Ask a Moderator Anything (Publicly)

[Bravo Mod Team]

Per member request, we've created this public thread.

Please feel free to ask us anything, and we'll try to answer as best as we can.

We look forward to answering your questions.

You may also contact us privately through our support sections:

• https://www.namepros.com/support/

 

[Echo Mod Team]

I would like to know how much money the forum admins get from godaddy per month for censorship.

Hello,

Godaddy is not affiliated with NamePros, nor do they pay NamePros for any services that we are aware of.

After reviewing your screenshot, we can see that you had some posts removed for being off-topic, so we looked into it further and found the following:

Your post(s) were reported by a concerned member for taking the Afternic (a Marketplace service) related review thread off-topic and changing the topic to be about Godaddy (a Registrar service). It seems that a 3rd report was for a post in violation of rule 1.5, taking the discussion even further off-topic.

At the end of the day, a moderator teams job is to enforce the rules equally, for all members, without playing any favorites, regardless of their status.

If your posts were on-topic about the Afternic marketplace, they probably wouldn't have been reported by members to be reviewed in the first place. Since they were reported, reviewed, and found to violate the rules that you and other members agreed to, they were removed. You simply received an alert about the removal to help remind you of those rules for the first 2 violations. However, the 3rd violation has now resulted in an official warning to your account.

Moving forward, please try to keep threads on-topic.

Thanks.

For internal use ONLY: https://www.namepros.com/reports/120998/
For internal use ONLY: https://www.namepros.com/reports/121004/
For internal use ONLY: https://www.namepros.com/reports/121006/

 

[kor]

After reviewing your screenshot, we can see that you had some posts removed for being off-topic, so we looked into it further and found the following:

Claiming that godaddy and afternic related posts about afternic, a godaddy brand, are off-topic is proof that you are brainless and that you get a lot of money from this tyrannical company.

Please keep crying that rules are rules even when the whole forum is inaccessible.

 

[bmugford]

Hello,

Godaddy is not affiliated with NamePros, nor do they pay NamePros for any services that we are aware of.

After reviewing your screenshot, we can see that you had some posts removed for being off-topic, so we looked into it further and found the following:

Your post(s) were reported by a concerned member for taking the Afternic (a Marketplace service) related review thread off-topic and changing the topic to be about Godaddy (a Registrar service). It seems that a 3rd report was for a post in violation of rule 1.5, taking the discussion even further off-topic.

At the end of the day, a moderator teams job is to enforce the rules equally, for all members, without playing any favorites, regardless of their status.

If your posts were on-topic about the Afternic marketplace, they probably wouldn't have been reported by members to be reviewed in the first place. Since they were reported, reviewed, and found to violate the rules that you and other members agreed to, they were removed. You simply received an alert about the removal to help remind you of those rules for the first 2 violations. However, the 3rd violation has now resulted in an official warning to your account.

Moving forward, please try to keep threads on-topic.

Thanks.

For internal use ONLY: https://www.namepros.com/reports/120998/
For internal use ONLY: https://www.namepros.com/reports/121004/
For internal use ONLY: https://www.namepros.com/reports/121006/

Without seeing the posts, it is hard to judge.

However, there is clearly a strong relationship between Afternic / GoDaddy / Dan.

There is a lot of overlap between the services offered.

Brad

 

[Echo Mod Team]

Without seeing the posts, it is hard to judge.

However, there is clearly a strong relationship between Afternic / GoDaddy / Dan.

There is a lot of overlap between the services offered.

Brad

There can be a fine line sometimes, agreed.

Please keep in mind that each review thread (Godaddy, Afternic, Dan, etc.) has their own separate topics being reviewed and each service generally has a dedicated support team that only handles support inquiries for their assigned company/sub-brand.

It's important to try and keep threads on-topic, without all the overlapping (Especially dealing with different service brands), otherwise it gets confusing for readers/members and the thread slips into a completely different topic than it originated.

 

[Paul]

Godaddy is not affiliated with NamePros, nor do they pay NamePros for any services that we are aware of.

Correction: I believe they are or were an advertiser, but advertisers don’t receive special treatment when it comes to moderation. We’ve had no qualms about cutting ties with advertisers who pushed that line in the past.

