The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Silentptnr]

my only motivation is stop a government reform ... I don’t need to agree with Trump himself.... I only need to agree that Trump will not reform the US gov into a Socialist - communist gov ..... if I fight against that happening... a good presidential nominee will arise for 2024

Given more time, Trump will destroy you, your family, me, my family.

I must protect both you and me. You must not make that mistake. Trust me, vote for Biden. You will be so glad you did.

 

[mr-x]

Racist White Guy At Mother Jones Calls Tim Scott And Herschel Walker Uncle Toms

Remember that time when liberals got 'uncle tom' trending on twitter because Tim Scott said nice things about the President?

 

[.X.]

I know you feel that way, but what have you done for the all the years that Democrats held the office? Doesn''t seem socialist. The best thing that happened in many years was the ACA. That was not a Republican, that was a Democrat.

Now look at the deficit. Worse than Bush. Worst ever. Who's supposed to cover the deficit? While big corps were given tax breaks? Not right.

I feel it is more important to preserve our founded government as opposed to trying to fight all the corruption in Washington ... that can be dealt with as well one we have a solid nominee for president ... it is worth the wait to me as opposed to jumping in feet first when I know what the Democratic narrative and end agenda is ... I want my son to be able to prosper under America’s founded government, my grand kids ... it runs that deep with me

 

[Silentptnr]

I know one thing. Trump is absolute worst president (I strain to say president) that this country has ever seen. It is truly too much to list. He is a pathelogical liar, a cheater, a fraudster. And it pains me to describe the President that way, but it is true.

 

[Domainace]

The number of deaths in the United States through July 2020 is 8% to 12% higher than it would have been if the coronavirus pandemic had never happened. That’s at least 164,937 deaths above the number expected for the first seven months of the year https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...id-19-deaths-might-be-undercounted-2020-08-13
What a coincidence.

We are constantly being told that Covid-19 is much worse than the flu. Many times worse, in fact. So, one would expect proportionately more deaths. That's not a political issue, but a math issue.

From that same website: https://theconversation.com/why-cor...cant-be-summed-up-in-one-simple-number-135758
Article titled: "Why coronavirus death rates can’t be summed up in one simple number"

In comparing deaths, outbreak modeling typically focuses only on those deaths that result from the direct physiological effects of the pathogen. However, there are other deaths to consider, due to other effects of the virus and our interventions...

Prolonged social distancing has economic implications, as does an uncontrolled outbreak or a secondary outbreak that might occur if social distancing measures are lifted in the wrong circumstances. An economic downturn, including job losses, has far-reaching and sometimes surprising effects on health and survival.

Another important caveat is that the effects of our interventions, like all epidemiological numbers, also depend on population and place.

When comparing higher-income countries with lower-income countries, distributions of age and diseases and patterns of social interaction and health care resources often differ substantially, which can influence the effects of COVID-19 interventions like social distancing policies. Their effectiveness can’t be simply extrapolated from one context to another.

Ultimately, deciding which effects of our interventions to measure and how to measure them is not a purely scientific problem; it is also an ethical problem. Summing deaths assigns moral worth to life and treats all lives equally. Counting life-years lost and effects on quality of life assumes that how much life is lived and how it is lived also matters. Some effects are more difficult to quantify or predict but must not be ignored, especially when we have the ability to offset them with further action.

 

[.X.]

Given more time, Trump will destroy you, your family, me, my family.

I must protect both you and me. You must not make that mistake. Trust me, vote for Biden. You will be so glad you did.

