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Pryda said:

i did but i wanted to keep my comment short. im from Germany and im a computer engineer.. i got very good inside of companies and their domain needs. and again: english keywords with .DE extension arent worth anything to the germans... its you guys who're thinking it's worth money.. not the Germans...

and to the comment above mine.. we definately dont type english keywords into search engines to find a porduct.. maybe int. words like notebook etc... but for clothing and anything else we use the german word. if u check sedos recently sold rss feed ull see that there are a lot of German keywords being sold in .de .eu and the gtlds but not <english-keyword>.de ...

if u check the whois entries of english-keyword .DE domains ull see that the owners arent German...

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I totally agree as well. I am astonished by this particular buyer's spending spree.

While of course it is great for the sellers, I do think buyer is making a huge mistake and is investing thousands of dollars that will not be returned.

Maybe the buyer (or buyers) is taking a long-term bet on the trend for English to become , more and more, a commonly used language?

For everybody commenting on the buyer and the "mistakes" he's making, I'm sure they're doing it for a reason, a reason none of us might ever find out. They have some very nice domains.

He is definitely doing it for a reason. If it was obvious then I am sure everyone will be doing it.
But he has resold some of my domains I can tell because I revisit some of my old urls and check whois. Off course is going to be worthless to Germans but for a business is different I know because I have sold a few to some businesses not a lot but still sold. I have also lived in Germany but to understand the basic fundamentals and the power of redirects you need to think beyond the obvious. anyway as long as he buying I don't think the sellers on Bido care.

yes, they have many excelent premium english domain names.

but then again, they have something like deutscheweb . com

these type of domains show me again that there is some misunderstanding of the german market.

well yes, unless they have some magical plan we will never find out.... lets see

The only thing I find a little strange is he seems to be buying almost anything .de and I don't get the hyphens and domains like zip-codes.de. but we will see.

Well .... I lost a 2K bid. I don't know why BiDo would do this.
BiDo reset my auction to 30 days instead of the normal period
of 4 days. I'm sure this has upset the buyer and the 2K
($2,000.00) bid was retracted. :td:


I hope someone on the BiDo staff will contact the bidder and explain
to him/her that I did not extend the auction for 30 days. Basically
I hope you apologize to the bidder for this.

NN

namenut said:

Well .... I lost a 2K bid. I don't know why BiDo would do this.
BiDo reset my auction to 30 days instead of the normal period
of 4 days. I'm sure this has upset the buyer and the 2K
($2,000.00) bid was retracted. :td:


I hope someone on the BiDo staff will contact the bidder and explain
to him/her that I did not extend the auction for 30 days. Basically
I hope you apologize to the bidder for this.

NN

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I had one of those myself and see that sometimes. Where an auction is supposed to end, then gets extended. One I had going, had a couple of bids that were way below what I wanted and it was extended thru September 30th.

On a side note tho, I've noticed some recent ones getting in more quickly now. Within a couple of weeks. And a month or so ago, I could only submit 3 at a time per day. Now it's back up to 8.

GiftedDomains said:

well yes, unless they have some magical plan we will never find out.... lets see

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then again.. for me the kinkiest thing is not exactly english keywords with .de tails (after all there are thousnds of .cc, .co and others everywhere and nobody complains).
but what i dont get is why buy them on auction at $38 while you can get the whole bunch way much cheaper (dont forget to factor in bulk discounts) by compiling word dictionary and registering directly thru any registrar in the world.. faster, cheaper.. sure when it comes to premium one-word names you can always fall back to auction and private deals..

what you all think? i missed smth?

I'm wondering if the almighty "G" is giving the .DE extension some favor (Or possibly people are just thinking that) considering how many registrations there are compared to .COM etc ...

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:.de/
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:.com/

Whether I'm logged in to "G" or not - I still see plenty of english results looking through the .de results. Obviously if you have a preferred language (UserLocale) set on your PC/browser most any site/engine will know this ... but it makes me wonder still.

somehow i can't rest until i find out whats goin on with this weird .de english game here lol

one thing is clear:
they can forget german market. nobody in germany buys them.

so i was thinking what might be other plans.

in addition to the idea that they would wanne use .de as an alternative to gTLDs and see what happens, another idea could be that they would wanne "misuse" .de as acronym for something.

let say local market in Delaware.
probably nobody there knows that .de is the extension of germany.
but they would probably accept DE for DELAWARE?

by owning each and every english keyword with .de, this could be a relative cheap alternative to buying a new TLD for $185000 (if they had a similar idea anyway) lol

but still the question remains: doesn anybody know how google.COM treats english words with .de extension + in other countries? i can't imagine that their algorithm would like this!

Hmm very good points. I think no one will ever know why he is buying them for "sure". I emailed him myself to ask if he is building some sort of directory or how many more he intends to buy. Had no reply but I had a reply months back saying the domains will be used as re-directs. Another good point is why he is not registering the domains himself the only explanation I can think of is perhaps he does not have the time to be researching domains he has been an active buyer on Bido for months. Seems to have unlimited funds.lol although there was a time when he bought quite a lot of .de domains and Bido had to chase for funds. He must have some plan he seems like an experienced domainer I am also dying to know what the plan is. Its clear domainers are not interested in english .de , Studying his buying trends you will notice he is buying alot of "product related domains" This could be for a huge directory he is planing to develop or some sort of massive online store which will explain why he is investing in all these keywords. One thing I know for sure is he is well experienced. de is also only second to .com in terms of domain registrations. There must be some sort of market out there which we don't know about.