Claiming that godaddy and afternic related posts about afternic, a godaddy brand, are off-topic is proof that you are brainless and that you get a lot of money from this tyrannical company.

If you get angry and start making personal insults, generally, your content is going to be removed even if it’s on topic. You’re expected to follow the same rules as everyone else.

 

[Daniel Owens]

While the chat thread is decent I am wondering do admins have any plans to improve chat and make it more of a room than a thread? Is a new chat design in the works?

 

[Paul]

While the chat thread is decent I am wondering do admins have any plans to improve chat and make it more of a room than a thread?

Yes, and we made significant progress developing it, but we had to place it on hold because it was sapping too many developer resources. It's hard to build a web-based chat platform that scales to our size: we're just large enough that most traditional solutions used on other forums don't work well, but we're not big enough that we can just throw money at the problem until it sorts itself out.

I'd like to see chat return at some point; I've always preferred live chat, but we have to prioritize. The old chat system was on life support and was eating up something like 75% of our bandwidth even with optimizations.

 

[Paul]

Look at my poll!
Only one person is happy with anonymous downvoting toxic shills

That one person is still a human with feelings. Part of the job of a moderation team--or any oversight body--is to protect the minority from the majority. Several people have expressed concern about their votes suddenly becoming public, and those concerns are both understandable and justified, regardless of what we've stated our plans are.

For that problem, you may be able to keep the old data anonymized as it is now (without de-anonymizing), while only offering de-anonymized options from a certain date in the future.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's ultimately the solution, but we're still discussing the best way forward (and are open to suggestions). Blanket deanonymization has an obvious drawback.

I also don't like giving people the false impression that anything they post online is truly anonymous. We might have a good security track record so far, but will that still be the case in a decade or two? I'd be remiss if I suggested that NamePros is invincible.

How about removing them and discounting them from the totals? Might that be an option? Is it even possible?

I don't think we'd want to do that, and suspect most of the community wouldn't be on board with that plan, but it's possible.

 

[Daniel Owens]

I don't think we'd want to do that, and suspect most of the community wouldn't be on board with that plan, but it's possible.

The best option would be agree and disagree. Instead down & up votes. It would be a good way to express opinion. The thanks, should remain their in my opinion as it is nice.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Sooo, I just went to check some of my old posts and found I can only go back 10 pages.

Thanks for bring to attention 11 days ago that we, you and me, maybe others, cant see past last 10 pages.

I can barely remember what happened yesterday so need a memory jog from the old posts sometimes.

Same here. If you can remember a word you said in a post you can still search it. They're still there somewhere..

This has been fixed.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

When will our signatures be shown on mobile phones in portrait mode?

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@Paul

This is on our to-do list. We'll ask if it can be expedited a bit.

 

[Samer]

@Bravo Mod Team,
you replied to five people.

You did not acknowledge me. My feelings are hurt.

 

[bigdomainer]

This is an interesting thread. I'm glad I found it. I do have one question. When I have clicked on the "Watch" button for a particular thread, is there a certain length of time or certain number of posts after which I no longer get notifications? I have found new posts in several of the threads I am 'watching' and never got a notification.

Here is one example:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/do...tions-newsletter.1198985/page-39#post-8971770

 

[kor]

Godaddy is not affiliated with NamePros, nor do they pay NamePros for any services that we are aware of.

Correction: I believe they are or were an advertiser, but advertisers don’t receive special treatment when it comes to moderation.

I got my answer.

Thank you.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

@Paul i see i can only go back 10 pages of posts still. Is it cause I am on mobile
What happened at bottom of each page shows 1 …. 5. Next
Very mobile unfriendly site now
panoramic mode i can see 1 2 3 etc
What is with the font now so mobile unfriendly.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

See how pages display on my old iphone13

 

[Paul]

@Paul i see i can only go back 10 pages of posts still.

We can't count the total number of pages--that becomes untenable once you have a lot of search results, which is why search engines usually don't show the number of pages or a precise number of results. We count up to 10, then stop. If we max out 10 pages, then we show a "Show older results" button at the bottom of page 10. You can still go beyond page 10 by clicking that button. This works a little differently from pagination and is a lot more efficient.

tl;dr: When using the search engine, you can view beyond page 10, but you have to manually go to the last page and click the special button to view older results.

