8Chan & Epik

[MapleDots]

Controversial web forum 8chan has moved its domain name to a new registrar after it was linked to at least one of the two mass shootings that occurred in the US over the weekend.

According to Whois records, it’s just jumped to racist-friendly Epik, having been registered at Tucows since 2003.

The switch appears to have happened in the last few hours. At time of writing, you’re going to get different results depending which Whois server you ping.

Some servers continue to report Tucows as the registrar of record, perhaps using cached data, but Epik’s result looks like this:

http://domainincite.com/24593-after-more-racist-shootings-take-one-guess-which-registrar-8chan-just-switched-to?

 

[offthehandle]

why can't you express your concerns in an intelligent, coherent, manner that will make others of different POV's listen to you?

Trump used the word "invasion". Is that offensive? Sure lot's of people get offended. So the media jumps on it and fans the flames. And a few nutjobs, go apeshit and kill people. So blame the messenger? Is that the idea? I have little respect for some of the tweets our President puts out, as they are unnecessary, they lack tact, stretch the truth, etc. But this is a societal problem with marginal people and hyper sensitive politically correct nonsense everywhere. Berkeley leading the lunatic charge changing "Manhole cover" to "Maintenance whatever"... where does the lunacy end and wasted tax dollars? Can you imagine how many man-hours or should I say "Person Hours to be PC" will be wasted in paper shuffling, editing, publishing, cataloging, reviewing, re-reviewing, signature stamps, etc. in changing every document in the local government ?

What about all people focusing on being productive citizens inventing things, selling things, creating value for others around the world with all the freedoms one enjoys? I use web services created all over the world, but smart people who invented them, it's global. They are the silent ones, not going around mixing up in this sort of nonsense of being politically correct, but focusing on customer service, product development and producing income.

 

[kemjika11]

Time for colonialism has past,

False. Colonialism exists today, especially economic. US and CHina are the current colonizers. Dont you see US can starve a country just by placing USD sanctions on them? why such a black and white approach to things? sorry but you should just say less on this thread pls because you have a VERY different, generalized, un-contextualized way of seeing this sensitive issue.

 

[Recons.Com]

It is like watching a Disney story unfold with all the monstrosities gathering under the wings of the Monster

 

[Rob Monster]

Some balanced narrative from Chicago Tribune here:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/opin...0190806-rmi6moex45ehxgf35477m6b55e-story.html

Pushing message boards to abdicate the public web and instead use highly encrypted dark web is not the solution.

I tend to be one who opts against throwing out the baby with the bathwater, but as with Gab, would expect site owners to run a tight ship and work with law enforcement.

8CH, currently offline by the site owner's choice, is more cringeworthy because it allows more "edge lord" content to exist on it.

So, the question is whether such a site should be aborted, as some would have it, or whether the public requires it to "grow up".

 

[frank-germany]

It is not up to me or you to silence people, it is the society at large that determines how much weight is given to the voice of certain individuals and groups when they exercise their right of free speech to promote hate.

This is what I said in another thread here a while back:

“Lets deplore hateful actions (or even hateful speech) that is meant to suppress, torture, and kill others, but lets do it at all levels and not close our eyes to what is being done by people themselves collectively or through their representatives who act on their behalf in the society. Did you vote to take people’s healthcare away or to leave them out on the streets to die by denying them adequate food and shelter, are you part of a group that wants to suppress and humiliate others in to extinction, have you promoted the systematic killing of unborn children through unnecessary abortions, have you allowed people’s lives to be derailed by abuse, delinquency, or drugs while you lived a good life yourself and even benefited from their pain and misery, then don't be surprised when AI holds you responsible for committing crimes against humanity some time soon.