Anyway

well i dont see why .de is by any means better or worse than .cc, .co or .im. average user outside domaining community probably doesnt even bother to notice which extension the link he is clicking in google results has. he is clicking the link title not URL i suppose. and it wouldnt surprise me much if at some point in the nearest future google would even drop URLs leaving only titles and description in place. from this point playing seacrh words game with .de is as rational as with any other extension. it doesnt even have to be delaware or something - users would not care about .de more than they care about .co (which only domainers brains can automatically map to Company but in fact is just Columbia ccTLD - is Columbia or Coconut islands more attractive to the public than Germany?).
So .. as long as someville-super-injury-cloud-lawyer-and-cheapest-hosting.de works as good as the same in .cc or .com from google search result ranking point of view, i dont see why .de buyers should be looking dumb compared to us buying those .biz/.cc/.im/etc.. and after redirection user could always bookmark nice abc.com which is where .de link resolves to.

What is keeping me lost is why buy at $30 premium on auction. No time reason doesnt satisfy me - people have enough time to manually check every now and then hundreds of .de bido entries but dont have time to order bulk dictionary scan/registering or hire 10-20 people paying $1 per found avail .de name within specified category and exact search range and CPC limits? Take a closer look - they dont buy every name even in specific product niche they are active in judging from past buys. Which means they are analyzing the names individually. Time consuming, no? No less than hand picking and not paying $30 on the top of registrar fee.. strange indeed

to keep it short..
the difference between .co .im .me .cc .in etc.. is that they're internationalized since they don't have a real own internet market/usage back home. if u look at Germany on the other hand, they've got a huge internet market and not just commercially but also official (school, gov, medical, etc..)... just like the UK with their co.uk, holland with .nl france with .fr and some others....

If the .de buyer is a domainer, maybe he is a member here? It would be very interesting to hear what his strategy is!

4pm well said. But last year I hand regged hundreds of keywords in .de Trust me the extension is flooded with english domains. I don't know for sure why he is buying them To be honest I don't think I will be happy to get paid $1 per domain found as these keywords as not easy to find. I be happy with $10 though but you are right if I was him I did register them myself. Or use the free google keyword tool to generate a list of keywords and register the ones available. But hey who are we to question his business plan, even if he was on here I don't think he will let out his secrets or business plan will you? I have emailed him no about this before no reply. Maybe bido can share some light.lol

Only way to find out is to keep track of some of the domains he is buying and see where they end.

Anyway

Pryda said:

the difference between .co .im .me .cc .in etc.. is that they're internationalized since they don't have a real own internet market/usage back home.

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Thats quite true but only for German internet users - they (just as we are here in Russia with our .ru) can/do see the diffrence, even more - it probably makes crucial difference to them if it's .de or .cc.
But i was talking of US/English speaking countries - i need US natives help here - do you feel (try not to be a domainer for a moment) any difference from language/cultural/whatever point when you are presented with .cc vs .de domain (and most of the time you see quite long messy URL in google results where extension is buried somewhere in the middle of slashes/keywords/=/?/http/etc) ?
i doubt it. so the point is as long as you are not .de or .ru or .co.uk citizen your eyes and brain would probably treat all non-com/net just the same way (providing that you paid attention at all) - no preferences, no prejudice, just some funny letters meaning nothing.
put simply i suspect insurancequotes.de vs insurancequotes.cc makes zero difference in terms of click-thru ratio for US market. which is what is definately being targeted by the buyer - as you pointed <english keyword> + .de makes no sense for German web ..
if so collecting blahblah.de is as smart as picking blahblah.cc/co/in/etc which doesnt shock us, right?
i also dont see any reason for google to rank .de differently (in non-de geographics) than other cctlds. even more - there's no indications that google takes tld into account for ranking purposes as long as site language is explicitly english.

but what the hell is the use of buying them on bido for $38 - thats where i give up... lets hope richface and GiftedDomains will uncover soon..

Am glad you are back Bido

BIDO won't send me my proceeds from a sale because they now require accounts to be a min of $40. What a joke. I tried contacting support but I'm given errors: http://support.bido.com/ Plus I've accelerated 4 domains a few days ago and they're still just sitting there. Annoying

Just add funds to make up the $40 and redraw ) A few days ago I saw someone selling 146 .de domains with a Bido Price of around $6,000 is the person a member on here? Just want to know why they registered so many at once?

Hi, I just started at Bido and bought the 2220 voting points. Do I lose these one week after I get them? I read that the available votes expire every week.

There really is no point/sense in BIDO voting points. The vast majority of domains they sell are Accelerated and the ones voted in aren't auctioned for months after added. And those that sell might profit you 3 cents.

interestedenough said:

Hi, I just started at Bido and bought the 2220 voting points. Do I lose these one week after I get them? I read that the available votes expire every week.

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Arch, The thing is that 1 credit = $8.80 to accelerate a domain. That means that this service is way more expensive than ebay. It doesn't make sense than they charge almost 25% the price of domains just to list them there with. This might be even hurting them in the way of traffic.

When it all boils down, most of their sales are only $38. Accelerating auctions isn't a good idea. And getting them vote in is an even worse idea: You'll have to wait months just for your auction to go live & end unsold. I was happy when BIDO came back but this new incarnation isn't anything worth cheering for.

interestedenough said:

Arch, The thing is that 1 credit = $8.80 to accelerate a domain. That means that this service is way more expensive than ebay. It doesn't make sense than they charge almost 25% the price of domains just to list them there with. This might be even hurting them in the way of traffic.

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Sadly I have to agree Big fan when they first appeared and sad when it closed. I have tried to sell a couple of names there now it has come back but the buyers are just not there. Great guys and good ideas just not sure how they are gonna progress to make it work ...