question FitnessGirl.com - why so expensive?

Your posts show a lack of understanding of the value of domains. You’re best off just getting some hand registered garbage if you cannot see the value in a premium domain.

Whether it’s worth $69k isn’t the point but your posts seem to be insisting that no domain absent huge search statistics could be worth much and that’s not the case.

DragonDF said:

I am here to UNDERSTAND (as a professional) how this could happened.

Tks for who that tried to help.

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Not all domain owner's know the history behind all their domain's.

Not all domain owner's consider the history when pricing their domain.

Sometimes, domainers try to understand how a mediocre name actually sells for $69k. And part of the answer, is because the seller had the to ask for that amount. If you don't ask, you will not receive.

DragonDF said:

Guys, I respect your opinion.

But a price (in my mind) for something needs to have a 'value' involved. And this domain HAS NOT.

1. Yes, I contact him. And he replied me: $ 69,000 .

2. For you who think that this domain can value $69K (or 1K) I will show this is not real:
2.1 - a domain that was used for a long time as a PORN website or redirect for one.
2.2 - there is no GOOD TRAFFIC STATISTICs about it:

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/fitnessgirl.com

We don't have enough data to rank this website.
If this is your website, sign up and get certified to get direct measurements of your site's traffic.

3. You can buy another FITNESSGIRL.SOMETHING for $7-15
As I explained before, if you go to GOOGLE and type "fitnessgirl" (yes, the best way to find it.. two words together) you WILL NOT SEE this domain in the first 10 (TEN) pages OF the results.



Yes, I know that the domain can start now and as a 'good name' it can bring something good after a time. But If needed to do it, I would prefer to pay $7 in a new and not porn-history domain.

My 2 cents.

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Stop playing games... it has no value SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO BUY IT? I mean, why would anyone want to buy something that has no value or even offer $1,000? You should move on!

I have checked how many .coms are registered with include the term "fitnessgirl" - seems that there are 116, plus over 30 with included numbers. If some of them are developed this domain would be a perfect upgrade for them. 69K seems a lot but for the right enduser it could be worth even more, imo.

Registered Domain Names

Matched 116 domain names out of 165 million in 0.00 seconds.
1. [WHOIS] fitnessgirl.com
2. [WHOIS] amfitnessgirl.com
3. [WHOIS] bikinifitnessgirl.com
4. [WHOIS] brainfitnessgirl.com
5. [WHOIS] burlesquefitnessgirl.com
6. [WHOIS] coastalfitnessgirl.com
7. [WHOIS] collegefitnessgirl.com
8. [WHOIS] dentonfitnessgirl.com
9. [WHOIS] eroticfitnessgirl.com
10. [WHOIS] evergreenfitnessgirl.com
11. [WHOIS] fatfitnessgirl.com
12. [WHOIS] fiercefitnessgirl.com
13. [WHOIS] foodiefitnessgirl.com
14. [WHOIS] fromcouchgirltofitnessgirl.com
15. [WHOIS] funkyfitnessgirl.com
16. [WHOIS] glowfitnessgirl.com
17. [WHOIS] gothicfitnessgirl.com
18. [WHOIS] gotofitnessgirl.com
19. [WHOIS] groupfitnessgirl.com
20. [WHOIS] healthandfitnessgirl.com
21. [WHOIS] hotfitnessgirl.com
22. [WHOIS] igfitnessgirl.com
23. [WHOIS] internetfitnessgirl.com
24. [WHOIS] justanotherfitnessgirl.com
25. [WHOIS] karenthefitnessgirl.com
26. [WHOIS] londonfitnessgirl.com
27. [WHOIS] londonsfitnessgirl.com
28. [WHOIS] marisolfitnessgirl.com
29. [WHOIS] missfitnessgirl.com
30. [WHOIS] motivationfitnessgirl.com
31. [WHOIS] myfitnessgirl.com
32. [WHOIS] naughtyfitnessgirl.com
33. [WHOIS] nudefitnessgirl.com
34. [WHOIS] ocfitnessgirl.com
35. [WHOIS] secretsofafitnessgirl.com
36. [WHOIS] sexyfitnessgirl.com
37. [WHOIS] thatfitnessgirl.com
38. [WHOIS] thefitnessgirl.com
39. [WHOIS] thenerdyfitnessgirl.com
40. [WHOIS] tntfitnessgirl.com
41. [WHOIS] universityfitnessgirl.com
42. [WHOIS] urbanfitnessgirl.com
43. [WHOIS] varsityfitnessgirl.com
44. [WHOIS] xoxofitnessgirl.com
45. [WHOIS] yourfitnessgirl.com
46. [WHOIS] fitnessgirlapp.com
47. [WHOIS] fitnessgirlapparel.com
48. [WHOIS] miafitnessgirlblog.com
49. [WHOIS] fitnessgirlbootcamp.com
50. [WHOIS] fitnessgirlbychoice.com