This only applies to faceted search results, such as those returned by the "Search" feature. Anything that goes directly to SQL doesn't have this limitation and will show a precise page count, with the caveat that there's no way to search or filter the results.

What happened at bottom of each page shows 1 …. 5. Next

It depends on your viewport size. If we can't fit all the page numbers, they get collapsed. You can tap the ellipsis to manually enter a page number.

 

[cooljub]

i can only go back 10 pages of posts still. Is it cause I am on mobile

I'm on a laptop but I just put Firefox into mobile view, and on the 10th page of my content a button appears saying "Show older results". When I click on that the pages of older content show, with the numbering starting at 1-10 again.. but it is the older content.

Edit: I hadn't seen that Paul had already replied.

 

[Alop]

Is it true that NP will create an app with a duel arena ?

 

[Peter45]

That one person is still a human with feelings. Part of the job of a moderation team--or any oversight body--is to protect the minority from the majority.

That sound so hypocrite

Anonymous downvoting isn't about the content of a posting, it's rather about the attitude behind that posting.

Disagreeing with an opinion without saying why, is pointless. Useless. Everybody knows it.
Repeatedly telling you that I disagree with you without telling you why, so that you have no idea why I disagree, that's called trolling.

The target of anonymous voting is mostly not the content of a posting but the character of the poster.
That's why anonymous voting is so toxic within a community.
That's why is very rational to feel touched and to react when one is the target of anonymous downvoting. Only a moron wouldn't care about people saying that he is a troll within the community he's trying to interact with.


What you say is a truckload of hypocrisy because while you are "protecting the feelings of the minority against the majority" - how wonderful - you are allowing members to be crushed, psychologically massacred.

Could it depend on the fact that that "minority" is composed of heavyweight members? while those who suffer from anonymous downvoting are mostly newcomers and members with a low impact score?

While you have been so generously protecting the feelings of those who want to keep their downvoting nicknames a secret how about a little protection for the feelings of members like Quad domains?

 

[Paul]

The biggest argument against anonymization is that it hinders transparency--and without transparency, there's nothing to combat misinformation. How are people expected to make informed decisions and understand the opinions of others if all they see is an aggregate number? Emotions will run higher than they ought to, people will feel more hurt than necessary, and catastrophizing will be commonplace. That's already a bit of an issue now, and I don't expect it to get better until vote data is public.

That being said, I maintain that suddenly deanonymizing everything would be a slap in the face to quite a few people. We've always said it would happen eventually, and that's still the case, but we're still looking for better solutions that offer more of a compromise.

 

[Peter45]

The biggest argument against anonymization is that it hinders transparency-

No. The biggest argument against anonymisation is that it allows people to avoid taking responsibility for their actions.

and without transparency, there's nothing to combat misinformation.

Who cares about misinformation.
You have completely missed the point.

Again,

Anonymous downvoting isn't about the content of a posting, it's rather about the attitude behind that posting.

The target of anonymous voting is not the content of a posting but the character of the poster.

This discussion is neither about transparency nor misinformation. It's about
a) people getting morally destroyed;
b) people fearing to land in the crosshair of the downvoting trolls.

While you are so focused on metaphysical principles like transparency and misinformation you are allowing people to suffer

 

[Peter45]

This guy opened a thread with ca 20 replies.
They massacred him

What did he wrong?
What are those trolls disagreeing with?

It's a miracle if he will keep posting.
Those low impact score members who watch this, they'll think twice before they post something, and if they do, they'll be very careful to avoid posting anything which in their view could be considered questionable.

This is death for a discussion community

I maintain that suddenly deanonymizing everything would be a slap in the face to quite a few people.

Fair enough but be honest and call things for what they are
Those "people" are Gold accounts and Vip members, whose "feelings" are more important than those of members like @QUAD DOMAINS or @Domain noob.

 

[kor]

Downvoting options should be disabled.

 

[bmugford]

I believe in positive thoughts and emotions.
If you want to be a toxic anonymous tool; NP shouldnt enable you with anonymous cloak.

Begs the question; and my favorite debate; “Remove all negative actions?” No. But put your name to it.

Yeah, I feel the same way. I have less of a problem with people being toxic than doing it anonymously.

People can leave a dislike, disagree, or comment.

Brad