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About the Big 25% dot-com increase at Uniregistry

Located in Domain Registrar Reviews started by namemarket, Nov 4, 2018.

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  1. namemarket

    namemarket Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I would need to join Uniregistry new Elite Membership (a higher level than $18-mo Pro) Domain Perks at an ongoing and high $22-month (to keep my old price level which had no monthly fees) to avoid Uni's 25% dot-com increase starting Nov 1. But why pay $22 mo when there will be some months with no renewals or registrations so the $22 is wasted. It's also wasted money unless you have a lot of active domains at Uni.

    Even if paying $22-mo would still be faced with high 28% future increases via Verisign because Uni domain perks appears to offer no protection from VZ increases. I can get a lower overall cost at Godaddy and benefit from major GD advantages like auctions, high traffic and great name recognition with end-users and the public.
     
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  2. MasterOfMyDomains

    MasterOfMyDomains Top Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Funny, below your post is a uniregistry sponsored banner :xf.grin:
    Seriously, paying money to get lower fee's is too funny
    Transfer out or pay the deductible
     
  3. DomainBoxio

    DomainBoxio domainbox.io Gold Account VIP

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    They know when they are being discussed :xf.smile:
     
  4. anantj

    anantj Active Member VIP

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    Switch to one of the at-cost registrars like Namesilo. I really don't get why someone would stick with Uniregistry. What real advantage do they give over a Namesilo, Dynadot etc.?
     
  5. creataweb

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    To register a .com right now, at uniregistry is $10.88 ... don't understand where you came with this prices.
     
  7. MapleDots

    MapleDots Domain Properties 2010 - 2018 VIP

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    No different from GoDaddy, I pay for their discount club. I don't like it but I pay it. I just wasted too much time at umpteen registrar's and GoDaddy was the one where everyone had an account. I picked it because my time was worth money.

    Uniregistry has always intrigued me but seriously I have some high value domains and I don't like the idea of them in a foreign land outside of North American law.

    Lastly uniregistry does not appear stable to me. They are always changing the prices and never for the better.
     
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  8. alcy

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    its baiscally the final nail in uniregistry coffin

    its not impossible they'll go back on this setup after seeing countless transferouts... but.. it may be too late by then.

    cheers
     
  9. namemarket

    namemarket Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    If you are asking me, I was paying $8.67 which is 25% less until Oct 31 and had that $8.67 price locked in for a very long time until now. I can only keep that level and not pay $10.88 if I agree to pay monthly on a 1-year term for the new Uni Elite Membership at $22-mo.
     
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  10. BrandableDomain

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    The paramount reason I have about 1,750 domains at Uniregistry (most of my inventory) is simple.

    The UniregistryMarket may be the best market in the world that is publicly accessible.

    Thanks to legendary investor Frank Schilling who owns the company, you can take advantage of the same platform and brokers he uses.

    Personally, I once added up my sales there over four consecutive quarters and the total came to a whisper over $100,000 - much better than sales in the past.

    If you listen to the DomainNameWire podcast with Jeff Gabriel, you will hear that he projects Uni sales to reach $60M this year, close to 50 per cent higher than last year:

    “Last year [2017] was a great year for us in sales in general. It was our biggest or largest year in sales volume that we’ve ever had but then looking at it now in 2018 we’re going to far surpass that so I was quite happy with the accomplishments we made in 2017… we finished a little bit above $40M in sales and then this year we’re tracking to break $60M in sales in 2018.”

    https://domainnamewire.com/2018/10/01/domain-sales-in-2018-jeff-gabriel-dnw-podcast-204/

    In other words UniregistryMarket is tracking at a rate of about $5,000,000 in sales per month.

    Now if you read Raymond Hackney’s analysis of available Namebio data where he wisely added up some recent monthly (reported) sales, you can see that Uniregistry by itself is projecting (unreported) sales figures that are slightly higher that all other marketplaces combined that are reported.

    https://tldinvestors.com/2018/11/us...-sales-august-beat-september-and-october.html

    For example, Namebio reported sales for October totalling only $4,363,801 from all sources (which excludes Uniregistry which I don’t think has reported their sales since Q1.)

    To note, the Uniregistry data likely includes NDAs while the Namebio data would exclude them, which would alter the comparative numbers a little.

    Uniregistry is also an excellent registrar with terrific support so I’m really not concerned at all about looking for the cheapest prices. What matters to me is having my inventory at the registrar with the best market, expert brokers and integrated access to instant transfers - which is the ultimate in customer service.
     
  11. namemarket

    namemarket Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I agree Uniregistry has an excellent platform and overall service much better vs Godaddy's cumbersome and less user friendly platform (however GD has other nice benefits). Regarding Uni Instant Transfers I am sure it works well and benefits high volume sellers but some buyers are nervous on who handles the funds and prefer to use escrow.com
     
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  12. BrandableDomain

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    That’s an important point you raised about the level of trust buyer’s would like to have if using an unfamiliar website. After all they are potentially investing thousands of dollars.

    But fortunately UniregistryMarket actually does offer Escrow.com as an option.

    In my experience, which is not statistically significant, only a very small proportion of people have ever requested it. But I imagine Escrow would be used more often for high value sales like 50K or whatever.

    I'm in fact half way through my first ever Escrow.com payment plan which was arranged by Uniregistry brokers. (The buyer paid 40 per cent deposit, and is now making six 10 per cent payments.) It’s working well and is an interesting experience, you actually also sign up with Docusign so all parties provide digital signatures.
     
  13. xynames

    xynames XYNames.com PRO VIP

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    Do you use Uniregistry’s landing pages, i.e. are your domains parked at Uniregistry? If so, your sales have absolutely nothing to do with Uniregistry marketplace and you’d do just as well if you had your own landing pages.


