news Dan.com to increase comission from 9% to 15% effective Feb 1st 2023

[MadAboutDomains]

Just received this email from Dan.com about commission increases (snippet of email):

Thoughts?

 

[James Iles]

Hi everyone, I wanted to take a moment to say thanks to everyone for their feedback and views. As the community manager, I truly appreciate it and I'll be sharing all feedback with the GoDaddy team. The difference of opinion just shows the number of different business models people have. My recommendation would be do what's best for you and your portfolio.


As I've said before, I'm here to answer questions and am happy to chat privately via DM, or via email: [email protected].

 

[Future Sensors]

Hi @James Iles

I notice that the bolded part below still leads to confusion among domainers on this forum and on Twitter, despite your explanation earlier in this thread.

"15% of sales price for domains sold pointed to nameservers at Afternic, Dan, or Uniregistry Market; regardless of where it sells on the network or through landers directly."

Perhaps an additional clarification by email is needed, that when a domain sells through an Afternic Premium Partner (the extended network), and nameservers point to any of Afternic/Dan/etc NS, the commission is also 15% not 25%.

 

[bmugford]

Hi everyone, I wanted to take a moment to say thanks to everyone for their feedback and views. As the community manager, I truly appreciate it and I'll be sharing all feedback with the GoDaddy team. The difference of opinion just shows the number of different business models people have. My recommendation would be do what's best for you and your portfolio.


As I've said before, I'm here to answer questions and am happy to chat privately via DM, or via email: [email protected].

Well, from the pricing breakdown it appears only one scenario has lower fees - Afternic sales under $5,000.

Basically every other situation the commissions have gone up, so it is not really a business model thing.

The fees are basically higher almost across the board.

Then on top of that you have the 25% fee for not using GoDaddy landers which is clearly intended to stifle competition.

Brad

 

[twiki]

Most people unbelievably do not check the landing page. I have every name listed at Dan 10% lower than at Afternic, and the landing pages are all Dan. You'd think that I'd sell more names through Dan. Nope. I sell 80-90% of the names at Afternic. There is power to their netowrk and to people simply trying to register a name and seeing the "premium name" price and buying there. I cannot think of any other reason for this. This information is a huge factor in my decision to keep my names at Afternic.

After doing this check over and over again I have to agree.

Lander is secondary for me.

I've also measured the valid traffic, and it is ridiculously low.

But for some, it works. Guess it depends on the domains.

 

[Dane]

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Hi everyone, I wanted to take a moment to say thanks to everyone for their feedback and views. As the community manager, I truly appreciate it and I'll be sharing all feedback with the GoDaddy team.

What exactly will you tell the GoDaddy team about all of this feedback? I'm genuinely interested to know. Thanks.

 

[tonyk2000]

GoDaddy acquired mediatemple (webhosting, so it was their competitor) and recently defacto "killed" it, or at least it is what customers are saying:

https://www.reddit.com/r/webhosting/comments/zgb01o

Godaddy acquired Uniregistry (registrar, so it was their competitor) and publicly announced that it will be transitioned into GD.

Godaddy acquired Neustar's registry business (not their competitor) and it works with no issues.

Since DAN was their competitor, one would question the future of the whole DAN platform in a long run...

 

[twiki]

Well, from the pricing breakdown it appears only one scenario has lower fees - Afternic sales under $5,000.

Basically every other situation the commissions have gone up, so it is not really a business model thing.

I'm one of the few doing good in this line. Most of my domains sold aren't above $5k.

 

[Ostrados]

BTW DAN also charges 21% VAT on EU seller like me
So old 9% at DAN was actually 10.9%
And now 15% at DAN will become 18.14%

Can @James Iles tell me why I should pay almost 19% commission to a landing page provider that takes my traffic and leads and has ZERO contribution to traffic on my domains?

And why should I stick with that provider and be penalized 25% if I chose better service?!!!

 

[twiki]

BTW DAN also charges 21% VAT on EU seller like me
So old 9% at DAN was actually 10.9%
And now 15% at DAN will become 18.14%

Can @James Iles tell me why I should pay almost 19% commission to a landing page provider that takes my traffic and leads has ZERO contribution to traffic on my domains?

And why should I stick with that provider and be penalized 25% if I chose better service?!!!

You can use another lander if you're not worried about 10% extra fees at Afternic.

 

[branding]

Then on top of that you have the 25% fee for not using GoDaddy landers which is clearly intended to stifle competition.

At 25% it's actually cheaper to close a sale at eBay lol.

 

[Ostrados]

You can use another lander if you're not worried about 10% extra fees at Afternic.