DragonDF said:

Hello guys!

I'd like to know what makes this domain (fitnessgirl.com) so especial that his actual owner thinks it costs $ 69K .
It was $1K one or two years ago.
And I thought it was expensive.
This domain have been used in adult promotion. So, it has not a serious value if you will use for something 'corrrect'.

Is there any way to buy domains in a REAL price? Or the owner can insert the price he thinks it values and you need to wait?

Tks!

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that is just ok.. people usually over quote manytimes. I enquired a domain recently and the owner wanted $69k co-incidentally. Apparently it was at godaddy Bin of $3850 which was removed 2 days after my direct enquiry to him.

I'm sure that this fitness girl earned more than 69K

Hi DragonDF !
My suggestion to you:
This forum is full of rich information to read and learn, don't hesitate to do this to get good understanding of domaining !

jideofor said:

Stop playing games... it has no value SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO BUY IT? I mean, why would anyone want to buy something that has no value or even offer $1,000? You should move on!

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Do I should move on from where? From this thread?

Can you copy and paste here the SUBJECT of this thread?

Move on you. You need to move on. Not me.

I asked something and I am trying to understand what the owner is trying to do.

He bought something for $777 and is trying to sell for U$ 69K.

I asked: WHY SO EXPENSIVE?

The reply can be:
I do not know.
Because he is crazy.
Because he wants.
Because I do not mind.
Because he does not want to sell.
...
But not.. MOVE ON.


Show you are an expert in DOMAINs and not you have not what to do to enter here to contribute with NOTHING.

KhaledA said:

Hi DragonDF !
My suggestion to you:
This forum is full of rich information to read and learn, don't hesitate to do this to get good understanding of domaining !

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I do not mind.

But I posted here because I thought that people who live by buying and selling domains could clarify the strategy.
I see some (not all) dishonest ones who do not contribute at all.

It’s a good name. I think you are just irritated you didn’t obtain the name when it was $1 K like that guy did.

DragonDF said:

clarify the strategy

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Looks like he's using the "buy low, sell high" strategy, which is quite common among domainers.

Grilled said:

It used to be redirected to a porn domain, and archival sites have cached that. However, it was never actually branded as a porn site. The redirect looks to be from the previous owner (before the 2016 sale).

It's unknown if whomever purchased it for $777 knew its redirect history, and it is not known if the next owner will know the redirect history. Does the redirect history mean the domain can no longer be used in the fitness industry? Based on the name itself, I think fitness girl is better fit for the fitness industry, rather than porn.

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Archive.org removes pages on the request of current owner. So that shouldn't be a problem either.

Thank you for triggering so many people with this thread @DragonDF; good read and I learned some things whilst having diner. Cheers

Recons.Com said:

Archive.org removes pages on the request of current owner. So that shouldn't be a problem either.

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Good to know. Though screenshots aren't just recorded in Archive.org.

I used domaintools to see a few years worth of redirected screenshots. I think NameBio pulled the last known domaintools screenshot, and using the namebio link on page one of this thread, you can see the adult related screenshot there as well.

Grilled said:

Good to know. Though screenshots aren't just recorded in Archive.org.

I used domaintools to see a few years worth of redirected screenshots. I think NameBio pulled the last known domaintools screenshot, and using the namebio link on page one of this thread, you can see the adult related screenshot there as well.

