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Here you can spout your USA political views.

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5. Have fun :)

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Boy, Mulvaney is a true Trump Chump.
 
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Its not all BS. But they do go and on too much just like FOX with their Trump positive propaganda.

But then is it really any different with all of us here in this thread?
There's always two sides to every story. When 95% of the Media only talks negative shit and invents shit 100% of the time about Trump, someone has to show the other side, to half the population that voted for him.

The #1 thing I most like about Trump is that he was the first major leader to tell the Liberal Media, without any fear of repercussions, exactly what I've been talking about in this thread for over 6-7 years. That they are Fake, lying BS'ers, that can't be trusted, or to quote Donald "The enemy of the people".

If FOX is there with some reporters being pro-Trump, it is to counter the avalanche of relentless hatred coming from the Liberal Media (including Fox News) against conservatives, who also deserve a voice... after all, they represent half the population of the US.

If the Liberal Media had any brains or common sense, they would realize that they've become so unpopular, so biased, that the vast majority of people regard them as untrustworthy, not only in the US but in Europe as well and I'm sure in other parts of the world.

I make sure to read and listen to the Liberal Media so that I'm aware of the way they spin stories, the way they lie and the way they omit information. I'm very aware of their dirty tricks and believe me, they will NEVER be able to convince me UNLESS they start to become unbiased.

If Liberals can't recognize that, then not even a long spell in a Gulag will help.
 
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Cease fire reached,
All you cry babies can change your wet diapers and move on.
Thank you and God bless

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What the hell did I just watch???
Trump is if anything the Sickest, Strangest and Weirdest President in history.
 
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Cease fire reached,
All you cry babies can change your wet diapers and move on.
Thank you and God bless

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Now being reported by Turkey: "Not a Ceasefire but Just a Pause"
That took less then an hour.

I guess you prematurely ejaculated.
 
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Now being reported by Turkey: "Not a Ceasefire but Just a Pause"
That took less then an hour.

I guess you prematurely ejaculated.

You're wrong again,
As stated in the agreement... CEASE FIRE for 5 days then all sanctions will be removed agaisnt Turkey and permanent agreement goes into effect.
Now wipe your lip after that knob.
 
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You're wrong again,
As stated in the agreement... CEASE FIRE for 5 days then all sanctions will be removed agaisnt Turkey and permanent agreement goes into effect.
Now wipe your lip after that knob.
Stop spewing on yourself,

Turkish foreign minister: "This is not a ceasefire"
From CNN's Flora Charner

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said the reached agreement between the US and Turkey to suspend military operations in Syria is not a ceasefire.

"This is not a ceasefire," Cavusoglu said during a televised news conference today.
“We will pause the operation for 120 hours in order for the terrorists to leave,” Cavusoglu said. "We will only stop the operation if our conditions are met.”

Cavusoglu said a “safe zone” would need to be established at roughly 20 miles east of the Euphrates river to the Iraqi border.
 
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From CNN's

And there's your problem.

How about you watch the actual conference for yourself so your not suckered by the c*nts news network.
 
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All of a sudden lennco wants to wait before jumping to conclusions.

Slow down there kido, lets see how this Really plays out.

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The Munich Agreement​
 
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TK Foreign Minister called it a pause. You're arguing semantics.

Stop spewing on yourself,

Turkish foreign minister: "This is not a ceasefire"
From CNN's Flora Charner

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said the reached agreement between the US and Turkey to suspend military operations in Syria is not a ceasefire.

"This is not a ceasefire," Cavusoglu said during a televised news conference today.
“We will pause the operation for 120 hours in order for the terrorists to leave,” Cavusoglu said. "We will only stop the operation if our conditions are met.”

Cavusoglu said a “safe zone” would need to be established at roughly 20 miles east of the Euphrates river to the Iraqi border.
 
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You're arguing semantics.
Its called taking a Pause :xf.wink:


That is what I said.


All Cognac is Brandy, but not all Brandy is Cognac.
 
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Here's the craziest thing about the Trump White House's quid pro quo with Ukraine

Updated 3:13 PM ET, Thu October 17, 2019
(CNN)Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney acknowledged in a news conference Thursday that the US withheld military aid from Ukraine in hopes of securing a promise that the foreign government would look into the possible presence of the physical Democratic National Committee server hacked by the Russians in 2016.

