DAN.COM Domain Marketplace (Official Thread)

[DAN.COM]

DAN.COM (formerly known as Undeveloped.com) is on a path to be become the biggest domain marketplace in the world. We use state of the art technology to solve everyday problems buyers and sellers in the domain industry face. At DAN.COM we focus on automating most processes required to buy & sell domains to increase a more efficient and active secondary market for domains.

What sets us apart is our strong focus on product development and customer satisfaction. We leave nothing to chance and every single feature and element we introduce is professionally and carefully designed and built.

DAN.COM is ranked in the top 5 best-rated marketplaces in the world (According to the biggest review platform Trustpilot) and in the domain industry, we're the domain marketplace with the highest rating with an average of 9,4 out of 10 points.

At DAN.COM you will get the highest value for the lowest commission around. Due to our domain transfer automation, we can offer significantly faster handling of domain transactions and payouts (usually within 24 hours) at the lowest fee charged by any domain marketplace.

We've been the first on many fronts and proudly will continue to keep innovating. We were the first to offer optimized for sale pages since 2013, the first to provide payment plans in the form of lease to own and rentals and also the first and only domain marketplace offering free SSL on all domains parked with us for over a year now.

Read more about DAN and our future plans here: https://blog.undeveloped.com/a-big-leap-forward-3a3cc59ed418

This thread is created to act as an informal communication board between the DAN team and the domain community. Feel free to post feedback here and to discuss how you use DAN.

What this thread is not meant for is support. Please contact our support team here: [email protected] when you need assistance.

Previous reviews under old brand: https://www.namepros.com/threads/undeveloped-com-experience.893201/

 

[DAN.COM]

Is there any way to remove the $100 minimum for “Make an offer” or is $100 the least that Dan accepts? I have some domains expiring next month and would be happy to receive some slightly lower offers for some of them.

Good afternoon @Callmejohn,
Afraid not. $100 is the lowest offer value at Dan.com.

Best regards,
Dan.com

 

[DAN.COM]

The behavior is consistent: First visit from any browser over any network results in error. Given a short time gap, e.g. a minute, subsequent visits lead to a valid lander. The issue repeats after an unknown amount of time has passed. Check your Apache configuration and SSL implementation, TTL settings for the ns1.dan.com and ns2.dan.com nameservers and anything else for that matter. This is a major glitch!

Good afternoon @Acroplex,
As we mentioned in another thread, we're working on this, and we'll keep everyone posted on our progress. We are grateful for your assistance, information, and patience.

Best regards,
Dan.com

 

[Acroplex]

Good afternoon @Acroplex,
As we mentioned in another thread, we're working on this, and we'll keep everyone posted on our progress. We are grateful for your assistance, information, and patience.

Best regards,
Dan.com

Thanks. It is happening right now, so that you know.

 

[Acroplex]

I believe @DAN.COM has eliminated the issue without being specific as to what it took to fix it.

At a minimum, SSL requests don't seem to get blocked and they don't return errors. Keep your fingers crossed!

 

[Yanosh]

I believe @DAN.COM has eliminated the issue without being specific as to what it took to fix it.

At a minimum, SSL requests don't seem to get blocked and they don't return errors. Keep your fingers crossed!

Yeah , seems they did
It took quite some time , honestly

 

[Maxxo]

- make the cookie popup GDPR smaller on lander pages
- let users domains for sale dash settings be saved
- lower DAN commission fee to 10% (dynadot charges 4%)

 

[Webmail]

Redacted for privacy.

 

[Bailian]

Is it possible to add other virtual currency payment methods? Bitpay is unable to complete account verification.

 

[Dane]

Making the cookie popup window smaller size has been brought up so many times by now, I am sure by now they are well aware of it.

What I wonder is why they don't make it smaller, it can't be that hard to make the popup smaller.

Since they make money when we make money you would think it's in their best interest to make the lander the least annoying possible.

Oh, they're aware of it. And the "old" Dan would have made the popup smaller by now. But the "new" Dan seems to be fine with the large popup. I guess the question is... why?

 

[john888]

Since Dan staff is present and this is about marketplace, what gives with this? Bought a domain on Dan for fraction price of what was listed on Afternic. How about explain the reason for cancelled transaction with more detail??