Trump can not destroy anything .... the house and senate .. along with Supreme Court wouldn’t allow that to happen ... he signs executive orders that can be changed by the next president with the stroke of a pen.

a government reform to a socialist - communist government is permanent... Trump is temporary.... the way lessor of two evils IMO

 

[Silentptnr]

I feel it is more important to preserve our founded government as opposed to trying to fight all the corruption in Washington ... that can be dealt with as well one we have a solid nominee for president ... it is worth the wait to me as opposed to jumping in feet first when I know what the Democratic narrative and end agenda is ... I want my son to be able to prosper under America’s founded government, my grand kids ... it runs that deep with me

How did you do during the 8 years that Obama led the country? I can tell you that Bush pretty much ruined everything. Obama years were good years. His legacy and reputation will always be legendary. That's why Trump despises him. He's jealous. Everyone knows it.

Trump is a total loser. Actually worse than ever. He had no power before. Now, even with power, he didn't do right. Loser.

 

[Silentptnr]

Trump can not destroy anything .... the house and senate .. along with Supreme Court wouldn’t allow that to happen ... he signs executive orders that can be changed by the next president with the stroke of a pen.

a government reform to a socialist - communist government is permanent... Trump is temporary.... the way lessor of two evils IMO

What evidence do you have that America will become socialist or communist under a democrat president?

 

[Silentptnr]

Like the evidence that Trump lies to his team. Lies to the citizens that trust him. That pay him.

 

[mr-x]

Democrats are tolerant and would never lie or help someone like Donald Trump.

CNN: Jeff Zucker tries to help candidate Donald Trump in his debate with HRC.


fooled again

 

[.X.]

I know one thing. Trump is absolute worst president (I strain to say president) that this country has ever seen. It is truly too much to list. He is a pathelogical liar, a cheater, a fraudster. And it pains me to describe the President that way, but it is true.

But he can’t do much.... so all we have to do is sit it out 4 more years until a good nominee appears for 2024 , our government will survive as it was founded and we can move forward in 2024 .... we only have Trump and Biden to vote for.... Trump is temporary.... Biden is for good as far as the gov reform goes

 

[mr-x]

Like the evidence that Trump lies to his team. Lies to the citizens that trust him. That pay him.

Be specific. Vague accusation are nothing but lies.

 

[Silentptnr]

Trump can not destroy anything .... the house and senate .. along with Supreme Court wouldn’t allow that to happen ... he signs executive orders that can be changed by the next president with the stroke of a pen.

a government reform to a socialist - communist government is permanent... Trump is temporary.... the way lessor of two evils IMO

Of course he can. He already has. He's destroyed a ton. The guy doesn't want clean water, doesn't want clean air, doesn't care about finances, doesn't care about American deaths, doesn't care about racial unrest.

Of course he can destroy things. That's the only thing he is good at.

 

[Namersen]

 

[Silentptnr]

Be specific. Vague accusation are nothing but lies.

They just released tapes of the loser clearly expressing what he knew at a time when he publicly denied it.

 

[sonatime]

Barnes explains Michael Strickland Self-Defence CONVICTION
and the corrupt judicial system and political animals that reside in it.

 

[Silentptnr]

I agree 100 % .... but no reason to make those who didn’t commit a crime , aren’t racist .... pay the same price

So it's okay that Trump stole the retirements of seniors with his Trump University scam?

 

[.X.]

Like the evidence that Trump lies to his team. Lies to the citizens that trust him. That pay him.

I look at like this... Trump can be a Buffon .. no doubt about it ... he can clown good too.. but he is virtually harmless because it all amounts to nothing.... he can’t implement things .... he is blocked in that aspect .. aside from some executive order.. which can voided ... he is harmless

He may piss you off .... but that is pretty much all he can do ... He can keep America a free country under its founded gov though... just by doing nothing.

Trump is savvy as fuck when it comes to the economy and money though ... so we can easily sustain until 2024 ... then move forward with hopefully a peoples President

 

[sonatime]

You didn't read my post. I said he would have Posed as a Republican like Trump did in order to get elected.

Dems would have never nominated Hitler.

Hitler was a Dictator
Trump is a Wannabe Dictator.

Republicans elected Trump so there you go...........

If my grandma had wheels she would have been a bike

lennco, what do you pose as?