Mulvaney's willing acknowledgment of that quid pro quo -- "we do that all the time with foreign policy" -- is a big deal.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/politics/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-ukraine-dnc/index.html

Everyone in the White House is running around at this minute saying to one another...."What the Hell did he just say?" :xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL:
 
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Here's the craziest thing about the Trump White House's quid pro quo with Ukraine

Updated 3:13 PM ET, Thu October 17, 2019
(CNN)Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney acknowledged in a news conference Thursday that the US withheld military aid from Ukraine in hopes of securing a promise that the foreign government would look into the possible presence of the physical Democratic National Committee server hacked by the Russians in 2016.

Mulvaney's willing acknowledgment of that quid pro quo -- "we do that all the time with foreign policy" -- is a big deal.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/politics/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-ukraine-dnc/index.html

Everyone in the White House is running around at this minute saying to one another...."What the Hell did he just say?" :xf.laugh::ROFL::xf.laugh::ROFL:

oops.

The stuff Gilsan is posting is nonsense, btw. I see what angle they're trying to take.

The actual impeachment trial will be public.

The meetings aren't open to everybody. There are both Dems and Repubs in them. The people that aren't supposed to be there, will be turned away. We have Republicans that know they're not supposed to be there, go there to get turned away and then make it seem like it's some secret stuff to keep them out of the loop. This type of stuff has a specific target audience. Dumb or lazy people.

From Biggs own tweet that Gilsan posted - https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/status/1184497784457699328?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1184497784457699328&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/watch-gop-rep-andy-biggs-denied-access-to-schiffs-secret-chamber-where-he-is-running-unauthorized-impeachment-inquiry/

that nonsense gets handled, some replies:

"No one can attend committee hearings if they don't serve on that committee--this has always been the case. And no "authorization" is needed from outside the House of Representatives to do what is their job and their's alone: impeachment enquiry and impeachment."

"Translation: you aren’t on the committee and are thus not invited to railroad the increasingly egregious facts coming from a growing pool of appalled staffers and former-staffers."

"This is a lie--straight up. No one has access to committee meetings when they do not serve on that committee. An impeachment enquiry does NOT require "authorization" from anyone but the House of Representatives--impeachment starts in the House. This man is lying."

etc.

Again, there are Republicans in those meetings, the ones that are supposed to be there.
 
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oops.

The stuff Gilsan is posting is nonsense, btw. I see what angle they're trying to take.

The actual impeachment trial will be public.

The meetings aren't open to everybody. There are both Dems and Repubs in them. The people that aren't supposed to be there, will be turned away. We have Republicans that know they're not supposed to be there, go there to get turned away and then make it seem like it's some secret stuff to keep them out of the loop. This type of stuff has a specific target audience. Dumb or lazy people.

From Biggs own tweet that Gilsan posted - https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/status/1184497784457699328?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1184497784457699328&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/watch-gop-rep-andy-biggs-denied-access-to-schiffs-secret-chamber-where-he-is-running-unauthorized-impeachment-inquiry/

that nonsense gets handled, some replies:

"No one can attend committee hearings if they don't serve on that committee--this has always been the case. And no "authorization" is needed from outside the House of Representatives to do what is their job and their's alone: impeachment enquiry and impeachment."

"Translation: you aren’t on the committee and are thus not invited to railroad the increasingly egregious facts coming from a growing pool of appalled staffers and former-staffers."

"This is a lie--straight up. No one has access to committee meetings when they do not serve on that committee. An impeachment enquiry does NOT require "authorization" from anyone but the House of Representatives--impeachment starts in the House. This man is lying."

etc.

Again, there are Republicans in those meetings, the ones that are supposed to be there.
Years ago I tried to get into The Playboy Club.
They told me I couldn't come in.
I asked: Why?
They said because you are not a member.
I said: Oh.
Looking back I guess I should have held a news conference about it.
 
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Meme of the Day :xf.grin:

I woke up way late, about to workout but will catch up on all of this later but damn so much gold here.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Mulvaney&src=trend_click

"Sekulow: "The president's legal counsel was not involved in acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney's press briefing."

Kurt Eichenwald
1. The magnitude of what Mulvaney has just confessed is far beyond anything we have faced as a country since its founding. This is *not* simply a quid pro quo. This is extortion, and a violation of criminal law under Title 18 U.S. Code § 878....

Mulvaney is right, quid pro quos in foreign policy happens all the time, but to advance American NATIONAL interests, not the PRIVATE personal reelection interests of the president. There's a difference. A big difference!
Michael McFaul


@mr-x look at it this way. You like Pence better anyways. So unless he's going down as well, which would be funny, then we would have a President Pelosi.

Who knows, but it is not looking good right now and it just continues to get worse.
 
