BrandBucket era is over

[Isac]

Brandbucket already have more than 48000 domain, now which means if you will try to sell domain through them . You don't stand any chance even if you have hundreds of domains. For each domain you need to pay $ 10, which means you end of paying $ 100 for only 10 domains which will probably will never be sold and you have to put their nameservers. which means all traffic will go towards them.

Trust me guys BB era is over and it's all about Namepros now.

You don't need to buy domain which are BB accepeted or rejected. Use your mind and buy brandable domains which you think are good.

It's only my opinion. You can share yours.

 

[Isac]

This is the most BS statement ive seen on here. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Please don't post nonsense re "sour grapes" . NO ONE other than insiders make money on BB - NO ONE.

 

[Embrand]

This is the most BS statement ive seen on here. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Please don't post nonsense re "sour grapes" . NO ONE other than insiders make money on BB - NO ONE.

That is quite a bold statement to make. I have never been a BrandBucket employee, ambassador, cheerleader or mascot or received special privileges. But I make a profit there.

I am pretty sure @JimJammy is not in insider too, and she was generous enough to provide her sales record earlier in this thread.

Sure, BrandBucket is not for everyone and not perfect. But I think there are many sellers that are quite happy with their results.

 

[kaposzta]

This is the most BS statement ive seen on here. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Please don't post nonsense re "sour grapes" . NO ONE other than insiders make money on BB - NO ONE.

You also made a bullshit statement. Based on my experience, lots of "not insider" people make money on BB, at least they are making sales.

 

[London555]

You also made a bullsh*t statement. Based on my experience, lots of "not insider" people make money on BB, at least they are making sales.

If @michaelkrell comes on here and states that BB or it's insiders have never gone out and reg'd any names that were put on their site by domianers and PAID for by domianers after they expired then i'd be happy to withdraw my statement. As to "many are making money or at least selling names" which is it? What so many here refuse to post is the renewal fees - cost of names submitted but rejected by BB etc etc ect. It would also be interesting to see how many names BB insiders went out and reg'd after they had rejected them and they become available again or if they have a list that contains those names. It would be very easy for @michaelkrell to come on here and simply say that BB doesn't do that. Happy New Year!

 

[NameOmnia]

This is my account balance for last year (and that's less the commission and logo fees). Enough said!

First of all congratulations

Second, if you are willing to share, I would like to know how many domains you have with BB, what your number of sales / portfolio size and how many years you have been domaining for.
Thanks

 

[London555]

First of all congratulations

Second, if you are willing to share, I would like to know how many domains you have with BB, what your number of sales / portfolio size and how many years you have been domaining for.
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Yes and thank you for posting this but would also like to know rejection costs renewal fees on names not accepted etc etc ect - just the account balance really doesn't show an ROI on all the brandables held.

 

[Michael M]

If @michaelkrell comes on here and states that BB or it's insiders have never gone out and reg'd any names that were put on their site by domianers and PAID for by domianers after they expired then i'd be happy to withdraw my statement.

No offense, but IMO if you allow a domain to drop - beyond that point, nothing regarding that domain should really matter to you.

We all live in the same pond and certainly we rotate ownership of many domains between everyone. Endless cycle of drop and catch.

Rather or not to do business with another company is a personal decision, and obviously you chose not to do business with BB. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Recons.Com]

No offense, but IMO if you allow a domain to drop - beyond that point, nothing regarding that domain should really matter to you.

We all live in the same pond and certainly we rotate ownership of many domains between everyone. Endless cycle of drop and catch.

Rather or not to do business with another company is a personal decision, and obviously you chose not to do business with BB. There is nothing wrong with that.

I think what is referred here is when BB rejects a name as not a good fit for BB, the owner does not renew trusting BB opinion that the name is not a good brandable only to find out in a short while that the name has been registered by an insider.

This is a clear conflict of interest and should not be allowed.

