Discuss your Epik Experience!

[dande]

I think Epik is building the best ever Domain Lander in the history of domaining, and it really needs to be talked about extensively. That's why I am creating this discussion thread. A lot of thought process really goes into the project. And I can see (for the first time) a landing page that is built from the stand point of domainers rather than for just the marketplace itself.

Everything you have ever dreamt of getting or seeing in a professional landing page can be found in the new Epik marketplace landing page design.

Some of my Favorites Features:

1. The ability to optimize your "domain for sale" landing page to actually rank on Google, displaying your sales pitch/domain description. I just did that with few of my generic domain names such as ASAP.TV, targeting certain keywords, and they are showing pretty well on Google. That's a huge plus in my marketing effort.

2. Being able to change background image is another huge one for me. If you are good with pictures and images, you will surely find this very useful. I did that with Nagasaki.org and the result was truly amazing, showing the city of Nagasaki right at the background.

There are too many positive features and I don't want to mention all of them, all alone

So I am leaving you guys to share and discuss what you loves most or dislike about the new Epik marketplace and the landing pages.

The only negative for me is the checkout process. There are too many terms and conditions buttons to tick before checking out. It will be nice if they can streamline those into one beautiful big button

They also need to place the checkout button directly under the payment options. Right now it is awkwardly place somewhere below at the sidebar, which I don't find cool at all.

Sales experience is also welcomed in this discussion. I haven't had any sells so far at Epik because I started using the marketplace just recently, but the future is looking so bright.

 

[Business Brands]

renew it manually

get a 10 year renewal
after 1 year switch to another registar
renew for another 10 years

so you are at 19 years
next year add 1 year manually

now you spend about $200 USD max
half of epik "forever domain"

relax

after 20 years
have a look
what artificial intelligence has done meanwhile

decide if you still want that name

So, you are out of $200 and you keep paying renewals.

 

[oldtimer]

they didn't say that they keep the 10 years up

It would only make sense if the domain has a 10 year safety net for expiration that is always kept up. IMO

 

[Business Brands]

From what we know, this sefety net of 10 years is a part of what is being offered.

 

[Business Brands]

Safety net of 10 years plus a perpetual renewal.

 

[Business Brands]

And also, we don't know why some people would think that Robert Monster would be playing any games.

 

[oldtimer]

Safety net of 10 years plus a perpetual renewal.

This is my understanding too.

 

[Windoms]

@Rob Monster are we getting a 10 year safety net + perpetual renewal?
So that it always expires in 10 years?

 

[Rob Monster]

@Rob Monster are we getting a 10 year safety net + perpetual renewal?
So that it always expires in 10 years?

Correct -- that is how it is done. The runway is extended to the maximum length supported by each registry. This is also for our risk mitigation.

 

[Rob Monster]

By popular request, we can accept Payoneer now.

If folks need to fund their Epik accounts via Payoneer, contact us via PM and we will assist

Also, it looks like it might be possible to receive funds across the Payoneer partner network. If folks hold balances at a Payoneer partner, we may be able to assist there:

For now, @Ala Dadan will add it to the list of supported payment methods.

If anyone has some non "poop coin" payment method as a funding source, feel free to suggest and we'll investigate.

Also, ICYMI, as of last week, we are processing UnionPay. For the Chinese clients that is a relatively big deal. The capital controls in China are crazy.

 

[Mister Funsky]

Also, ICYMI, as of last week, we are processing UnionPay. For the Chinese clients that is a relatively big deal. The capital controls in China are crazy.

This is pretty big news, right? I think this will give us more/better access to the Chinese market...good news for us all.

 

[Rob Monster]

This is pretty big news, right? I think this will give us more/better access to the Chinese market...good news for us all.

Yes, exactly.

The Chinese Renimbi is perhaps the biggest ponzi in all of world history. Chinese investors are desperately trying to convert their illiquid paper into useful assets.

 

[oldtimer]

If anyone has some non "poop coin" payment method as a funding source

What does it take to make a new crypto coin, doesn't epik have the encryption system and resources to do it.

Maybe someday there will be one Universal Coin (at least for the domain Industry)

 

[Business Brands]

No more coins please. Enough already.

 

[TCK]

“Forever registration” is not real. Period. It is a money grab. No one in the industry will respect it. Again, Rob and Epik are playing with words like with their “escrow”. What they are doing at best is managing domain renewals. But this lack of transparency doesn’t inspire confidence.

 

[oldtimer]

“Forever registration” is not real. Period. It is a money grab. No one in the industry will respect it. Again, Rob and Epik are playing with words like with their “escrow”. What they are doing at best is managing domain renewals. But this lack of transparency doesn’t inspire confidence.