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For general public, archive.org, I assume, is more important. And others should also remove screenshots upon request, imho. If they don't, I don't really believe it would really hurt the name that much. I'd avoid names associated with fraudulent activity, scam etc. Those won't "wash off" easily.

price is not that far off if you see comparable auction sales:

fitnessguru.com 45,000 USD 2012-05-23 Afternic
extremefitness.com 25,000 USD 2013-04-08 Afternic
fitnessclass.com 22,500 USD 2012-09-12 Uniregistry / DomainAdvisors
fitnesstrainer.com 20,888 USD 2010-02-11 SnapNames
dolphinfitness.com 20,000 USD 2013-11-06 Uniregistry
gamesforgirls.com 500,000 USD 2011-02-18 Sedo
russiangirls.com 120,000 USD 2013-08-28 Uniregistry
kinkygirls.com 65,000 USD 2006-02-07 Moniker
girly.com 30,000 USD 2007-12-06 Sedo
kinkygirl.com 25,000 USD 2006-02-28 Moniker
badgirl.com 23,998 USD 2009-04-13 SnapNames
gogirl.com 22,322 USD 2017-07-07 NameJet
streamgirl.com 19,200 USD 2012-04-18 Afternic
girlcams.com 16,000 USD 2006-11-25 Moniker
girlsonly.com 15,250 USD 2009-02-11 Moniker

You see a diamond ring in a jewelry store priced for $69,000 - you either have a choice to buy it or buy a cheaper smaller diamond ring. Both are marked up 10,000% - you decide what's in your budget. diamonds have no real value other than the fact they are kept artificially scarce and rare. Domain names are one of a kind - hence makes them rare too.

It's a great workout brand, or ftiness product brand. He gave you the I don't want to sell it price, if you are launching a brand that is the cost of doing business. I think he would probably take $25K if you put that kind of money in front of him, with a short acceptance window.

agree

DragonDF said:

...............I asked something and I am trying to understand what the owner is trying to do.

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Why dont you ask the owner what he is trying to do, instead of people on a forum? The owner is the only person who can MAYBE make you understand what he's trying to do. You do not have to agree with what he's trying to do, but you should be able to understand what he's trying to do after he explains it.

DragonDF said:

He bought something for $777 and is trying to sell for U$ 69K.

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Yes. Its called capitalism. Dont like it - dont play the game.

Come on. Do you really not understand?

Bottom line: if you do not see the value of $69K in that domain then you are not the buyer. Move along.

I should have purchased bitcoin when it was $2 but now its $15K. I do not see the value in it right now so I am leaving it alone, I am not whining about it.

AGAME said:

Why dont you ask the owner what he is trying to do, instead of people on a forum? The owner is the only person who can MAYBE make you understand what he's trying to do. You do not have to agree with what he's trying to do, but you should be able to understand what he's trying to do after he explains it.



Yes. Its called capitalism. Dont like it - dont play the game.

Come on. Do you really not understand?

Bottom line: if you do not see the value of $69K in that domain then you are not the buyer. Move along.

I should have purchased bitcoin when it was $2 but now its $15K. I do not see the value in it right now so I am leaving it alone, I am not whining about it.

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Totally agree with these statements, it is everywhere, you want that hot toy of Xmas 2017, you got to meet that guy from craigslist and pay sticker x 3, just the way it goes.

You want to that new condo on Miami Beach, all sold out, you have to pay someone a 15% premium to purchase their assignment.

You want superbowl tickets etc...

When it comes to domains people have a hard time understanding this, why is this?

The funny thing is if this person got it for $1K, you think if someone knocked on their door and offered them $1.2K they would sell it, yea right, same ask scenario.

You have to pay to play.

Sorry for delay.
I need to go to the bank (and I lost 1:30h of my life there).

I am not only in this forum. If you think you are so special because you have 1K+ posts, I respect your opinion, but I think forums are not made only for this, but to build knowledge. And I think some people are not here for this reason. They buy a domain for $10 and after 6 months think because they are the owners they will sell for $69K .