 

[Michael M]

Yes and thank you for posting this but would also like to know rejection costs renewal fees on names not accepted etc etc ect - just the account balance really doesn't show an ROI on all the brandables held.

Renewals effect us all, regardless of the platform we sell them on. So your point is not clear.

I will assist - I believe you are saying that it is impossible to make money at BB unless you are an "insider."

I have to disagree because, I, and many others have made a decent profit at BB. I am no insider.

A better and more accurate argument is - does BB's exposure of your domains justify the cost of doing business with them?

^Everyone needs to do their own math and decide

 

[Michael M]

I think what is referred here is when BB rejects a name as not a good fit for BB, the owner does not renew trusting BB opinion that the name is not a good brandable only to find out in a short while that the name has been registered by an insider.

This is a clear conflict of interest and should not be allowed.

I agree that specific situation would be immoral and wrong if it were a practice at BB.

I personally don't think it is, but don't have proof otherwise.

 

[London555]

I think what is referred here is when BB rejects a name as not a good fit for BB, the owner does not renew trusting BB opinion that the name is not a good brandable only to find out in a short while that the name has been registered by an insider.

This is a clear conflict of interest and should not be allowed.

Exactly.

 

[JimJammy]

First of all congratulations

Second, if you are willing to share, I would like to know how many domains you have with BB, what your number of sales / portfolio size and how many years you have been domaining for.
Thanks

Thanks.

I've been domaining properly (20+hours a week) for around 11 years. This last year as a full time domainer.

I have over 3,000 domains. I keep trying to get it under 3,000 but it just doesn't happen. Today, I have 1,561 domains on Brandbucket, I listed my first name at the end of May 2015. Details of my annual progress, June to June, can be found in my signature.

Brandbucket made up just over 20% of my annual income last year. To be clear, approximately half of the domains I own are on Brandbucket and 20% of my annual income came from there. The other 80% of my income came from the other half of the domains I own (which are not brandables). The previous year 12% of my annual income came from BB and 88% of my income came from my non-brandables.

I see brandable domaining as another type of domaining (not keeping all of my eggs in one basket). As long as it's profitable, takes up little time and grows year on year I'll continue to grow a brandable portfolio. My non-brandable domaining takes up a lot of time and is hard work (but more profitable). I am planning to slow down and enjoy life in a few years (retire), without spending time on my non-brandables that side of my income will drop so brandable domaining for me is a bit of a long term back up plan.

I hope that answers your questions.

 

[NameOmnia]

Thanks.

I am not sure I understood how much of your turnover for year is on BB.

You said you have 1550+ names there, how many do you sell per year? That is the percentage you sell p/y.

 

[JimJammy]

Thanks.

I am not sure I understood how much of your turnover for year is on BB.

You said you have 1550+ names there, how many do you sell per year? That is the percentage you sell p/y.

I honestly don't remember how many names I had live at the beginning of the year but it was around the 1,000 area. I have around the 1,500 now (the end of the year).

So we can assume the average was around 1,250 for the entire year and I have sold 22 names. I make that 1.76% sell through rate.

I have to add that I don't really buy into the sell through rate discussion, if I sell a name on GoDaddy I don't calculate the profit being the sale, less the purchase/renewal of all of the other domains I have listed on GoDaddy. I'm not knocking those that do, each to their own calculations.

I spent less than $1,000 on buying/listing those 22 domains and came away with over $35,000.

 

[London555]

Thanks.

I've been domaining properly (20+hours a week) for around 11 years. This last year as a full time domainer.

I have over 3,000 domains. I keep trying to get it under 3,000 but it just doesn't happen. Today, I have 1,561 domains on Brandbucket, I listed my first name at the end of May 2015. Details of my annual progress, June to June, can be found in my signature.

Brandbucket made up just over 20% of my annual income last year. To be clear, approximately half of the domains I own are on Brandbucket and 20% of my annual income came from there. The other 80% of my income came from the other half of the domains I own (which are not brandables). The previous year 12% of my annual income came from BB and 88% of my income came from my non-brandables.

