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On May 25, 2018, the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) will go into full effect. The privacy regulation will have a major impact on industries that handle personal data of people in the EU, including the domain name industry.

Domain name companies are scrambling to figure out how to comply with the regulation, all while racing against the clock with unclear guidelines from the EU and ICANN.
The regulation aims to minimize data collection and increase transparency. Two overarching principles are privacy by default and privacy by design. So when offering services, privacy must be the default setting rather than an opt-out.
Here are some of my takeaways on GDPR:
  • Expect tiered access to certain elements of Whois. Perhaps they will be available to law enforcement but not the public. The Registration Directory Service (RDS) idea might not be too far off.
  • This is going to be a big cost burden on domain name registrars, especially small ones. They might start contracting with third parties to handle Whois for thin whois domains.
  • Right now registrars handle private information for .com and .net domains and publish this in Whois (thin whois). These two domains are supposed to transfer to a thick Whois model, but don’t be surprised if this is delayed. Also don’t be surprised if Verisign is allowed to raise the price on .com domains after implementing thick Whois.

Read the Domain Name Wire Article Here
 
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protect personal data and ensure free flow of data... ladies and gentlemen the first schizophrenic EU privacy law.

You can't conceal data and free-flow it at the same time. You might sell people in the fact that the policy is on the books but who will enforce it?
Wikileaks, I hear your batphone ringing..

But who's fooling who? People today make one phone call to get around the privacy registrations. Everybody knows a guy...
 
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the European Union’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) will go into full effect

Not a biggie...they are just flexing long atrophied muscles...no long term consequences for those of us in the industry. Business as usual....
 
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Ironic tho because there are fake whois details eg when domains are owned by a person and the dates don't match up with when they actually acquired the domain compared with the whois date which can sometimes conveniently delete the ownership of a domain ever existed in the first place -

Many will be using privacylawyers at some point

Trying to change your address is currently rocket science by having to give unnecessary data eg the data that should be protected - I'm not sure how giving out vast amounts of your data to someone else protects your data lol
 
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Hi all, newbie here :)

Just joined this evening and it's now 4am and I can't stop posting!!! It's like finding a comfy old shoe....

The GDPR is far more disruptive than most realise. ICANN's sloth-like decision making process is resulting in no clear guidance or directive/policy amendments for their registrars, who will no doubt be left with a choice of breaching ICANN (the governing body) policy or facing punitive $10M GDPR fines for each infraction.

Privacy by default will surely dilute the already weak WHOIS privacy pools even further from an SEO perspective, as opting out will bare your true details to the world (unless of course you already have SEO friendly privacy solutions in place ;)

Even just in the world of domains the GDPR will have far reaching consequences. Many believe it is just an issue for EU countries but most companies nowadays are global and will without doubt have dealings with a European entity at some point. As such they will also be held to the same changes.

IMO the whole policy is impossible to implement due to it's poorly thought out practicalities. It is however a cash cow as most companies are wholly unprepared for the change.

Fun times...lol
 
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why denigrate sloths thusly? ICANN gazes on at the sloths as they speed by.
 
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This new whois limited access is not business as usual, and in order to verify historical data to verify ownership for due diligence will require special access permission. There will a lot of questions soon.

Regarding GDPR, I am listening to one of several meetings in ICANN mp3’s of the Puerto Rico Meeting, in process. May 25, appears fast approaching and it appears the general public access to domain details will really be limited. The good news perhaps will be less spam. Domain tools, domain iq etc and all current tools not sure if they will have licensing to thick whois, or they will be filtering the data on a need to know know basis or be sub regulators of new rules compliance.

The way I am hearing all comments You as a domainer will be highly restricted from whois data, so unless you are Law enforcement or a trademark lawyer to qualify and get “thick” whois access and qualify to review domain ownership.

Seems like a business opportunity for lawyers to sell this pre sale ownership data check, but not sure about legal restrictions are in their divulgence of the data to 3rd parties. It was stated Law enforcement queries will be masked and no IP address being logged as a query to maintain confidentiality of ongoing investigations.
 
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