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It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

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Brad seems to believe that if you admit to owing someone money, then you are under an obligation to pay it immediately upon demand. There is a difference between me saying “I owe Brad ten dollars” and saying “I am obligated to pay Brad what I owe him by the end of this week.”

So, sure, I may owe Brad ten dollars. But if the reason I owe Brad ten dollars and can’t pay him is because my friend, Rube Munster lied to Brad and stole my money, then I’m going to use the lawsuit that Brad filed as a vehicle to cross claim against Munster as the person responsible for my liability to Brad.
I am not really sure where you are getting that from.

My comment was simply related to what a "win" for Epik would even mean.

Take away any of the claims of wrongdoing, they still owe the money according to their own response.

What is a "win" for them? Still owing the money and likely legal fees.

Sure, a loss could be a much worse outcome, but a "win" doesn't seem that amazing either.

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In other words, if they admit they owe him the money, then you certainly can’t accuse them of stealing it. It’s his money. They just haven’t paid him back yet.
I suspect this will end in some settlement, but if there is ever a verdict reached I guess we can see if taking a $327,000 payment in May 2022 and not delivering the domain or a refund for a year is considered stealing or not.

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More importantly, the money owed is NOT supposed to be owed. There is no reason for it to be owed.

Adkisson's money was meant to be held in escrow, a service which Epik claimed to run at the time.

Adkisson made the decision to use Epik Escrow based on that representation.

Epik failed to deliver the domain name. Epik failed to return money they previously claimed to be in Escrow.

Excuses made by Epik of theft by a former employee does not absolve them of their responsibilities as an escrow.

Epik failed. I'd say logic places the responsibility for that failure squarely on Epik.

Claims of theft by a former employee is a matter for Epik and their insurance company.
 
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More importantly, the money owed is NOT supposed to be owed. There is no reason for it to be owed.

Adkisson's money was meant to be held in escrow, a service which Epik claimed to run at the time.
Yes, people like @Kathleen Kalaf and others were turned into involuntary creditors via Epik's unlicensed escrow services. They never agreed to be owed money.

That transaction happened after @Rob Monster was replaced as CEO. Brian Royce was supposedly in charge then.

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Excuses made by Epik of theft by a former employee does not absolve them of their responsibilities as an escrow.

Epik failed. I'd say logic places the responsibility for that failure squarely on Epik.

Claims of theft by a former employee is a matter for Epik and their insurance company.
If Epik has a claim against @Rob Monster or others then great.

However, like you said Epik is still responsible for this money. Epik services were used.

Even if you take away the claims of wrongdoing, they still owe the money according to their own response.

The same is true with @Kathleen Kalaf.

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So, sure, I may owe Brad ten dollars. But if the reason I owe Brad ten dollars and can’t pay him is because my friend, Rube Munster lied to Brad and stole my money, then I’m going to use the lawsuit that Brad filed as a vehicle to cross claim against Munster as the person responsible for my liability to Brad.
On a side note, I am not sure how a cross claim against Rube Munster would work when they are still the Chairman, governor, and majority shareholder of the company.

That is kind of an odd situation.

You would assume that Rube Munster would not agree to this action, so on what authority could the company act without the Chairman, governor, or majority shareholder on board?

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I suspect this will end in some settlement, but if there is ever a verdict reached I guess we can see if taking a $327,000 payment in May 2022 and not delivering the domain or a refund for a year is considered stealing or not.

We should all live so long, In sha'Allah.
 
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However, like you said Epik is still responsible for this money. Epik services were used.

Yes, that's what they admit, which was the point of explaining what is, and is not, in their pleadings. Obviously, there are some people who are not bright enough to understand the difference between pointing out what they are claiming in the suit, versus whether or not they are going to win that argument, as demonstrated several posts previous to this one. They are virtually certain to lose if it comes to that.

But even if this were to miraculously go to trial, or even a default, a year and a half or two from now, they would have managed to kick the can down the road that long. Even then, obtaining a judgment and collecting it are two different things. Take, for example, Alex Jones - a hero of Brian Royce and his ilk here at Namepros. He has a huge judgment against him and hasn't paid a dime to the families against whom he inflamed and unleashed his idiot followers.
 
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Brian might be using Ai to write his posts. Ai created content adds double space between words

Definitive proof that AI is evil :)
 
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Why is Rob Monster a PRO member?
 
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Brian might be using Ai to write his posts. Ai created content adds double space between words

That is ad verbatim what Rob would write. Rob was adamant about not leaving money on the table. And, of course, Rob wouldn't be Rob if he had customer's interest in mind. It basically meant "let us handle your sales and negotiations for you, use our landers and let us take over". Just another sign that they are working together.
 
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I used my $1000 in Masterbucks for domain renews and transfers. Most of those were processed in a week or two in December 2022. I did in advance to avoid domains to expire, and they were renewed. I'll transfer out all this month. Hopefully they are not stopping transfer outs.
 
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I used my $1000 in Masterbucks for domain renews and transfers. Most of those were processed in a week or two in December 2022. I did in advance to avoid domains to expire, and they were renewed. I'll transfer out all this month. Hopefully they are not stopping transfer outs.
You have to get the auth codes for the domains individually and some people have said that you need 2FA activated in order to see the auth codes -- should have it activated anyway -- considering Epik's "security" history.

Yes, transfer's out still work thankfully.
 