It is a BIG illusion. So, like some described here: "move on". I will be here to see if you are so much special to SELL this special domain for a price like that. Specially when you have at least 20 options of others domains in THE SAME NICHE with the SAME NAME (fitnessgirl.XXX) for $8.
And a domain that is not good in SEO (not optimized - if you can understand).

I will try to reply who I think tried to contribute:

karmaco said:

It’s a good name. I think you are just irritated you didn’t obtain the name when it was $1 K like that guy did.

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I think you (and some others) did not understand yet. If this domain costs US$ 500 I WILL NOT buy it.
So, the reason I post it was because it looks like A LOT strange to me that someone could try to post (www.fitnessgirl.com) that he wanted to sell it for a price like that.

JanO said:

Thank you for triggering so many people with this thread @DragonDF; good read and I learned some things whilst having diner. Cheers

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I hope you learned more than me. Because I'd like to see some professional replies and not so many kids (who live to sell domains) irritated because I asked about one domain that they are not the owners.

HotKey said:

Looks like he's using the "buy low, sell high" strategy, which is quite common among domainers.

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Yes, I agree with you.
But from $777 to $69,000 ?

wwwweb said:

It's a great workout brand, or ftiness product brand. He gave you the I don't want to sell it price, if you are launching a brand that is the cost of doing business. I think he would probably take $25K if you put that kind of money in front of him, with a short acceptance window.

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I think he would sell if for $1k or a bit more. Sure, not now. After a few months if he did not receive any better offer.
I continue to think: if you have so many others options (fitnessgirl.SOMEOTHERS) why will you buy a .com domain that was used to 'adult' and it is blocked in some many corporative firewalls. There is no logic to me.

urlurl said:

price is not that far off if you see comparable auction sales:

fitnessguru.com 45,000 USD 2012-05-23 Afternic
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You see a diamond ring in a jewelry store priced for $69,000 - you either have a choice to buy it or buy a cheaper smaller diamond ring. Both are marked up 10,000% - you decide what's in your budget. diamonds have no real value other than the fact they are kept artificially scarce and rare. Domain names are one of a kind - hence makes them rare too.

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I think you are comparing different things. Each diamond has a specific value for some reasons. It is not just "because I want". Or "I bought for $777 and now I want to sell for $69,000 because I am the owner".

AGAME said:

Why dont you ask the owner what he is trying to do, instead of people on a forum? The owner is the only person who can MAYBE make you understand what he's trying to do. You do not have to agree with what he's trying to do, but you should be able to understand what he's trying to do after he explains it.

Yes. Its called capitalism. Dont like it - dont play the game.

Come on. Do you really not understand?

Bottom line: if you do not see the value of $69K in that domain then you are not the buyer. Move along.

I should have purchased bitcoin when it was $2 but now its $15K. I do not see the value in it right now so I am leaving it alone, I am not whining about it.

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I asked. He has not replied yet.
And no, he is not the only person.
I imagined when you are in a market you can try to understand how things happen.
So, when you post in a forum that people are (or you imagine they are) specialist in buying and selling domains.. you will receive a good knowledge about this niche.

"I am not whining about it".
Yes you are.

The difference between me and you is: I do not (and I will not) buy this domain. But you continue thinking about why you did not buy the bitcoin some time ago.

If we are talking about the speculative market, there is a BIG difference between currencies (albeit virtual) and products (albeit virtual).
So comparing one thing with another with the idea of suggesting that it is the same thing shows little financial experience on your part.

BitCoin has not become expensive overnight. He grew up gradually.
This "domain-bitcoin" (fitnessgirl.com) is trying to be MUCH better than BITCOIN, and to grow in months what Bitcoin has taken MUCH more to achieve.

I respect your opinion, but I think different than you.

The value is subjective. /thread

FitnessGirl at 1K was a good buy and could have become a great fashion sports brand. So the choice is register another and spend 68k on marketing and development, welcome to domaining!

Go ahead and reg the other option(s) without negative history.

A fellow domainer is trying to sell that name; doubt you will get the "professional replies" that you are looking for. You have mentioned that name several times in your posts, why?

You know you are not going to buy the name because of the price + history, so why ask him to explain how he came to that price?

The seller can ask for whatever he wants, you pay / negotiate / move on.