn.net
Jxfl.net
Jyqp.net
Kfcx.net
Mdtf.net
Mzjx.net
Qpwl.net
Qtfs.net
Slwz.net
Tbqp.net
Xlwz.net
Xxtm.net
Yhxc.net
Yqjd.net
Zffh.net
Zhhx.net
Zpgw.net

24 out of 24.

Makes me think that competition is only growing, and prices on this auctions are always jacked up.

the buying is starting to spread out LLLL.com LLL.co LLLL.top and so on..

So far today for 9 hours in China total money spent on LLLL.net = 130000 yuan.
Chinese LLLL.com = 20000, regular LLLL.com = 20000.

LLL.co, LLLL.top, .wang not even tracking. They might sell, but numbers are very obscure. They do track .cc and for the same 9 hours today only 1 LLLL.cc sold for 80 yuan.

I don't see strong competition from above mentioned zones, tbh,
LLLL.net remains hot area of spending at the moment, it just got there and taken the size of the niche 160000 - 30000 domains bought by one company, and the price $80-250, affordable for most resellers, it may stay in top 3 spending for a while.

 

[DotCN]

a modern day antique
i am starting to buy name with no thought to a end user just names to trade with a investment because their rare..

"A modern day antique", which might be a very important reason that so many Chinese do NOT care about selling to the end users now. You might have known that many Chinese domainer have began to buy out 6N.com and even 7N, 8N.com. They do not expect to sell these number domain names to the end users. They just want to keep it, and might want to sell part of them for a much higher price in a few months and in a few years.

 

[djum]

Oh, boy, if 7-8n will become collective, than 4L.net will fly through the roof

 

[DotCN]

...... but I doubt anyone holding that many domains would be foolish enough to do this, since it would depreciate their own sales.
......

As I know, several rich Chinese domainers who have so many domain names are not fool, actually they are really very very clever.
Sometimes, I can hardly follow them ...

 

[DomainVP]

"A modern day antique", which might be a very important reason that so many Chinese do NOT care about selling to the end users now. You might have known that many Chinese domainer have began to buy out 6N.com and even 7N, 8N.com. They do not expect to sell these number domain names to the end users. They just want to keep it, and might want to sell part of them for a much higher price in a few months and in a few years.

I think this statement is the most true of pattern domains, and the most dangerous aspect of it.

The good news is that I don't think the value is going to drop any time soon, rather it will increase quite a bit.

However, there will come a time when this activity folds in on itself with a mass sell off. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - this is mirroring BitCoin activity. Sure there are differences, but there are more similarities than differences.

There have been many studies done about this behavior, and it's actually quite comical to watch because the research mirrors exactly what is going on right now. I wish I had the video, but a bunch of students were given a fictitious commodity and they were told to make as much money as possible.

Little by little, their commodity sold for more and more - and then more. Then at some point of max saturation someone decides to sell, others follow, then everyone follows - then the problem is inventory vs price. People start to short sell each other, and then the price falls drastically.

Let's work the logic for a second. So names without A,E,I,O,U,V are worth more. But why.... because they match potential PinYin acronyms? That's great, except for the fact that buyers do not expect to sell these number domain names to the end users. So what does it matter what letters are in the domain if they don't expect to sell to end users or have an actual use.

Therein lies the problem with the whole valuation of these names it's all based on a single narrative that is just being repeated by speculation.

I think everyone buying now will be fine, but you have to know when to sell - because when everyone else starts unloading for profits the price will drop sharply.

It could happen at any point.

A lot of people yammer about the 'finite' aspect of domains without realizing that there are/were also a finite number of bitcoins. At one point they were up to $900 USD per coin, and then free fell down to $175 and then back to $250 (+-20) where it stabilized.

It followed the same pattern.

4L.coms are awesome - any short domain is awesome - but the stable value will always be in end user use.

There will be a bag man in all of this. Don't be the bag man.

 

[DotCN]

I think this statement is the most true of pattern domains, and the most dangerous aspect of it.

The good news is that I don't think the value is going to drop any time soon, rather it will increase quite a bit.

However, there will come a time when this activity folds in on itself with a mass sell off. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - this is mirroring BitCoin activity. Sure there are differences, but there are more similarities than differences.

There have been many studies done about this behavior, and it's actually quite comical to watch because the research mirrors exactly what is going on right now. I wish I had the video, but a bunch of students were given a fictitious commodity and they were told to make as much money as possible.

Little by little, their commodity sold for more and more - and then more. Then at some point of max saturation someone decides to sell, others follow, then everyone follows - then the problem is inventory vs price. People start to short sell each other, and then the price falls drastically.

Let's work the logic for a second. So names without A,E,I,O,U,V are worth more. But why.... because they match potential PinYin acronyms? That's great, except for the fact that buyers do not expect to sell these number domain names to the end users. So what does it matter what letters are in the domain if they don't expect to sell to end users or have an actual use.

Therein lies the problem with the whole valuation of these names it's all based on a single narrative that is just being repeated by speculation.

I think everyone buying now will be fine, but you have to know when to sell - because when everyone else starts unloading for profits the price will drop sharply.

It could happen at any point.

A lot of people yammer about the 'finite' aspect of domains without realizing that there are/were also a finite number of bitcoins. At one point they were up to $900 USD per coin, and then free fell down to $175 and then back to $250 (+-20) where it stabilized.

It followed the same pattern.