    I use my own landing pages and have all my domains (about 1500) listed in the databases at Afternic, Sedo, DomainAgents, Uniregistry and Undeveloped. From these I sell a lot at all EXCEPT at Uniregistry and Undeveloped.

    Uniregistry marketplace is basically dead. So is Undeveloped’s marketplace. Any sales at these two are due to people simply landing on your domain URL and only if you are using their landing pages and parking your domains with them.

    Take a look also at
    https://www.namepros.com/threads/uniregistry-com-market-anybody-sold-buying.940766/
     
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  14. BrandableDomain

    BrandableDomain Established Member

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    Yes, I use Uniregistry landing pages, and because most of my inventory is also registered there, the domains qualify for instant transfer. I believe this is a positive for buyers because it is mentioned as a feature on the landers like this:

    “Inquire now and EXAMPLE dot com can be yours today…”

    “Instant Ownership Transfer”

    “You're in luck! This domain is eligible to be delivered to your account immediately after purchase.”


    Surely this is attactive to buyers, knowing they are buying via an accredited ICANN registrar, can pay by card and have the domain in their account in possibly minutes.

    My personal belief is that by using Uniregistry I make far more sales and for higher prices. (Their brokers are more skilled than me etc etc.)

    Being an accredited registrar, their landers imply far more trust than my own could, which surely must help sales. Their brokers are available at least 16 hours a day and speak many languages.

    Also, instant transfers save me heaps of time. Because my bank account is linked, I literally often don’t have to do a single thing - the sale closes, Uni completes the transfer, manages the payment and distributes my payment. In summary, I believe it’s all very well worth the moderate commission.

    (FYI all my domains are BIN priced and most are brandables.)

    My opinion is the UniregistryMarket is the most alive publicly accessible market in the world, based on their Q1 sales report etc:

    http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/domainsales/2018/20180502.htm

    The list is so huge Ron Jackson had to add most in a supplementary PDF!

    Thanks for describing your experiences with other market databases and also for the NamePros article link. All I can say is, unlike some commenters there, I’m slowly adding inventory to Uniregistry because of my proven great results (though slower in the last six months).
     
  15. xynames

    xynames XYNames.com PRO VIP

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    You wrote a lot but it boils down to: your sales have absolutely nothing to do with Uniregistry marketplace and you’d do just as well as far as offers and traffic if you had your own landing pages.

    Your opinion is wrong. Stop using Uniregistry landing pages and your Uniregistry sales will drop to zero.
     
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  16. Domains - Wanted

    Domains - Wanted Active Member VIP

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    I think you should re-read @BrandableDomain's posts more carefully. He attributes his very satisfsctory sales results mainly to great negotiating prowess of Uniregistry's brokers. He likes the results and the fact he has no hassle with buyers, everything on automatic. And he backs this up with interesting figures about Uniregistry's overall results. Food for thought, if nothing else, IMHO :xf.smile:

    This is not to say that I disagree with you on the subject of own landing pages, which are the best way to go! (y)

    Disclaimer: personally, I have a very different outlook on Uniregistry's brokers. But I can't help but enjoy well grounded contrarian advice / different perspective :sneaky:
     
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  17. xynames

    xynames XYNames.com PRO VIP

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    It’s obvious what his opinion is

    <<My opinion is the UniregistryMarket is the most alive publicly accessible market in the world>>

    and he’s wrong. His offers have nothing to do with the marketplace, everything to do with the domain name URL and people landing directly on his landing pages and in fact Afternic’s marketplace blows away the traffic at Uniregistry.

    Once people land on his domains - sure yes he may attribute the closed sale to negotiation skill which he appears to state that he lacks and he believes that Uniregistry’s brokers have, but that’s besides the fact that he attributes the offers and traffic to the marketplace itself. He is wrong about that plain and simple.

    I’m not saying that he is doing a bad thing by using Uniregistry landing pages just saying that he might as well be aware of why the offers are coming in.
     
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  18. dotbay

    dotbay BrandChimp.com VIP

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    Better pay for Godaddy DDC and use the afternic sales integration... Uni lost me as a customer. lol
     
  19. namemarket

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    Sorry, I disagree, if anything instant transfers are more negative vs positive except for high volume power sellers like Frank S. I've had several buyers over a few years who acted nervous about sending the money to Uni saying things like they never heard of them and felt uncomfortable. The buyers do not seem to hesitate sending funds to Godaddy or Escrow.com, likely due to name recognition.

    There was a deal I recall where UNis broker suggested SSI and buyer got cold feet and backed out, likely caused by ssi and thinking about if too long as buyer was real nervous about buying and I think Uniregistry SII was a final negative in his mind. BTW, with some buyers I have known it's the opposite of being in a rush to close and in fact the preference is sometimes to go slow due to nervousness.

    I also disagree about the brokers skill is the reason for success. It is correct most Uni brokers are very good and do a fine job however that's not the reason for sales, the names sell because of an end-user wanting it or due to simple luck, so the broker makes little if any difference, imo.
     
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  20. BrandableDomain

    BrandableDomain Established Member

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    Still only November 18.

    Already sold two domains on UniregistryMarket this month for a total of $9,500.

    Both were instant transfer, with Buy It Now. Commission in both cases only 10 per cent. Compare that to Afternic's 20 per cent.

    (To note, in many cases buyers still want to negotiate - especially for higher value domains - even when you list at BIN. Then, you can set up your account for a broker to be assigned automatically. Then, your commission rises to 15 per cent.)

    If buyers are worried about SSI, they are free to request using Escrow.com which is what happens to me in a small minority of cases. I never knowingly lost a sale about SSI, mostly just about pricing.
     

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