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I am still praying, for all victims (including myself). I pray for divine guidance, and for divine intervention. I do believe in the power of prayer. I pray that all victims get paid, and that the powers that be do the right thing for all of these people who desperately need their funds.

Yesterday, I was reminded of a story from early in my career. I was in my early 30's and was working for Mobil Oil in Sales. I absolutely loved my job, but worked for a horrible manager who treated his direct reports very badly. He was extremely critical, condescending, degrading and he would attempt to strip his people of all of their value. This person had no compassion. (He was actually worse than Brian Royce). I took him to HR numerous times. One of my colleagues wrote him up as being the worst manager she had ever worked for, at the time of her resignation. I remember she told me her teeth would clench when she got on the phone with him, and she began having dental problems. It was a very long 4 years for me, and he ruined many careers including mine eventually.

One time he was scheduled to come out to travel with me, when I was living in Cincinnati (just up the hill from P&G HQ). Oh my gosh I was dreading it, and I was praying about it right up until the moment that his plane arrived from Chicago. I was waiting at his gate, and watched as every person got off the plane and he never got off. My system went into high alert--oh my God, did I miss him? That would have been grounds for punishment. I went up to the counter and asked if he was on the plane and was told yes, he had boarded. I searched the airport in a panic. I went to the pay phone to check my voicemail (long before everyone carried cell phones). No messages, nothing. After half an hour, I decided to go home, fearful that I had left him there and the ultimate punishment would be coming.

Two or three hours later, I got a call from him at home. He explained that he had gotten on the wrong plane. When he went to board, there were two planes, and he walked into the wrong door, and he flew to Albany! Then he had to buy a ticket back home to Chicago, because it was his error. Oh I celebrated! Small example of divine intervention but a very cool one. :)

I left that job eventually, moved to higher ground. He was later removed from leadership altogether, and went to work for a competitor. A few years later, he called me. He was working for someone in leadership that was treating him badly, and he said that he now realized how he had treated me. He asked me how I survived working for him, and asked me for advice on how to survive his current manager. Did I help him? I did. My family couldn't believe that I spoke to him. I guess I had forgiven this person. I didn't forgive him for him--I did it for myself. Because holding onto all of that anger and resentment did me no good. I moved to higher ground.

Sadly, a few years later, his 21 year old son died suddenly. He died of an undiagnosed heart defect.

True story.
 
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Adkisson is claiming Epik stole his money. Epik is admitting they owe him the money and that they intend him to be repaid. So, there’s a huge difference between stealing someone’s money and having a difference of opinion on the terms under which you are obligated to pay it back.
Being cynical about this, was Monster's partial repayment an attempt to reframe the situation as being a business debt and with the payment being a demonstration Monster's/Epik's "good faith"? Could the Royce letter acknowledging @Kathleen Kalaf 's $91K as a debt be part of the same strategy to present the non-payments as being the result of Epik's wider trading difficulties?

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Because he met the requirements at the time. But I'm not sure NP updates these things very often.


Transfers out are working fine.
PRO members have to be sincere. Was Rob Monster sincere when he was the CEO of Epik?
 
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PRO members have to be sincere. Was Rob Monster sincere when he was the CEO of Epik?
Because he met the requirements at the time. But I'm not sure NP updates these things very often.
There is no doubt that @Rob Monster should lose his PRO badge.

He is still the Chairman, governor, and majority shareholder of Epik. While this debacle has been going on he has not made one statement on NamePros, or anywhere else publicly in 8+ months.

He has been completely ignoring what is going on while customers deal with the fallout. That is not the behavior of a "professional".

Additionally all the "Epik" staff badges should be removed. It is not clear if any of them even still work at Epik, or if many even did to start with. Regardless, no member is speaking for Epik and therefore there should be no Epik "staff" badges.

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There is no doubt that @Rob Monster should lose his PRO badge.

He is still the Chairman, governor, and majority shareholder of Epik. While this debacle has been going on he has not made one statement on NamePros, or anywhere else publicly in 8+ months.

He has been completely ignoring what is going on while customers deal with the fallout. That is not the behavior of a "professional".

Additionally all the "Epik" staff badges should be removed. It is not clear if any of them even still work at Epik, or if many even did to start with. Regardless, no member is speaking for Epik and therefore there should be no Epik "staff" badges.

Brad

the communication and process was far from Epik.
 
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There is no doubt that @Rob Monster should lose his PRO badge.

He is still the Chairman, governor, and majority shareholder of Epik. While this debacle has been going on he has not made one statement on NamePros, or anywhere else publicly in 8+ months.

He has been completely ignoring what is going on while customers deal with the fallout. That is not the behavior of a "professional".

Additionally all the "Epik" staff badges should be removed. It is not clear if any of them even still work at Epik, or if many even did to start with. Regardless, no member is speaking for Epik and therefore there should be no Epik "staff" badges.

Brad
@Bravo Mod Team @Echo Mod Team

Why don't you guys go ahead and handle that today, people have been asking about this for awhile, with no action on your part. It's not a good look for @NamePros to label somebody a Pro that's involved with what's being posted in this thread.
 
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@Bravo Mod Team @Echo Mod Team

Why don't you guys go ahead and handle that today, people have been asking about this for awhile, with no action on your part. It's not a good look for @NamePros to label somebody a Pro that's involved with what's being posted in this thread.

After they strip him from his badges they may as well ban him.

He's has enough opportunity to defend and/or explain his actions by now.

People are shown the door for way less damaging shenanigans.
 
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