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Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun :)

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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
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LOL... now I see why it went ApeSh*t in that store... to get some video footage for it's crappy rap song!!!

Pretty good impersonation of a man though..
 
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I can't even wrap my brain around how anyone could possibly think that saying a wall is immoral would sit well with most people regardless of which political party they are for.

Right now in Europe there is a great debate over what to do about Northern Ireland and Ireland if they follow through with Brexit. There's two countries that have literally fought and died in the name of religion and I have yet to hear about the immorality of having a hard border there again.

Do you think the South Koreans would be happy if we did away with the dmz? Surely given these standards by which some people think our country should abide the dmz most be highly immoral.
 
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My point was more abstract I guess then "Hey where are these numbers coming from?" It doesn't really matter whose providing them but how they're coming by them. How do you calculate an illegal activity? Based on polls of people who voluntarily admit they are breaking the law? Solely off the amount of people you catch doing it?

Do either of those scenarios seem like a good way to make real calculations of something so in depth and important?

I don't have time to look it up, but if you locate the report those statistics came from they should explain the methodology. It's a government report, should be available to the public.

I guess the point I was trying to make is numbers can be manipulated so easily that they can be almost meaningless and if numbers are the best argument you can make then I honestly don't think you've delved deep enough.

For something like this, the associated government office is not likely to deliberately "manipulate" the data. If they are (with what motive?), we have far bigger problems than a few Hondurans trying to claim asylum.

There may however be inaccuracies in the overall numbers.

Which is my other point:

Let's say their data collection methodology is imperfect (and it probably is) - that would mean that they're extrapolating their data from a subset of all possible information...

Assuming the collection methodology has remained consistent, the percentage of that subset to the actual numbers should remain relatively stable, and a significant net gain or loss is going to be indicative regardless.

As long as the sample size is statistically significant to begin with.

But the thing to do is look up those reports and read the notes on the methodology they used.
 
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A journalist listed all the fake hate crimes since President Trump was elected.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo
And just imagine all the Fake hate crimes that were NEVER discovered during the past years.

I wonder why Blacks are the main perpetrators of these fake crimes?
 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir

This is an international forum and we have Muslim members. Maybe take this conversation to the religious thread and respectfully ask them yourself what it means?

I am not interested in debating religion with christians or non christians. Christopher Hitchens and guys like him did that. Christians also have a brutal past. But I recognize that Christians are not out proactively causing political issues and constantly in the news for hate crimes as I pointed out in the news articles you didnt read.

You dodged all the news articles.

Ilhan Omar is a radical. She was elected evidently by shitty non deserving Minnesota Somali refugees and radicals who should go back to Somalia, she is as Anti Israel as a politician can be. She is a total POS that is political, not religious hiding behind that rag on her face. This is a political thread and I will post whatever I want.
 
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@offthehandle - put your Muslim hate post in ]

And you are always attacking me personally, calling names and disagreeing with whatever but I wiil post political statements regarding Ilhan Omar, a dirty slime ball Politician. Paul Ryan too.

I will continue, then you and the rest can have me reported and banned just like Facebook and google and twitter do with those who disagree.

Ask the mods to remove me. Do it. Do it now. I will take it as a badge on honor you POS.
 
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I can't even wrap my brain around how anyone could possibly think that saying a wall is immoral would sit well with most people regardless of which political party they are for.

Right now in Europe there is a great debate over what to do about Northern Ireland and Ireland if they follow through with Brexit. There's two countries that have literally fought and died in the name of religion and I have yet to hear about the immorality of having a hard border there again.

Do you think the South Koreans would be happy if we did away with the dmz? Surely given these standards by which some people think our country should abide the dmz most be highly immoral.
20 years after the Good Friday agreement a wall in Belfast, Northern Ireland, that is several miles long and erected to separate the Protestant and Catholic communities, is still there today! And yet the British Politicians and all the Liberals are always bitching about Trumps "Immoral" wall.
http://contestedrepresentations.history.lmu.build/group-5-the-troubles/shane-m/
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I'd like to see all Liberals get a great big ax and destroy the doors and windows in their homes and put a nice big blue (not red) sign outside with the words: "Refugees and Illegal Immigrants are welcome here"

And then wait and see what happens!!!
 
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Lots and lots of big beautiful walls all over this world we live in. Even Vatican City has a wall.
 