$2500/ForeverDomain = MoneyGrab

$399/ForeverDomain = Good Service

Considering that most end users are paying way more than domainers for renewals.

 

[TCK]

$2500/ForeverDomain = MoneyGrab

$399/ForeverDomain = Good Service

Considering that most end users are paying way more than domainers for renewals.

There is no such thing as “forever registration”. Get it through your head. If I offered it to you for 199, limited time offer, would you jump on it? It’s snake oil.

 

[frank-germany]

$2500/ForeverDomain = MoneyGrab

$399/ForeverDomain = Good Service

Considering that most end users are paying way more than domainers for renewals.

I registered my first domain in 1996
that's 23 years before today

now looking 20 years ahead
things might have changes
the same way or even more than they did
-think of AI
20 years renewal is more than enough

you can easily invest the additional money
not spend at epik
into a better ROI investment

Rob is planning to do the same with your money
in order to have the funds for +10 years renewals coming up
and keeping the tip

 

[oldtimer]

There is no such thing as “forever registration”. Get it through your head. If I offered it to you for 199, limited time offer, would you jump on it? It’s snake oil.

it's for long enough time that it can be branded as "Forever" even though it technically might not be till the end of the Universe. Do you think that most unlimited plans that claim to give you unlimited time for your smart phone are actually truly unlimited, probably not in most cases, but they are branded as unlimited because the time limits are more than the average person needs or uses. IMO

 

[frank-germany]

it's for long enough time that it can be branded as "Forever" even though it technically might not be till the end of the Universe. Do you think that most unlimited plans that claim to give you unlimited time for your smart phone are actually truly unlimited, probably not in most cases, but they are branded as unlimited because the time limits are more than the average person needs or uses. IMO

so you agree
it's a hoax

as it literally can't be renewed "forever"

 

[oldtimer]

so you agree
it's a hoax

as it literally can't be renewed "forever"

it's branded as Forever , I don't go that far to call it a hoax because as I already explained it is being done by many other companies and people understand it, it's kind of like having lifetime warranty on something if it goes long enough it can be branded as lifetime.

 

[Business Brands]

10 year safety net plus perpetual renewal.
Is it not forever?

 

[TCK]

it's for long enough time that it can be branded as "Forever" even though it technically might not be till the end of the Universe. Do you think that most unlimited plans that claim to give you unlimited time for your smart phone are actually truly unlimited, probably not in most cases, but they are branded as unlimited because the time limits are more than the average person needs or uses. IMO

Just remember, @oldtimer, you are defending a registration period that doesn't exist. That's a fantasy. If anyone gets burned by this, you are partly responsible.

10 year safety net plus perpetual renewal.
Is it not forever?

It's not a forever registration. Note that the keyword is "registration". Unless it is honored by ICANN and the registry. Otherwise it is misleading and false advertising.

 

[oldtimer]

Just remember, @oldtimer, you are defending a registration period that doesn't exist. That's a fantasy. If anyone gets burned by this, you are partly responsible.

I am just saying what my understanding of Forever Domain is.

I have already indicated in my previous posts that it might not be what an average domainer here needs.

 

[TCK]

Forever registrations from registries will happen. It may start with the ccTLDs, but let's face the fact that most of the gTLDs are dead ducks because of price uncertainty.

When Uniregistry increased price from one year to the next by a factor of 30X, the seal was broken for gTLD price projectability.

I have been saying for more than 1 year that the only way for gTLD to come back into relevance is to introduce forever pricing -- buy it once and own it forever.

Forever domains from registries will happen. You can take that to the bank.

In the meantime, Epik is underwriting a tiny amount of risk, no different than an insurance company that sells policies. We modeled the risk, and provide a service.

And if I was crazy enough to acquire a registry, the very first thing I would do is introduce Forever pricing -- buy it once and own it forever. Slam dunk business plan.

Uniregistry can increase prices because they are not only the registrar but also the registry for those TLDs. And they got a lot of industry blowback for doing that.

And this brings up the point, what happens when the renewal price increases? Will Epik continue to renew my domains at maximum periods even if it is at a financial loss to you?

 

[TCK]

I am just saying what my understanding of Forever Domain is.

I have already indicated in my previous posts that it might not be what an average domainer here needs.

You are going to lengths to defend it. Sounds like you are pretty certain this is good service and are recommending it.

$2500/ForeverDomain = MoneyGrab

$399/ForeverDomain = Good Service

Considering that most end users are paying way more than domainers for renewals.