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Years ago I tried to get into The Playboy Club.
They told me I couldn't come in.
I asked: Why?
They said because you are not a member.
I said: Oh.
Looking back I guess I should have held a news conference about it.
Here you go... just finished talking to my buddy Donald in Washington... he sent this to send to you. Just be careful not to grab the bunnies by the pussy, or you may lose the privileges of this Gold Card!
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Our Republic Is Under Attack From the President

If President Trump doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office.​

By William H. McRaven
Admiral McRaven is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command. Oct 17 2019

Last week I attended two memorable events that reminded me why we care so very much about this nation and also why our future may be in peril.

The first was a change of command ceremony for a storied Army unit in which one general officer passed authority to another. The second event was an annual gala for the Office of Strategic Services (O.S.S.) Society that recognizes past and present members of the intelligence and Special Operations community for their heroism and sacrifice to the nation. What struck me was the stark contrast between the words and deeds heralded at those events — and the words and deeds emanating from the White House.

On the parade field at Fort Bragg, N.C., where tens of thousands of soldiers have marched either preparing to go to war or returning from it, the two generals, highly decorated, impeccably dressed, cleareyed and strong of character, were humbled by the moment.

They understood the awesome responsibility that the nation had placed on their shoulders. They understood that they had an obligation to serve their soldiers and their soldiers’ families. They believed in the American values for which they had been fighting for the past three decades. They had faith that these values were worth sacrificing everything for — including, if necessary, their lives.

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Having served with both officers for the past 20 years, the genuineness of their humility, their uncompromising integrity, their willingness to sacrifice all for a worthy cause, and the pride they had in their soldiers, personified all that is good and decent and honorable about the American military.

Later that week, at the O.S.S. Society dinner, there were films and testimonials to the valor of the men and women who had fought in Europe and the Pacific during World War II. We also celebrated the 75th anniversary of D-Day, recognizing those brave Americans and allies who sacrificed so much to fight Nazism and fascism. We were reminded that the Greatest Generation went to war because it believed that we were the good guys — that wherever there was oppression, tyranny or despotism, America would be there. We would be there because freedom mattered. We would be there because the world needed us and if not us, then who?

Also that evening we recognized the incredible sacrifice of a new generation of Americans: an Army Special Forces warrant officer who had been wounded three times, the most recent injury costing him his left leg above the knee. He was still in uniform and still serving. There was an intelligence officer, who embodied the remarkable traits of those men and women who had served in the O.S.S. And a retired Marine general, whose 40 years of service demonstrated all that was honorable about the Corps and public service.

But the most poignant recognition that evening was for a young female sailor who had been killed in Syria serving alongside our allies in the fight against ISIS. Her husband, a former Army Green Beret, accepted the award on her behalf. Like so many that came before her, she had answered the nation’s call and willingly put her life in harm’s way.

For everyone who ever served in uniform, or in the intelligence community, for those diplomats who voice the nation’s principles, for the first responders, for the tellers of truth and the millions of American citizens who were raised believing in American values — you would have seen your reflection in the faces of those we honored last week.

But, beneath the outward sense of hope and duty that I witnessed at these two events, there was an underlying current of frustration, humiliation, anger and fear that echoed across the sidelines. The America that they believed in was under attack, not from without, but from within.

These men and women, of all political persuasions, have seen the assaults on our institutions: on the intelligence and law enforcement community, the State Department and the press. They have seen our leaders stand beside despots and strongmen, preferring their government narrative to our own. They have seen us abandon our allies and have heard the shouts of betrayal from the battlefield. As I stood on the parade field at Fort Bragg, one retired four-star general, grabbed my arm, shook me and shouted, “I don’t like the Democrats, but Trump is destroying the Republic!”

Those words echoed with me throughout the week. It is easy to destroy an organization if you have no appreciation for what makes that organization great. We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate.

But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?

If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up?

President Trump seems to believe that these qualities are unimportant or show weakness. He is wrong. These are the virtues that have sustained this nation for the past 243 years. If we hope to continue to lead the world and inspire a new generation of young men and women to our cause, then we must embrace these values now more than ever.

And if this president doesn’t understand their importance, if this president doesn’t demonstrate the leadership that America needs, both domestically and abroad, then it is time for a new person in the Oval Office — Republican, Democrat or independent — the sooner, the better. The fate of our Republic depends upon it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/opinion/trump-mcraven-syria-military.html

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William H. McRaven, a retired Navy admiral, is a former commander of the United States Special Operations Command and former chancellor of The University of Texas system.​

^ A Real American Hero, Officer and a Gentleman.​
 
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