4L.coms are awesome - any short domain is awesome - but the stable value will always be in end user use.

There will be a bag man in all of this. Don't be the bag man.

I made enough research and knew that Chinese 4L.net have enough end users to support it, so I registered a lot of them and it really worths something now. Actually I sold one to an end-user for $2,000USD not long ago, and I often received offers from the end users.

I don't think 6N, 7N or 8N number domain names have enough end users' support, so I never registered any kind of numeric domain names. I agree with you that it is dangerous. But also there do have many Chinese domainers like these number domain names. It's very very hard to forcast the future of these number domain names.

 

[GravityEleven]

6-8N pattern domains (especially containing 8s) are rising way faster in value (relative to their past prices) than any LLLL.com/.net/etc.. just watch and compare the price floors.. also expired 6-8N domains are crazily auctioned off since past 2-3 weeks.. they started later than the LLLLs but are shooting up a lot stronger.. just do your research and know which patterns to buy.. pure length/shortness is irrelevant here once it goes beyond 4-5N...

ps: plus the pattern numbers are more evenly spread out between lots of different chinese investors as opposed to the LLLL's which are often grabbed in large amounts by fewer big chinese investors.. do your own research via Whoisology if you don't believe it..

 

[pablohc86]

Hxxh.net renewed by the owner.
I was the buyer so the sale not happen

 

[mirul]

i think prices will start to go down a bit next week

Are you sure?

 

[DotCN]

6-8N pattern domains (especially containing 8s) are rising way faster in value (relative to their past prices) than any LLLL.com/.net/etc.. just watch and compare the price floors.. also expired 6-8N domains are crazily auctioned off since past 2-3 weeks.. they started later than the LLLLs but are shooting up a lot stronger.. just do your research and know which patterns to buy.. pure length/shortness is irrelevant here once it goes beyond 4-5N...

ps: plus the pattern numbers are more evenly spread out between lots of different chinese investors as opposed to the LLLL's which are often grabbed in large amounts by fewer big chinese investors.. do your own research via Whoisology if you don't believe it..

Yes, it's true. So I said many Chinese domainers like these numeric domain names, but it's the same that large amounts owned by a few big investors.

 

[djum]

6-8N pattern domains (especially containing 8s) are rising way faster in value (relative to their past prices) than any LLLL.com/.net/etc.. just watch and compare the price floors.. also expired 6-8N domains are crazily auctioned off since past 2-3 weeks.. they started later than the LLLLs but are shooting up a lot stronger.. just do your research and know which patterns to buy.. pure length/shortness is irrelevant here once it goes beyond 4-5N...

ps: plus the pattern numbers are more evenly spread out between lots of different chinese investors as opposed to the LLLL's which are often grabbed in large amounts by fewer big chinese investors.. do your own research via Whoisology if you don't believe it..

They do rise in price, it's true, but because of the pure speculation.
And if market will go south this exact domains will be the ones to go down the hill first too.
Since like @DotCN said: 6N, 7N or 8N number domain names have enough end users' support

and LLLL.net have more end-users in China then LLLL.com.
Higher risk brings higher reward, it's depend how much risk can (or want) you handle.

Personally I'm not against numbers, but prefer to protect my investments from downside first by investing in stable niches like LLLL first, then make few risky bets with small part of portfolio

The fact that one company owns more 30000 LLLL.nets is adding stability to the market and limits supply. As long as they don't drop them next summer we should be fine. And someone shared here that investment horizon for them was 5 years.

 

[krx]

LLLL.net remains hot area of spending at the moment, it just got there and taken the size of the niche 160000 - 30000 domains bought by one company, and the price $80-250, affordable for most resellers, it may stay in top 3 spending for a while.

Is it just Chinese LLLL.net, or are they buying all LLLL.net now?

 

[metwebber]

I made enough research and knew that Chinese 4L.net have enough end users to support it, so I registered a lot of them and it really worths something now. Actually I sold one to an end-user for $2,000USD not long ago, and I often received offers from the end users.

I don't think 6N, 7N or 8N number domain names have enough end users' support, so I never registered any kind of numeric domain names. I agree with you that it is dangerous. But also there do have many Chinese domainers like these number domain names. It's very very hard to forcast the future of these number domain names.

If it is not personal, I want to ask you where you sold this domain and where came these offers from.
I think to sell these domains to just investors but if we can reach the end-users, everything will be different Thanks in advance.

 

[pablohc86]

Some daily sales:

NJ:
YTBD.NET 81$
JXTW.NET 74$
GDTH.NET 89$

GODADDY: (+ REG FEE)

RLSG.NET at least 70$, i've not seen the ending price during the last 10 mins.
GCSY.NET 57$
BXDY.NET 70$

 

[Genius327]

All domains at DropCatch went to auction.

What's next?

 

[campout]

All domains at DropCatch went to auction.

What's next?

At DropCatch, I think most names will stay at $59 or in the $60s for a couple weeks. Then it will start to move on up again and $70 will become the visible base over there let's say by November 10. (I am talking about a BASE here, similar to LLLLSales' 5th percentile number.)

 

[DotCN]

If it is not personal, I want to ask you where you sold this domain and where came these offers from.
I think to sell these domains to just investors but if we can reach the end-users, everything will be different Thanks in advance.

From the domain names' selling page with my contacts. They visit the domain name's webpage and found that the domain name(website) is for sale and contact me. This is the only way that I have sold so many domain names to the end users.