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I am not interested in debating religion with christians or non christians. Christopher Hitchens and guys like him did that. Christians also have a brutal past. But I recognize that Christians are not out proactively causing political issues and constantly in the news for hate crimes as I pointed out in the news articles you didnt read.
It's funny you're posting this and then there is a post about Northern Ireland reminding us that Christians also fight one another...
 
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And you are always attacking me personally,

I will continue, then you and the rest can have me reported and banned just like Facebook and google and twitter do with those who disagree.

Ask the mods to remove me. Do it. Do it now. I will take it as a badge on honor you POS.
Be aware of that snake that goes by the name of JB. Don't be surprised if he hasn't gone back many pages in this or other threads and DISLIKED your Posts.

He did that about a month and a half ago on this thread on my posts. He went to pages 1 and 2 of this thread (from almost 7 years ago) and DISLIKED ALL my Posts.... for absolutely NO reason at all, except for his hatred towards me, but especially because he's like a snake... he will always strike at and poison you no matter what... He can NEVER be trusted as a human being.

Oh and BTW, I can't even imagine how many other posts of mine he's indiscriminately DISLIKED in a thread with 1307 pages so far and where I've posted thousands of times.

Be careful of the Snake...
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Well I don't imagine he'll appreciate that post :)

Once upon a time in a land far far away. Open minded debate created the world of today.
 
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Jussie Smollett reportedly was going to press charges against the two people arrested for beating him up until the police told him who they were.

If true, he was OK with pressing charges against people he knew were innocent.
 
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And you are always attacking me personally, calling names and disagreeing with whatever but I wiil post political statements regarding Ilhan Omar, a dirty slime ball Politician. Paul Ryan too.

I will continue, then you and the rest can have me reported and banned just like Facebook and google and twitter do with those who disagree.

Ask the mods to remove me. Do it. Do it now. I will take it as a badge on honor you POS.

Ok, this nonsense.

Do it, do it now, do it. You're sounding like a little baby having a tantrum. Gilsan said the same thing. 2 grown men saying it's a badge of honor to get removed from a forum. Get a grip. You're both still posting here, right?

As far as attacks, you'll notice as far as I go, I'm kind of like a mirror. I don't have any issues with .x. . He's Christian, we disagree on politics at times but I can tell he's a decent person.

You're a different story. You just complained about attacks but you told another member to fuck off and die, you told me to fuck off and die last time I copied your ignorant religious hate to the other thread, you just called me a POS. So don't cry if you get it back, stop being a hypocrite.

To your ignorance. You posted a general Islam is not peaceful post. You get your info off White Nationalist Hate sites. Look what you just posted:

"Ilhan Omar is a radical. She was elected evidently by sh*tty non deserving Minnesota Somali refugees and radicals who should go back to Somalia, she is as Anti Israel as a politician can be. She is a total POS that is political, not religious hiding behind that rag on her face"

Just said she should go back to Africa, rag on her face. Do you know they have higher graduation rates than people born here.

You're anti-Muslim, anti-Refugee, anti-government workers etc. You actually got joy when they weren't getting paid. You're obviously a hateful, miserable person.

Back to Islam and the bs you post. I had a friend that used to post that bs. Let me give you an example. The "kill all infidels". Used to post that passage. I said why don't you post what comes before and after to give it context. That was about a specific incident where pagans traveled across the desert to kill Muslims. Infidels being those pagans. That's basic self defense.

Your hate/ignorance is part of the problem. In America, the problem are people that look like you, miserable, white men. That's where our domestic terrorism issues lie. We have millions of Muslims living in America, if they were the problem, we would be having incidents left and right. We don't. They are more likely to have issues with people like you spreading your ignorant hate. You'll find at the core most people are the same. They wake up trying to have the best lives possibles for themselves and their families.

Be aware of that snake that goes by the name of JB. Don't be surprised if he hasn't gone back many pages in this or other threads and DISLIKED your Posts

This is funny because I haven't, I guess lying is a habit with you. Basic eyeballs in your head should be able to see that. The funny part is @offthehandle literally did that to my posts the first time I copied his stuff over to the Religious thread. Told me to fuck off and die, went back and started disliking posts like a little baby.

@offthehandle forgot to mention. The stuff she said about Israel that you have issues with, Trump said the same things.

Example of what I was talking about:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-1298#post-7100476

JB Lions, Feb 8, 2019 Report
Dislikes: offthehandle

It was about 7 of them. Didn't bother me a bit. I just took it as somebody being in their feelings, having an emotional moment.
 