Unfortunately, the seller did not want to deliver the domain at the agreed price.

Therefore, we are forced to cancel this transaction.

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

Dan, help me understand this.

I asked your customer support to remove the new, latest batch of now 31 unauthorized Dan listings. For verification purposes, I took privacy off and emailed from the account listed on Whois.

Your customer support earlier this month removed another batch of rogue listings after I did this. Now they are requiring a cpanel txt.

If a customer has provided reasonable evidence up front of ownership, is there any reason you cannot remove those domains? Why not then ask the alleged rogue seller to verify ownership? And wouldn't it be best to provide a block for subsequent listings, so that ownership verification is mandated prior to any relisting attempts?

The rogue listings and relistings are getting very tiring. And it has firmly reinforced my decision to not list my domains with Dan, Afternic or GoDaddy. So do not ask me to list my domains at Dan and add a txt, since the listings are exclusively on a different marketplace.

 

[Jannes]

Dan, help me understand this.

I asked your customer support to remove the new, latest batch of now 31 unauthorized Dan listings. For verification purposes, I took privacy off and emailed from the account listed on Whois.

Your customer support earlier this month removed another batch of rogue listings after I did this. Now they are requiring a cpanel txt.

If a customer has provided reasonable evidence up front of ownership, is there any reason you cannot remove those domains? Why not then ask the alleged rogue seller to verify ownership? And wouldn't it be best to provide a block for subsequent listings, so that ownership verification is mandated prior to any relisting attempts?

The rogue listings and relistings are getting very tiring. And it has firmly reinforced my decision to not list my domains with Dan, Afternic or GoDaddy. So do not ask me to list my domains at Dan and add a txt, since the listings are exclusively on a different marketplace.

Dan.com is EU-based (Netherlands). There must be some EU or even local law that would be applicable in this situation, where the company forces people to become its customers/members in order to remove and prevent rogue listings of their assets by scammers who can list without any verification. If only the EU bureaucrats knew about this situation… (They might also be interested in the required pricing in dollars within the Eurozone.)

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

Dan.com is EU-based (Netherlands). There must be some EU or even local law that would be applicable in this situation, where the company forces people to become its customers/members in order to remove and prevent rogue listings of their assets by scammers who can list without any verification. If only the EU bureaucrats knew about this situation… (They might also be interested in the required pricing in dollars within the Eurozone.)

Well, since I closed my account with Dan a long time ago and have no intention of reopening one, we seem to be at an impasse here. No doubt, the current approach to rogue listings runs contrary to fair trade practices in the U.S.

The txt record doesn't seem to make sense. Each time this happens, I would have to take down all my domains from the Dynadot marketplace. I'd have to put in the txt record, wait for Dan/Afternic to remove the offending name, and then redo my entire Dynadot listing again. That is futile.

If Swetha has moved all of her domains out of Dan and Afternic, is she going to be required to do this each and every time a rogue listing shows up?

 

[Bailian]

Well, since I closed my account with Dan a long time ago and have no intention of reopening one, we seem to be at an impasse here. No doubt, the current approach to rogue listings runs contrary to fair trade practices in the U.S.

The txt record doesn't seem to make sense. Each time this happens, I would have to take down all my domains from the Dynadot marketplace. I'd have to put in the txt record, wait for Dan/Afternic to remove the offending name, and then redo my entire Dynadot listing again. That is futile.

If Swetha has moved all of her domains out of Dan and Afternic, is she going to be required to do this each and every time a rogue listing shows up?

Hey dude, are your domain sales volume or revenue high? Can we chat about something substantial? Verification is usually a breeze, why's it such a hassle with you?

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

Hey dude, are your domain sales volume or revenue high? Can we chat about something substantial? Verification is usually a breeze, why's it such a hassle with you?

Wow, dude, thanks for that response. You made me rethink why verification was a breeze before (with taking privacy off), so why is this added step being required all of a sudden. Is the issue here, Dan, that you prefer to avoid having your staff having to do the deletions manually?

Bailian is right, that there are far more substantial issues out there. I already verifed myself, so please remove the rogue seller domains and block any further usage of any domains in my portfolio, whether for listing or even search purposes.