 

[Domainace]

Thats racist.

No it's not. And that's exactly the kind of response we are concerned about. Rather than discuss something on its merits, just demonize the speaker. A typical fascist response.

I know one thing. Trump is absolute worst president (I strain to say president) that this country has ever seen.

"Worst president ever" always saddens me. Nobody who knows any history at all could say something like this. For most people who say it, history started 5 years ago. Many presidents have practiced genocidal policies. Truman obliterated 2 cities filled with women and children using atomic weapons, FDR practiced dictatorial policies, oppressed American citizens and legal immigrants by taking their homes and their lives, Kennedy, LBJ and finally Nixon (who at least ended the war) caused millions of deaths in SE Asia. Some presidents owned slaves.

These are real atrocities of the past, real lives. And yet "grab em by the pussy" means Trump is worse?? Trump has been the least warlike president since Carter.

Sorry, but you are too easily manipulated. It will be the death of America if the Democrats have their way. Probably the death of America if the Republicans have their way, too. Trump supporters understand that something is fundamentally wrong. I might say the same of Bernie supporters - but their solutions will make the problem worse.

 

[Domainace]

Obama years were good years. His legacy and reputation will always be legendary.

So was FDR, despite his obvious failures. That's the thing about legends. They are usually fiction.

 

[Silentptnr]

I look at like this... Trump can be a Buffon .. no doubt about it ... he can clown good too.. but he is virtually harmless because it all amounts to nothing.... he can’t implement things .... he is blocked in that aspect .. aside from some executive order.. which can voided ... he is harmless

He may piss you off .... but that is pretty much all he can do ... He can keep America a free country under its founded gov though... just by doing nothing.

Trump is savvy as fuck when it comes to the economy and money though ... so we can easily sustain until 2024 ... then move forward with hopefully a peoples President

 

[.X.]

So it's okay that Trump stole the retirements of seniors with his Trump University scam?

that is pure speculation though... as many of things that Trump is accused of ..... the Trump University thing was a silly business to start for someone of his wealth ... I agree ........ but was it an actual scam?? I don’t think it was....it wasn’t an MLM type of ponzi thing or anything like that ... it was for educational purposes only just as the people who signed for up and attended it knew ... people could do the same that are power sellers in the domain industry,, they can teach you how to make money in the industry ... but they can’t do it for you.

 

[Silentptnr]

No it's not. And that's exactly the kind of response we are concerned about. Rather than discuss something on its merits, just demonize the speaker. A typical fascist response.



"Worst president ever" always saddens me. Nobody who knows any history at all could say something like this. For most people who say it, history started 5 years ago. Many presidents have practiced genocidal policies. Truman obliterated 2 cities filled with women and children using atomic weapons, FDR practiced dictatorial policies, oppressed American citizens and legal immigrants by taking their homes and their lives, Kennedy, LBJ and finally Nixon (who at least ended the war) caused millions of deaths in SE Asia. Some presidents owned slaves.

These are real atrocities of the past, real lives. And yet "grab em by the pussy" means Trump is worse?? Trump has been the least warlike president since Carter.

Sorry, but you are too easily manipulated. It will be the death of America if the Democrats have their way. Probably the death of America if the Republicans have their way, too. Trump supporters understand that something is fundamentally wrong. I might say the same of Bernie supporters - but their solutions will make the problem worse.

How about screw your "we". How about we are the "we". How about we make the rules and you follow them.

 

[Silentptnr]

that is pure speculation though... as many of things that Trump is accused of ..... the Trump University thing was a silly business to start for someone of his wealth ... I agree ........ but was it an actual scam?? I don’t think it was....it wasn’t an MLM type of ponzi thing or anything like that ... it was for educational purposes only just as the people who signed for up and attended it knew ... people could do the same that are power sellers in the domain industry,, they can teach you how to make money in the industry ... but they can’t do it for you.

Those stories and lawsuits were not speculation.