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And I don't give a f...
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if he does!!!

Of course you care. Hatred towards you? Why in the world would I dislike you? Is it because you're racist, sexist, feel it's ok to assault women based on how they're dressed, homophobe, anti-other religions, etc. Could that be it? Could it be you blocked me because you couldn't handle your nonsense being taken apart?

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President's Day. From the big brain on Chump:

This was an illegal coup attempt on the President of the United States.” Dan Bongino on @foxandfriends True!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago
 
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It's funny you're posting this and then there is a post about Northern Ireland reminding us that Christians also fight one another...

Funny? I can’t believe in your vast intelligence you’d think or feel the “Troubles” were funny. Disgusting Catholic vs Other Christian hate, from your people.

So do the Shiite and Sunnis and Kurds they all hate and kill each other. Disgusting.

And btw, the English origin colonists could be historically argued the most hateful, worse atrocties than the Early French, Dutch and Spanish. The Iron maiden, the rack and all sorts of those devices were born in your Country. And the rest of the world complains about putting illegal border crossers, fake refugees, fraudulent detainees in the chain link and calling it torture in a cage. Meanwhile, criminals radicals throw acid and stab people and mow them down w trucks and roam free in the UK and your Politicians look the other way. At least Trump doesn’t look the other way.
 
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At least Trump doesn’t look the other way.

Somebody got murdered, he tried to draw a moral equivalence between the groups during that Alt-Right march. He does look the other way if it's going to cost him votes. If it's white, it's all right. That's his thinking.
 
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This is a lie JB is very fond of. It gives him a sense of righteous outrage and moral superiority.

Somebody got murdered, he tried to draw a moral equivalence between the groups during that Alt-Right march. He does look the other way if it's going to cost him votes. If it's white, it's all right. That's his thinking.
 
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This is a lie JB is very fond of. It gives him a sense of righteous outrage and moral superiority.

Which part is a lie? Are you ever going to break that habit? Usually if you say something is a lie, get specific to what you're talking about, then back it up.

He had his lowest ratings after this:

Then he had to follow that up with prepared remarks to try to fix it.

 
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To your ignorance. You posted a general Islam is not peaceful post. You get your info off White Nationalist Hate sites. Look what you just posted:

You are extemely ignorant of who I am and what I believe in. I am ultra conservative on some things. Others not.

From the time I entered this thread you attacked me calling me a Racist etc.

I have never ever, been on any political forum, never been on some hate site white nationalist sites EVER. The Islam supremist site that had political ties was a factual site, that bothered you. Disprove anything they said as false.

The truth is something you can’t handle.

Your Country is being screwed up by all this non traditional non christian based b.s. and change. Fueled by Trump hate. You hate Trump, you post queer photos with him and Putin. Disgraceful. He is was elected by 50% of the population. You evidently think White supremist is Breitbart and Fox, and TGP, etc. They are obviously not. You argue with Free Speech all the time, like you did with the GAB thread.

And as far as Government workers? Yea, thats the only thing truthful you said, the majority of them are scum of the earth. Nobody in the real world would hire them. Period. They would need to be on Welfare if not for Govt jobs.
 
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It's simple.. You enthusiastically put the worse possible spin on EVERY statement the President makes.

Is it possible the President meant there were good people on both sides of the protest, and not everyone there were hateful assholes? Yes. Much more likely than the spiteful spin you keep repeating.

Which part is a lie? Are you ever going to break that habit? Usually if you say something is a lie, get specific to what you're talking about, then back it up.

He had his lowest ratings after this:

Then he had to follow that up with prepared remarks to try to fix it.

 
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It's simple.. You enthusiastically put the worse possible spin on EVERY statement the President makes.

Is it possible the President meant there were good people on both sides of the protest, and not everyone there were hateful assholes? Yes. Much more likely than the spiteful spin you keep repeating.

Spin? It's on video, genius. No, there aren't good people on the Nazi, Jews will not replace us side. You're the one trying to spin here.
 
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Spin? It's on video, genius. No, there aren't good people on the Nazi, Jews will not replace us side. You're the one trying to spin here.

So everyone on the side you're not on was a nazi? The LOCAL people who were protesting the removal of a statue that had been there for decades were all nazis?

Tell us more about how antifa are like WWII solders fighting for our freedom.
 
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