Dan.com, I would certainly hope, whether one has a small or large portfolio, that you can respect a registrant's right to have appropriate use of a domain name on a forum of his or her choice

 

[Bailian]

Wow, dude, thanks for that response. You made me rethink why verification was a breeze before (with taking privacy off), so why is this added step being required all of a sudden. Is the issue here, Dan, that you prefer to avoid having your staff having to do the deletions manually?

Bailian is right, that there are far more substantial issues out there. I already verifed myself, so please remove the rogue seller domains and block any further usage of any domains in my portfolio, whether for listing or even search purposes.

Dan.com, I would certainly hope, whether one has a small or large portfolio, that you can respect a registrant's right to have appropriate use of a domain name on a forum of his or her choice

I'm really curious. Since you've removed your entire portfolio from dan.com, why are you still concerned if someone else adds your domain names to the platform? What's the advantage for them in doing so? You're the owner of the domains, so even if they manage to sell them, they won't receive any profit. It appears that your domain list has become a target for pranks. I believe the blame should fall on the pranksters, not on dan.com. I see no wrongdoing on dan.com's part. If you don't intend to sell your domains on dan.com, you could simply ignore these pranks, or alternatively, add your domains to dan.com and set them as "Make an offer" instead of a fixed price.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Curious by nature? Whats it any of your business why the lady dude does what she does?
Maybe its how it get indexed in google, maybe some are upset with how unknown quantities are adding other peoples assets and dont want to support daddy
Maybe daddy is doing this to force people to sign up.
I do no you agree to terms and conditions when adding names to sedo.
Daddy and his boy Dan couldnt be bothered, they would rather stuff a big cookie on your lander.

the pranks comment above.
Really wouldnt surprise me. Best thing to do is fly under the radar like the heavy hitters. That comment from 2 years ago still makes me chuckle

You see no wrong doing on dans part?
That helps understanding where you stand anyways.
Another month be 16 years here, seen so much. Recent events are mind blowing
Corruption. Domain at your own risk
And remember daddy and dan are your competition
Remax should send their leads to Century 21
Hope that helps dudes
Thanks Laslo and Reza. I hope your enjoying the moolah. All that work you did gets destroyed by greed or some skids that get their rocks off causing people grief.
Mess with the queen. Sorry we disagree on that one L.
Were all in this together
One big happy family

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

I'm really curious. Since you've removed your entire portfolio from dan.com, why are you still concerned if someone else adds your domain names to the platform?

Is there anyone on NP forum that wouldn't care about rogue sellers listing their domains wherever they want, for whatever price they choose--even if it isn't going to actually produce a sale?

Thank you and @MasterOfMyDomains for your responses. The key here is whether Dan.com can actually place a block on these domains after removal, to prevent further listing without actual verification first. So let's see what the have to say. And, sadly, I'm still awaiting removal of the unauthorized listings.
So, @DAN.COM, could you kindly encourage customer support in the removal of these unathorized listings and block them from being relisted without verification? I can PM the list.

 

[DomainRecap]

I'm really curious. Since you've removed your entire portfolio from dan.com, why are you still concerned if someone else adds your domain names to the platform? What's the advantage for them in doing so? You're the owner of the domains, so even if they manage to sell them, they won't receive any profit.

Because there is this little thing called "Fast Transfer" whereby scammers list domains they don't own hoping that the real owner will mistakenly approve the listing email, which then gives the marketplace the authority to auto-complete any sale in the future that the scammers fraudulently generate.

That's why these jerkwads lists tens of thousands of domains they don't own, because a small portion of the owners mistakenly accept the listing email, thinking it's for a domain they have at Dan. And because of this, these fraudulent sales happen every day and the fraudsters get rich.

This is not a "prank" it's a devious way to steal money.

And even if you are diligent and don't approve any listings, this still potentially means hundreds of these messages hitting your emails box, and maybe thousands for those with larger portfolios. There have been posts on Twitter where a guy is suddenly swamped with mass listing emails for domains he's never listed at Dan.

 

[Bailian]

Is there anyone on NP forum that wouldn't care about rogue sellers listing their domains wherever they want, for whatever price they choose--even if it isn't going to actually produce a sale?

Thank you and @MasterOfMyDomains for your resonses. The key here is whether Dan can actually place a block on at least these domains after removal, to prevent further listing without actual verification first. So let's see what the have to say.