Actually I am doing the math right now on my excel
This is really a bad day lol

 

[bmugford]

At 25% it's actually cheaper to close a sale at eBay lol.

On many sales it would be cheaper to just fly there and take cash.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

I'm one of the few doing good in this line. Most of my domains sold aren't above $5k.

So are most of mine, but I am also thinking of others.

These changes are unjustified in my view as the commissions are going up, in many cases drastically, while they are bringing nothing extra to the table.

I am not a fan of just raising commissions while trying to stifle competition.
It is just lazy capitalism.

It is not like they can even point to any justification, other than they want to make more money and take a bigger piece of the pie.

Brad

 

[branding]

On many sales it would be cheaper to just fly there and take cash.

Brad

Good for the briefcase selling companies I suppose... Bad for co2 emission. Shame on you GoDaddy! You're destroying the planet

 

[Reallybigidea.com]

GoDaddy acquired mediatemple (webhosting, so it was their competitor) and recently defacto "killed" it, or at least it is what customers are saying:

https://www.reddit.com/r/webhosting/comments/zgb01o

Godaddy acquired Uniregistry (registrar, so it was their competitor) and publicly announced that it will be transitioned into GD.

Godaddy acquired Neustar's registry business (not their competitor) and it works with no issues.

Since DAN was their competitor, one would question the future of the whole DAN platform in a long run...

The next shoud be Epik..

 

[branding]

The next shoud be Epik

Don't think so. Too toxic. Too much bad blood between the two. They would rather burn them to the ground.

 

[bmugford]

Don't think so. Too toxic. Too much bad blood between the two. They would rather burn them to the ground.

GoDaddy won't touch Epik with a 1000 foot pole.

Brad

 

[branding]

GoDaddy won't touch Epik with a 1000 foot pole.

Brad

Unless that pole was on fire and Epik was drenched in gasoline

 

[DaaZ]

BTW DAN also charges 21% VAT on EU seller like me
So old 9% at DAN was actually 10.9%
And now 15% at DAN will become 18.14%

Can @James Iles tell me why I should pay almost 19% commission to a landing page provider that takes my traffic and leads and has ZERO contribution to traffic on my domains?

And why should I stick with that provider and be penalized 25% if I chose better service?!!!

Use DaaZ as an alternative option. DaaZ is an UK company.

 

[Lox]

Great question that I hadn't considered - but you won't get the discounted commission if you're not using one of the following nameservers:

• afternic.com
• smartname.com
• uniregistrymarket.link
• dan.com
• undeveloped.com
• internettraffic.com
• cashparking.com

Thank you!
25% is a sort of … modern feudalism.

Regards

 

[bmugford]

Use DaaZ as an alternative option. DaaZ is an UK company.

I will check it out.

I am not making any impulsive decisions but I am certainly going to consider my options going forward.

Even though it doesn't really effect me, the 25% thing pisses me off even more than the Dan commission.
It is just so blatantly anti-competition.

That is not something I saw coming.

Brad

 

[branding]

Use DaaZ as an alternative option. DaaZ is an UK company.

UK registered or UK located?

 

[Rhinnnn]

Well, from the pricing breakdown it appears only one scenario has lower fees - Afternic sales under $5,000.

I did the math based on the current tiered commissions and, in fact, things won't be that bad come February 1.

With the tiered commission, a $30,000 sale right now means a commission of exactly 15% paid to GoDaddy.

Everything below this price currently incurs a commission higher than 15% -- the lower the price, the higher the commission, percentage-wise (up to 20%, of course).

Everything above $30,000 is currently subject to commissions below 15% -- the higher the price, the lower the commission, percentage-wise.

So, overall, the new flat commission means more money for sellers for all sales under $30K... as long as nameservers are pointed at Afternic, DAN, Uni, etc.

What all this means is that GoDaddy's new position is: Point your nameservers to us or else get rekt if we make a sale for you.

 

[bmugford]

Everything above $30,000 is currently subject to commissions below 15% -- the higher the price, the lower the commission, percentage-wise.

So, overall, the new flat commission means more money for sellers for all sales under $30K... as long as nameservers are pointed at Afternic, DAN, Uni, etc.

What all this means is that GoDaddy's new position is: Point your nameservers to us or else get rekt if we make a sale for you.

Well, at Afternic.

It means 60% higher commissions at Dan.com, best case scenario.

Brad

 

[Rhinnnn]

Well, at Afternic.

It means 60% higher commissions at Dan.com, best case scenario.

Brad

True, my math's valid only for Afternic.

The DAN commission increase needs no math, it's simply more money out of sellers' pockets with each and every sale.