I see brandable domaining as another type of domaining (not keeping all of my eggs in one basket). As long as it's profitable, takes up little time and grows year on year I'll continue to grow a brandable portfolio. My non-brandable domaining takes up a lot of time and is hard work (but more profitable). I am planning to slow down and enjoy life in a few years (retire), without spending time on my non-brandables that side of my income will drop so brandable domaining for me is a bit of a long term back up plan.

I hope that answers your questions.

Thank you for posting this but please correct me if Im wrong. In your 2nd year you made $20,000 ( not $59K) of BB names ( the names on their BB site) but you had 1400 names listed there and I assume - again please correct me if im wrong - you paid approx $10 reg fee and another $10 to list them them with BB ( if you get a break re volume that's understandable) and that doesn't include rejections.I wish you well but I don't get the math on the BB names. Happy New Year.

 

[London555]

I honestly don't remember how many names I had live at the beginning of the year but it was around the 1,000 area. I have around the 1,500 now (the end of the year).

So we can assume the average was around 1,250 for the entire year and I have sold 22 names. I make that 1.76% sell through rate.

I have to add that I don't really buy into the sell through rate discussion, if I sell a name on GoDaddy I don't calculate the profit being the sale, less the purchase/renewal of all of the other domains I have listed on GoDaddy. I'm not knocking those that do, each to their own calculations.

I spent less than $1,000 on buying/listing those 22 domains and came away with over $35,000.

Assuming 1250 names at a reg'd fee of $10 and listing fee of $10 never mind renewal fees those 22 names didn't cost you you $1,000 they cost you cost $25,000 in the scope of all things considered. If I had 5000 names on BB and sell one name for $8000 that cost me $10 is that a profit of $7,980? Of course not. This is exceptionally misleading to new domainers that read what you're writing.

 

[JimJammy]

My second year on BB is June - June (as stated above) = $20Kish. My last year is January to December = $35Kish. Sales have continued to grow for me. I had more names on BB in the second half of the year and I had more sales in the second half of the year.

 

[JimJammy]

Assuming 1250 names at a reg'd fee of $10 and listing fee of $10 never mind renewal fees those 22 names didn't cost you you $1,000 they cost you cost $25,000 in the scope of all things considered. If I had 5000 names on BB and sell one name for $8000 that cost me $10 is that a profit of $7,980? Of course not. This is exceptionally misleading to new domainers that read what you're writing.

Then you didn't read my first year post properly. I joined when listing was free and I had 500ish free listings, I also picked up 500ish domains at $4 thanks to Godaddy promotions. Listing has also been free for the last few months and is currently still free.

I've been very open and honest about my BB domaining, including figures, costs, profits etc, it's all there if you care to read it properly. You are being exceptionally misleading to new domainers by quoting untruths.

 

[London555]

Then you didn't read my first year post properly. I joined when listing was free and I had 500ish free listings, I also picked up 500ish domains at $4 thanks to Godaddy promotions. Listing has also been free for the last few months and is currently still free.

I've been very open and honest about my BB domaining, including figures, costs, profits etc, it's all there if you care to read it properly. You are being exceptionally misleading to new domainers by quoting untruths.

Really? Stating that those 22 domains cost you $1,000 and you sold them for $35,000 is not only misleading but it's nonsense and bullshit.

 

[Michael M]

Really? Stating that those 22 domains cost you $1,000 and you sold them for $35,000 is not only nonsense but bullsh*t.

Actually @JimJammy 's statement is 100% factual. For those 22 names, $1000 was spent, and they were sold for $35,000

If you want her to expand further and do math based on her entire profile's renewal and acquisition cost that is another matter. Most people won't give you their secret sauce or full audit of their profile.

To be honest @JimJammy is one of the most transparent domain sellers we have on this forum....

In virtually every sold post on NPs do people mention the 1000 other domains they are holding and their costs?