Because there is this little thing called "Fast Transfer" whereby scammers list domains they don't own hoping that the real owner will mistakenly approve the email for listing, which then gives the marketplace the authority to auto-complete any sale in the future that the scammers fraudulently generate.

That's why these jerkwads lists thousands of domains they don't own, because some of the owners mistakenly accept the listing email, thinking it's for a domain they have at Dan. And because of this, these fraudulent sales happen every day and the fraudsters get rich.

This is not a "prank" it's a devious way to steal money.

I know this, but as far as I know, dan does not have fast transfer, only afternic does

 

[DomainRecap]

If I list a domain on Dan (especially with a BIN) and then get a private offer, as there is no way to make a domain "Not for Sale" like on other venues, can I just do this instead:

Change the Domain Status to "Sold"

Then if the deal doesn't pan out, can I then change the flag back to "For Sale" with no repercussions?

I just want to make sure I don't have to reauthorize (DNS TXT) after listing it as "Sold" as that would defeat the entire purpose - I just want a viable way to make a listing "Not for Sale" (without changing a pile of settings like Price, BIN, Lease, etc.) while I conduct a private inquiry.

Hint @DAN.COM this might be a good idea for an update, adding a third "Not for Sale" (does not display in Search) option For Domain Status for domains under negotiation elsewhere.

 

[DomainRecap]

I know this, but as far as I know, dan does not have fast transfer, only afternic does

Dan listings with BIN are automatically listed on the Afternic Network and I think that's the end goal.

And yes, all of these fraudsters use (usually low) BINs to enhance fast sales.

 

[camcon]

How long has the "+ 21% VAT" notice been on the "Make Offer" area for generic non-EU DAN buyers?

I just noticed it yesterday while I was testing out some new listing and as I'm not in the EU, I was very surprised to see this displayed on all my domain listings.

It's interesting as I forward everything to Dan, but recently my Dan offers have totally dried up and everyone is using GoDaddy or Afternic for offers and purchases. It just might be a massive coincidence and the "+ 21% VAT" notice might have been there for years without me noticing. Or it might not.

@DAN.COM

You can only charge vat to someone if you're vat registered. So if you've not got a vat registration in UK or Europe then you shouldn't be charging any vat to your UK/EU buyers. A seller with no UK/EU vat registration cannot charge UK/EU vat. Are you saying Dan are adding vat to your UK/EU sales price when you're not vat registered?

Even if they're acting as your agent I don't understand why they would charge vat on a sale if the 'principal' (seller) is not vat registered. Very strange. Have you asked them? Or do they state their vat policy anywhere?

 

[Jannes]

You can only charge vat to someone if you're vat registered. So if you've not got a vat registration in UK or Europe then you shouldn't be charging any vat to your UK/EU buyers. A seller with no UK/EU vat registration cannot charge UK/EU vat. Are you saying Dan are adding vat to your UK/EU sales price when you're not vat registered?

Even if they're acting as your agent I don't understand why they would charge vat on a sale if the 'principal' (seller) is not vat registered. Very strange. Have you asked them? Or do they state their vat policy anywhere?

This has been discussed in this thread from July onwards. Basically, Dan/Undeveloped BV (EU based) is now the middleman buyer and seller (transacting party), which has certain VAT consequences that, to my knowledge, have never been well explained by the company itself.

 

[DAN.COM]

Is there anyone on NP forum that wouldn't care about rogue sellers listing their domains wherever they want, for whatever price they choose--even if it isn't going to actually produce a sale?

Thank you and @MasterOfMyDomains for your responses. The key here is whether Dan.com can actually place a block on these domains after removal, to prevent further listing without actual verification first. So let's see what the have to say. And, sadly, I'm still awaiting removal of the unauthorized listings.
So, @DAN.COM, could you kindly encourage customer support in the removal of these unathorized listings and block them from being relisted without verification? I can PM the list.

Good afternoon @LoveCatchyDomains,
We make listing domains at Dan.com easy and frictionless and in case there are listings that aren't up to date, we have ownership verification. If another seller is listing your domains intentionally, our support staff will investigate. You can initiate a conversation through https://dan.com/contact.

Best regards,
Dan.com