Lets put an end to Hate, but lets end all Hate at all levels.”

make the task big and bigger
so it's impossible to solve

big tasks can be solved when cutting into small pieces

start with hate speech

 

[oldtimer]

make the task big and bigger
so it's impossible to solve

big tasks can be solved when cutting into small pieces

start with hate speech

Well free speech doesn’t mean that people are only free to say what pleases you, in a free society you have to tolerate speech that you don’t like or agree with as long as that speech is not limited by law for certain circumstances.

Unfortunately “hate” starts at the top, policies of hate have dominated our World and are much more harmful to us than what one single person might express in the form of hate speech. There is much hate at the top which has been brewing for a long time and has been spreading amongst us in a big part by our political, religious, and racial differences and agendas, and in some cases due to our economical interests.

You cannot end all hate as some of it is part of human nature, but if we can create an atmosphere of understanding and tolerance in the World based on logic and compassion and certain universal values, then Hate won’t be able to dominate our lives the way it has now. IMo

 

[frank-germany]

here is a link to an article that talks about punishment for HATE SPEECH in Germany


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/hasskommentare-facebook-97-rechtskraeftige-verurteilungen,RYTFzms


in Germany it's against the law
to heat up the discussion
in order to create a violent mood
against whomsoever




so when you talk about "law full" speach
which law??

the internet is international
law is different in different countries


and yes
there exist other countries outside the USA
some are even educated and civilized

 

[oldtimer]

in Germany it's against the law
to heat up the discussion
in order to create a violent mood
against whomsoever




so when you talk about "law full" speach
which law??

the internet is international
law is different in different countries


and yes
there exist other countries outside the USA
some are even educated and civilized

Obviously you have to abide by the laws of where you are, but it seems that there is a growing International consensus to limit speech that is used for stocking violence and encouraging people to do harm to others, although we have to be careful that this is not expanded to limiting legitimate descending, opposing, or critical speech. IMO

 

[TestCase]

Obviously you have to abide by the laws of where you are, but it seems that there is a growing International consensus to limit speech that is used for stocking violence and encouraging people to do harm to others, although we have to be careful that this is not expanded to limiting legitimate descending, opposing, or critical speech. IMO

You are absolutely right! This is an extremelyly slippery slope as has been demonstrated by leaders of countries around the world, past and present. They outlaw the speech of those critical of their leadership as "dangerous" on any number of pretexts. Yet when they are/were trying to get in to power, they are/were all for fomenting rhetoric that leads to discord, disorder and hate.

Can someone point to a definitive, black-and-white definition of what constitutes acceptable safe speech and what constitutes "dangerous" speech? (No, I'm not expecting anyone to try to define either as both will always be impossible to fully define.)

 

[oldtimer]

You are absolutely right! This is an extremelyly slippery slope as has been demonstrated by leaders of countries around the world, past and present. They outlaw the speech of those critical of their leadership as "dangerous" on any number of pretexts. Yet when they are/were trying to get in to power, they are/were all for fomenting rhetoric that leads to discord, disorder and hate.

Can someone point to a definitive, black-and-white definition of what constitutes acceptable safe speech and what constitutes "dangerous" speech? (No, I'm not expecting anyone to try to define either as both will always be impossible to fully define.)

Ideally everyone should be free to speak their mind and express themselves as long as they are not stoking violence and encouraging people to harm others. Although in reality things always end up in violence because apparently things are settled at the top in many different areas around the World by stoking violence and threating others in the form of creating conflict and War. And as long as things are settled at the top through violence (just watch the news and it seems its all about conflict and War in one corner of the World or another) then smaller groups are not going to restrain their speech when it comes to advancing or protecting their interests and agendas. So it seems that the real problem is when free speech in the form of diplomacy deteriorates into violence in the form of conflict and War at the top and then it trickles down to the rest of the people through their political, religious, and racial affiliations and loyalties. I guess it could be called Trickle Down Hate © .

IMO

 

[frank-germany]

...(just watch the news and it seems its all about conflict and War in one corner of the World or another)..

what else should they talk about?

it's their daily bread

there is more peace on earth than violence
just that's not the focus of the media and politics