In the background we all have different formulas to calculate our success and different strategies. (at least I hope you all do)

Just because you don't agree with someone's strategy - does not mean your strategy is the only right one and that theirs is wrong. As you said you aren't privy to the scope of @JimJammy 's business plan/structure.

 

[JimJammy]

22 domains at approx $10 reg fee, plus $10 renewal (I'm being generous in saying I've had them all for over a year) plus $10 listing fee (which we've already established I've had some free listings but I'm being generous again ) totals $660. So my $1000 was being waaaay overly generous as I'm sure I purchased some of those domains in closeouts.

I've got nothing to hide. I've listed all of my figures and clearly stated that my BB domaining income is only a small proportion of my normal domaining income (something I wouldn't do if I wanted to rah-rah Brandbucket). Brandable domaining is not for everyone. I've put information out there that will enable people to make an informed decision about whether or not brandable domaining might be for them. Some people prefer geo domains, some people prefer target domains, some people prefer chips, some people prefer other extentions. Brandable domaining is just a small and emerging market right now.

Clearly, I'm not doing nearly as well as you since you are so great at domaining. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to share your figures too so we can all learn from you

 

[London555]

Actually @JimJammy 's statement is 100% factual. For those 22 names, $1000 was spent, and they were sold for $35,000

If you want her to expand further and do math based on her entire profile's renewal and acquisition cost that is another matter. Most people won't give you their secret sauce or full audit of their profile.

To be honest @JimJammy is one of the most transparent domain sellers we have on this forum....

In virtually every sold post on NPs do people mention the 1000 other domains they are holding and their costs?

In the background we all have different formulas to calculate our success and different strategies. (at least I hope you all do)

Just because you don't agree with someone's strategy - does not mean your strategy is the only right one and that theirs is wrong. As you said you aren't privy to the scope of @JimJammy 's business plan/structure.

So if as I mentioned I have 5000 names listed on BB and i sell one for $8000 my profit is $7,980? Correct?

 

[London555]

22 domains at approx $10 reg fee, plus $10 renewal (I'm being generous in saying I've had them all for over a year) plus $10 listing fee (which we've already established I've had some free listings but I'm being generous again ) totals $660. So my $1000 was being waaaay overly generous as I'm sure I purchased some of those domains in closeouts.

I've got nothing to hide. I've listed all of my figures and clearly stated that my BB domaining income is only a small proportion of my normal domaining income (something I wouldn't do if I wanted to rah-rah Brandbucket). Brandable domaining is not for everyone. I've put information out there that will enable people to make an informed decision about whether or not brandable domaining might be for them. Some people prefer geo domains, some people prefer target domains, some people prefer chips, some people prefer other extentions. Brandable domaining is just a small and emerging market right now.

Clearly, I'm not doing nearly as well as you since you are so great at domaining. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to share your figures too so we can all learn from you

When did I say you weren't doing as well as we are? I have no idea how you're doing to be honest im just interpreting your stated BB results which are nonsense. Have a nice day.

 

[Michael M]

So if as I mentioned I have 5000 names listed on BB and i sell one for $8000 my profit is $7,980? Correct?

On that one name. On your entire domain profile - no.

If you had 5000 names listed and only one sold I don't think you'd need to do much math to know you are in trouble.

I have repeatedly said everyone needs to do their own math, as everyone has different plans and strategies... I hoped you'd understand that meant there are multiple factors that affects someone's bottom line. All these factors should be considered by the person who is making a business decision, for themselves.

I think I understand that you don't like BB and that is ok. You have stated your reasons/concerns.... What more are you looking to achieve?

 

[JimJammy]

So if as I mentioned I have 5000 names listed on BB and i sell one for $8000 my profit is $7,980? Correct?

It really depends on how you want to work it out. If you calculate your reg fee on that one domain being $10 and listing was $10 then your calculation would be correct.

If you have 5000 names listed on GoDaddy and sell a $10 reg fee one for $8000, would your profit be $7,990? I suspect it would.

*not considering into the calculations the commissions for ease of explanation.